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Guantanamo makes adjustments for Ramadan
AP ^ | Sept. 27, 2006 | Michael Melia

Posted on 09/26/2006 8:00:27 PM PDT by Alouette

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - Muslim detainees at Guantanamo Bay entered Ramadan with traditional sweets, dates and honey — but without a military chaplain to lead them in prayer during Islam's holy month.

Nearly all the alleged al-Qaida and Taliban members held at the detention center in Cuba are observing Ramadan, officials said Tuesday. Meals are offered before dawn and after sunset to accommodate their fasting during daylight hours.

The adjustments for Ramadan, which began Saturday, come as the U.S. prison faces accusations of religious insensitivity.

A court challenge seeking the return of a full-time Muslim chaplain to the base has been filed by one detainee's attorney, who said that regular religious services would help "preserve the sanity" of the detainees.

"I think it would preserve order and discourage these suicides that are happening there," attorney Gaillard Hunt said.

A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment Tuesday on the motion, citing ongoing litigation.

Muslim chaplains — who regularly counseled detainees in the prison's early years — have been assigned to U.S. commands with larger numbers of Islamic service members, said Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand.

"The detainee population generally rejects outside religious guidance," he said.

Detainees meet their religious needs primarily by relying on each other, with cell blocks designating an imam or prayer leader, he said.

Ramadan arrived this year with elevated security following three suicides in June.

A newspaper published for soldiers on the U.S. base ran a front-page article earlier this month stressing Ramadan's significance to Muslims.

Fasting detainees will have a meal before dawn, and a "double portion" meal in the evening to ensure they receive enough nutrition. Medical personnel will monitor their health, Durand said.

Guantanamo does have an Islamic cultural advisor who meets with the detainees to discuss their concerns, and chaplains are available to come in and handle delicate tasks, such as the Islamic funeral prayer for the suicide victims in June, Durand said.

Separately, a Red Cross delegation that began a two-week visit to the Guantanamo prison on Monday has met with base officials and was hoping to get a first glimpse of 14 high-level terror suspects previously locked up in CIA secret prisons.

Simon Schorno, a spokesman for the Red Cross in Washington, said the delegation would interview other detainees as it waits for the newest arrivals, including alleged Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, to accept their offer for a meeting.

U.S. Army Gen. Bantz J. Craddock said last week that the detainees would be made available around Oct. 1.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clubgitmo; gitmo; guantanamo; gwot; ramadan; terrorists; waronterror; wot
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It would be "insensitive" to offer BBQ pork for after the fast, so I think they should be given gefilte fish. I will even donate some jars.


1 posted on 09/26/2006 8:00:28 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 09/26/2006 8:00:53 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 23-28)
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Ramadan-Bomb'athon! Oops! Now Echelon has my IP address again.


3 posted on 09/26/2006 8:02:55 PM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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That's better than the public high schools get. I'd like to see them accomdate Christian kids for Christmas like that. I feel like puking.


4 posted on 09/26/2006 8:03:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BookaT

HAPPY RAMADAMADINGDONG!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 09/26/2006 8:05:51 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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The adjustments for Ramadan, which began Saturday, come as the U.S. prison faces accusations of religious insensitivity.

As with most things dealing with the left and the Muslims, this is galling. There is no more religiously insensitive group than the Muslims. Reality turned on its head again.

6 posted on 09/26/2006 8:06:27 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: metmom

Yeah....and I'd like to see the military running the public schools.....:>)


7 posted on 09/26/2006 8:08:52 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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Interesting concept. LOL, I'm enjoying the mental pictures I get from envisioning that.


8 posted on 09/26/2006 8:10:49 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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9 posted on 09/26/2006 8:12:29 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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Oh Man, I wish they would just one day pull up a boat and start loading these bastards up and sailing their asses to an undisclosed location.

The libs and lawyers for these camel humpers would have a cow!

Where are they going? Why didn't the President tell us in Congress. Why didn't the President seek our wisdom. What did GWB know and when did he know it? Where are they going! AHH!!! THey can't be made to live like the average Sailor in the US Navy! Now that is TORTURE!

Then get the crew of the boat and sink with some good ol' fashion target practice. You know get the water nice and Chummed up. Really trie to work some pigs into the scene but not many pigs swimming in the ocean.


10 posted on 09/26/2006 8:13:18 PM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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"I think it would preserve order and discourage these suicides that are happening there," attorney Gaillard Hunt said.

Happy Ramadan, 450 or so suicides are just what Allah called for (so long as no innocent people are harmed in the process).

Say, Gaillard Hunt, how long have you been an enemy of humanity and how much do you do to aid the terrorists? Inquiring minds want to know.....
11 posted on 09/26/2006 8:13:51 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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Kosher meals should meet the vermin's dietary requirements and should be served plainly marked.


12 posted on 09/26/2006 8:20:28 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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That means it wouldn't be inhumane to withold food during daylight hours?


13 posted on 09/26/2006 8:22:27 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Darn. I was hoping that the inmates were being taken on one-way helicopter rides.


14 posted on 09/26/2006 8:26:20 PM PDT by EricT. (The Democrats have decided it will either be a Democrat led America, or no America at all.)
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I know you don't like this. You told me on another thread "way back when" That you didn't like it.
Well, the point is that some other people found it rather amusing......
So.....
Here goes......

Click the Pic J
Gefilte Fish!

Now.....
On with my opinion.....
I'll start worrying about "their" Ramadan when "they" start acting like real human beings!

Until such time they can put "their Ramadamn" where the Sun don't shine......

In all respect to you, Alouette. If you don't like my post please feel free to ask the "mods" to remove it.
(No problem. I don't hold grudges. After all, I'm not muslime. lol)
J

15 posted on 09/26/2006 8:29:07 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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A court challenge seeking the return of a full-time Muslim chaplain to the base has been filed by one detainee's attorney, who said that regular religious services would help "preserve the sanity" of the detainees.

That would assume they had any before Ramadan.

16 posted on 09/26/2006 8:29:20 PM PDT by JRjr (hMMM?)
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To: goodnesswins
Yeah....and I'd like to see the military running the public schools

You and me both. Whack some discipline into the little bastards.

17 posted on 09/26/2006 8:46:03 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Fiddlstix

> Well, the point is that some other people found it rather amusing......

It *is* a rather clever ditty... and there's not a darn thing wrong with good Kosher food: hard to obtain DownUnder NZ as there are not enough Jews. Kosher food is definitely too good for Terrorists to eat.

On the other hand, I love my German Shepherds, and feed 'em only the best (Eukanuba). It's nutritious, keeps them in good health, with good shiny coats. Too good for Terrorists, true, but they'd only need half a cup for every 25 Kgs lean body weight, once per day, with plenty of clean fresh water.


18 posted on 09/26/2006 9:07:31 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: Alouette

It really irks me that we fall all over ourselves accomodating a pack of sociopaths.


19 posted on 09/26/2006 9:13:00 PM PDT by Thombo2
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......and there's not a darn thing wrong with good Kosher food.....

You Got That Right! I Love Kosher Food! Great Taste! Good For Ya!
&
(And what ails ya)
J

20 posted on 09/26/2006 9:13:45 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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