Why Darwinism Is Doomed

WorldNetDaily ^ | 09/27/2006 | Jonathan Wells

[Al Simmons]

"Yes it is. The Lie: Evolution (Paperback) by Ken Ham (Author)"

This is about on a par with Slick writing a book about 'The Lie'. Like the Toon, Ham's book must be persuasive because he is an expert liar....

[Liberal Classic]

Thank you for bringing some common sense into this thread.

[Al Simmons]

Oh man are your posts dead-on! As I like to say, 'Young-earth creationists' are putting God in a box.

[Al Simmons]

"Are Darwinism and Creationism mutually exclusive? Why couldn't Darwinism be God's mechanism? "

No and yes. Unless you want to put God in a box and deny Him the power that you are too scared to understand...

[RobRoy]

>>Using Scripture in a discussion about Science is the same as using Scripture in a discussion about auto repair.<<

Generally speaking, I agree with the premise of your first sentence, but it does not apply here. This is not a discussion of science. It is a discussion of Darwinism.

[razzle]

"Now if you want to have and actual discussion"

I wouldn't discuss dog crap with you.

[Last Visible Dog]

His intention to defame evolution is undeniable...

His intentions are irrelevant to the validity of his positions. Like I said - why don't you take on his positions rather than attack him personally?

[BrandtMichaels]

How is taking the Bible literally to be considered 'putting God in a box'? For me it's simply - God said it, I believe it, that settles it.

The corollary to your argument is that God has lied to you - yet the Bible clearly states God is incapable of sin and can not tolerate it in his Holy Presence. Don't bother replying - I can guess that your going to tell me Genesis is mostly myth and fable and recorded by mere man therefore full of error and mis-interpreted statements. Hardly!!!

Jesus studied the Bible and affirmed the old testament - Please please please try digging a little deeper into your faith rather than relying on worldly experts and their opinions.

[Last Visible Dog]

I didn't decide what his motive are, I just questioned what where he got his degree from

If you read the article you would know where he got his Ph.D's

Apparently you don't find that a fair question.

It is a fair question but the answer can be found in the article - you should read the article before you add comments.

[RogueIsland]

IN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE FACT-NOT ONE- to support darwinism.

Top ten ignorant post of the day placemarker.

[Last Visible Dog]

Where have I attacked him personally?

You jumped into a thread I was having with another person (which is fine) - looks like you may have not attacked Wells personally - but you certainly are not trying to address any of the positions in the article.

[Last Visible Dog]

I already did in my firstst ppost to htis thread at #237. That's why I wrote the little ditty.

You really are funny

Yeah, a cute little song is proof Wells is lying.

[atlaw]

I don't know how many posters are actually scientists or academics, but for those who ARE, ignorance regarding what ID really IS is unforgivable.

Which opens the door for you to tell us all "what ID really IS." Have at it.

[dashing doofus]

Yes. They have never taken any course in physical anthropology, which clearly shows fossil and skeletal evidence that evolution is a scientific fact.

And, none of this is incompatible with believing in God. It IS incompatible with fundamentalists, who believe the LITERAL TRUTH of the Old Testament, however.

[Al Simmons]

Well, I guess then that Pope JP The Great was a "wordly expert" who believed that "God has lied to you" according to your last post...

http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02tc.htm

[Last Visible Dog]

IN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE FACT-NOT ONE- to support darwinism.

Top ten ignorant post of the day placemarker.

I agree - but we have more entries today - this one is from an Evo:

Evo:the content of his studies is irrelevant to what motivated him to pursue that study

[dashing doofus]

Exactly PING.

[BrandtMichaels]

Yes imho.

BTW I do think I spelled worldly correctly both times as if a minor spelling error invalidates a whole post anyways...

[Coyoteman]

IN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE FACT-NOT ONE- to support darwinism.

So what's this, chopped liver?

(Note its position in the chart which follows; hint--in the upper center):

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Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33

Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

[Stultis]

So then why isn't the mudskipper a "found" link? Doesn't it appear to be some sort of transition between a fish and amphibian or land reptile?

No. The mudskipper does NOT so appear. It has fins, not feet. It has none of the amphibian skull anatomy of Tiktaalik or other genuine transitional candidates. Etc. And of course as a living creature, with no indication of a long fossil history, the mudskipper is not properly positioned in time to be a transitional, even ignoring its anatomical unsuitability.