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Witness Tells Court About Gang Rape in MS-13 Trial
washingtonpost.com ^ | September 29, 2006 | Ruben Castaneda

Posted on 09/29/2006 11:59:09 AM PDT by Boston Blackie

The petite young woman was a 16-year-old Laurel High School student three years ago when she decided to skip classes one day to join two other girls at a party at a Hyattsville apartment.

At the party, she said, Oscar Ramos "Casper" Velasquez took her into a bedroom, where he kissed her and told her that if she didn't have sex with him, as many as 15 other teenagers and young men at the gathering would have sex with her.

When she resisted, two more young men entered the room, the woman told jurors yesterday in federal court. One man threw her on the bed and choked her, the other held down her arms and "Oscar pulled out a gun," she testified.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; marasalvatrucha; ms13

1 posted on 09/29/2006 11:59:11 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

This MS 13 gang is infilitrating our country at an alarming rate, and if we dont get a handle on immigration real soon, it will be this going on in every neighborhood.


2 posted on 09/29/2006 12:03:51 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Boston Blackie

Illegal Immigrants

-- Just doing the jobs that Americans won't do.


3 posted on 09/29/2006 12:07:24 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Darteaus94025

Rapists should be raped in the way they raped their victims .... THEN thrown in jail.


4 posted on 09/29/2006 12:10:58 PM PDT by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: Boston Blackie

No reason to enforce our borders. These MS-13 folks will make great citizens.


5 posted on 09/29/2006 12:14:27 PM PDT by He'sComingBack!
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To: knarf

or we could just shoot them. but that's just me.


6 posted on 09/29/2006 12:15:21 PM PDT by Radio_Silence
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To: Radio_Silence
or we could just shoot them. but that's just me.

Only after letting the father of the girl have his turn with each of them alone and unarmed.

7 posted on 09/29/2006 12:20:50 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Boston Blackie

Why can't we get the death penalty for rape? This is not a rhetorical question. It astounds me that that rapists are allowed to remain alive, especially those who sexually abuse small children.


8 posted on 09/29/2006 12:27:39 PM PDT by jla
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To: JoanneSD

"This MS 13 gang is infilitrating our country at an alarming rate, and if we dont get a handle on immigration real soon, it will be this going on in every neighborhood."

You have a problem with 'diversity?'

yeah, I'm being sarcastic. Here, the MS 13's cut off the hands of a 15 year old victim.


9 posted on 09/29/2006 12:29:47 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: He'sComingBack!

I would hope they'll take full advantage of the In-State Tuition rate the Gov. Deval Patrick will bestow upon them.


10 posted on 09/29/2006 12:35:58 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy

It the Gansta way.......and our kids love it...Gangsta rap..gangsta clothes...gangsta drugs...sorry


11 posted on 09/29/2006 12:49:08 PM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: Boston Blackie
who are to be tried under the federal RICO law

This approach to our gang problem is relatively recent...and most welcome.
12 posted on 09/29/2006 1:05:05 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: JoanneSD

Just gang-raping the young girls no American would gang-rape...

Family values don't stop at the border, doncha know?

At least that's what George Bush tells me...


13 posted on 09/29/2006 1:13:21 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Boston Blackie

Meanwhile, my Maryland Congressman (Van Hollen)and most of the rest of the Maryland contingent voted AGAINST making it easier to deport gangbangers. The rights of illegal aliens are more important to them than the safety of Maryland citizens.


14 posted on 09/29/2006 1:32:19 PM PDT by AppleButter
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To: JoanneSD; Boston Blackie; All

Mexican drug gangs take root in S. Oregon Report - Drug trafficking groups, fed by huge marijuana gardens, jump 44 percent last year

Thursday, September 28, 2006

BRYAN DENSON The Oregonian
http://www.oregonlive.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news/1159457103132430.xml?oregonian?lcfp&coll=7

Armed Mexican drug gangs have made Southern Oregon's mountains their garden, cultivating tens of thousands of high-grade marijuana plants and -- as harvest time approaches -- setting the stage for potential violence.

In recent growing seasons, the gangs have put illegal immigrants to work as gardeners in remote patches of Jackson, Josephine and Douglas counties, a verdant region known globally for its high-grade cannabis, according to police agencies now pulling up the illegal plants.

The growth in Mexican drug gangs in Oregon helped to drive a 44 percent increase in identified drug trafficking organizations between 2004 and 2005, according to the state Department of Justice's first comprehensive report on organized crime in Oregon.

The report notes that Oregon has been spared the kind of Mafia organizations and rampant public corruption reported elsewhere in the nation. But the state is thick with homegrown gangs -- including bikers, street thugs and convicts -- and criminal networks with tentacles in Asia and former republics of the Soviet Union, the 43-page document says.

The attorney general's report notes that criminal drug gangs cross many jurisdictions, forcing underfunded police agencies and a diminishing number of multi-agency task forces to be creative in finding and prosecuting leaders.

"Traditional law enforcement techniques don't always work to stop organized crime," said Steven Briggs, chief counsel of the attorney general's criminal justice division. "Because if you arrest an individual, the organization will continue to commit crime."

More than 120 drug gangs have been identified in the state, 46 of them with roots in Mexico, according to the report, obtained by The Oregonian and set for public release today.

The increase in Mexican drug gangs came as no surprise to sheriff's departments across southwestern Oregon, which find themselves hip deep in prosecutions of low-level growers getting ready to harvest plants for their bosses before the first frost.

"Historically there's been an enormous flow of methamphetamine that's largely controlled by Mexican cartels," said Douglas County Sheriff Chris Brown. "But the proliferation of the marijuana grows is really kind of a new trend for us. We first detected those in Oregon just a few years ago. Now we're finding more and more each year." -snip


15 posted on 09/29/2006 1:32:54 PM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

PING


16 posted on 09/29/2006 1:36:12 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: All
"decided to skip classes one day to join two other girls at a party at a Hyattsville apartment."

Sometimes when you go looking for trouble, you find it. Not saying she deserved to be raped, but she was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people by choice, not by chance.

If you play in the street during rush hour, don't be surprised when you get run over.
17 posted on 09/29/2006 1:39:50 PM PDT by texan75010
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To: jla

While i like the idea of death penalty for rape, i think that society at large will never accept death penalty unless you kill someone(or treason).

I say give them life and put them in a maximum security prison where somone will make them their female dog.


18 posted on 09/29/2006 1:40:22 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: All

The next time we get an article where someone gets arrested for marijuana possession, I hope those who regularly whine, "But, it was only a little marijuana..." think about this article. Yes, it's only a little marijuana, but buying it and using it supports these gangs of sub-human murdering, raping garbage.


19 posted on 09/29/2006 1:48:35 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: Elyse

it only supports gangs because it's illegal, how many people bought booze from Capone's gangsters after prohibition ended?


20 posted on 09/29/2006 1:52:20 PM PDT by houston1
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To: houston1
it only supports gangs because it's illegal

I'm sorry, but that sure is a half-assed excuse for breaking the law and supporting murderers and rapists.

21 posted on 09/29/2006 1:56:30 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: SDGOP
i think that society at large will never accept death penalty unless you kill someone

If we ever got a press that was more concerned with victims than persp and did story after story of the harm these folks did to kids, women, etc. most would not only support execution for such crimes they'd want it aired on cable during prime time pay per view.
22 posted on 09/29/2006 1:58:32 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Darteaus94025

From the article, the victim is a Salvadoran immigrant as well. This gang is a cancer; and even calling them a gang is a joke.


23 posted on 09/29/2006 1:59:58 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: houston1

Bad drugs should be banned, and I'll tell you why. Anyone who sells any of that junk to my young 'uns, is in for it. The legal authorities better get to him first.

The purpose of a justice system is to prevent people like me from taking the law into our own hands. If you eliminate the laws, or their adequate enforcement, revenge is the only rule.

Are you sure that you want that?


24 posted on 09/29/2006 2:07:11 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: AppleButter
"The rights of illegal aliens Democrats in the Larval Stage are more important to them than the safety of Maryland citizens."

There, all fixed for truth in Labelling.

25 posted on 09/29/2006 2:09:25 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon
Democrats in the Larval Stage

LOL!!!

26 posted on 09/29/2006 2:15:06 PM PDT by AppleButter
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To: docbnj

the poster I was responding to referenced pot, that's what I was responding to, no one's ever died from doing it, except bags of doritos. If you take away the illegality, the profit motive for the gangs would disappear as it did for the moonshine runners once booze was legal


27 posted on 09/29/2006 2:21:01 PM PDT by houston1
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To: SDGOP
While i like the idea of death penalty for rape, i think that society at large will never accept death penalty unless you kill someone(or treason).

Then society is broken.

28 posted on 09/29/2006 2:22:01 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: houston1

They're criminals, period. They'd find some other illegal activity to make the big money.


29 posted on 09/29/2006 2:26:11 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: docbnj

and I don't think underage kids should be able to get it, just adults, which I think would be easier to control if it were legal also, right now the only proof of age you need to buy it are a couple of twenty dollar bills


30 posted on 09/29/2006 2:26:35 PM PDT by houston1
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To: jla

In fact, traditionally under the common law, the three crimes that got the death penalty were murder, kidnapping, and rape.

Doesn't say much about men today that we can't come up with the stones to deep six most of these creeps. You know, them old fables about protecting our women and children...


31 posted on 09/29/2006 2:42:43 PM PDT by djf (Its time for all patriotic Americans to get a new pet --- a pet PIG!!)
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To: Centurion2000

Well, the tricky part is,what happens if a girl screams rape and it legitimately isn't true? That's why i think life in jail without parole is a good alternative. I mean, don't get me wrong, rape is a horrible crime and anyone who does it shoudl be locked away forever, but how often do you see girls who regret doing something then scream rape, or scream it to get even with a guy? Hell, this girl i know was a bit .. shall we say loose. She would get drunk, sleep with a guy, then the next morning she'd regret it and scream rape.


32 posted on 09/29/2006 3:37:39 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Boston Blackie

MS-13 bump


33 posted on 09/29/2006 4:09:22 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: knarf

Punishment should always be WORSE than the crime try to partially even out the part where the victim didn't DESERVE what he/she got.


34 posted on 09/29/2006 4:11:37 PM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: bannie

Good point .. I agree.


35 posted on 09/29/2006 4:14:14 PM PDT by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


36 posted on 09/29/2006 4:35:17 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: docbnj

I think we should keep doing what we're doing. After all, it's working so well.


37 posted on 09/29/2006 4:43:17 PM PDT by osideplanner
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To: Darteaus94025
Like minds, even worse than this story, if you can imagine anything worse, is that these(ms13) are the terrorists chauffeurs of choice to guide them across the border.

Not being able to count on the feds for anything but minimal support days before elections, this entire immigration debacle is going to shake out "locally".

Ten years from now there will be sanctuary cities all over the country. There will also be cities that value their way of life and will have created sufficient law enforcement to keep the illegals out of their towns.

Along with local law enforcement carrying out the duties of the feds there will be local laws on the books that prevent illegals from renting homes and employers from hiring their sorry asses.IN addition local welfare and hospitals will become for locals only by law.(local) It's our only solution unfortunately, waiting on the feds to do the entire job will become far to costly.700 miles of fenicing is nice and a good start but the border is 2,000 miles long. bottom line there will be super safe cities and place like LA in which to live, people will be voting with their feet once again.

38 posted on 09/29/2006 5:05:35 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Boston Blackie

BUMP


39 posted on 09/29/2006 8:12:17 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: docbnj

"Anyone who sells any of that junk to my young 'uns, is in for it."

Are you sure you want to go there? ANYONE who sells drugs to your kids does so for one reason and one reason ONLY: Because they came to him LOOKING for drugs. So who you gonna off? The dealer who was selling only to those who came to him; your kids for WANTING the dope; or the bad PARENT who failed to instill any sort of values and morality into his kids in the FIRST place? Since you claim them as yours, guess who the failure of a parent is?

BTW, anti-WOsD as I am, I did manage to instill in my son sufficient values that he has never, to my knowledge, used (recreationally) any drug apart from alcohol, and that in moderation.


40 posted on 09/29/2006 8:43:18 PM PDT by dcwusmc (The government is supposed to fit the Constitution, NOT the Constitution fit the government!)
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To: houston1
and I don't think underage kids should be able to get it, just adults

Yes, there certainly aren't enough legal mind altering drugs for adults. We need to legalize some more.

41 posted on 09/29/2006 8:47:49 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: houston1
no one's ever died from doing it, except bags of doritos

No one has ever died from doing it? Do I need to google some DUI statistics for you? Or do you seriously believe that pot does not impair a persons mental and physical capacities?

42 posted on 09/29/2006 8:54:55 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: dcwusmc
My son knows in his bones what the consequences will be if I or Mrs. L catch him using illegal substances.

I'm as anti-WO(s)D as anyone but I will not I repeat will not tolerate him poisoning his body and mind with that crap.

The only thing that will beat him to the hospital will be the headlights of the ambulance carrying him.

L

43 posted on 09/29/2006 8:58:32 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: Boston Blackie

Hey, boston blackie! How ya doin?

Best regards,

SJB


44 posted on 09/29/2006 9:03:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: Boston Blackie

MS is meanness personified; this kind of event, a garden variety gang rape, is barely impish mischief to them.


45 posted on 09/29/2006 9:54:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Boston Blackie
During nearly three hours on the witness stand, the woman, a Salvadoran immigrant, maintained her poise as she testified through a translator. She did not appear to look at Velasquez, seated about 20 feet away.

Dollar to a donut she's illegal. I guess the illegal gang members are raping the illegals Americans won't rape. This is a good example of why legal immigrants should be against illegal immigration. They've gone the legal route to escape this sort of violence only to have it follow them through illegal immigration.

46 posted on 09/30/2006 2:09:51 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: jla
Why can't we get the death penalty for rape? This is not a rhetorical question. It astounds me that that rapists are allowed to remain alive, especially those who sexually abuse small children.

Then...there would be no deterrent not to kill the rape victim. Why would the rapist let a potential witness live?

47 posted on 09/30/2006 2:23:08 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Given their motto, and the mafia type group imposed silence required of it's members, it would appear that any and all members could be considered as a party to all crimes committed by MS-13.

Thus, one could make a case that any identified member could be tried under RICO, convicted, and executed.


48 posted on 09/30/2006 6:13:28 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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