G.O.P. Leaders Knew in Late ’05 of E-Mail

new york times ^ | 10/1/06 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

The 'leadership' is bankrupt.

[Sid Spinach]

Well, those that "looked the other way" pretty much are going to be boxed in.

Look for them to resign, or face some serious trouble themselves, on ethics grounds, not to mention politically.

Psalm 1 is a good place for people in office to read.
If people in office stick to that Psalm, they won't ever get burned.

[marajade]

Such drama

[NRA2BFree]

Best enjoyed with a large serving of Crow for all those who defended this pervert.

Which pervert? I see two. LOL!!

[JRochelle]

No one saw the disgusting IM's. Just the emails.

Huge differance in the two.

[Phsstpok]

Consider the source (New York Times) before you swallow the spin of what they "knew" or when they "knew" anything.

This smacks too much of a planned operation to me. Hearing about something is far removed from knowing that it's true. Don't be stampeded. There are NO facts in evidence that can be tested. No way to judge the motives or reliability of witnesses (if any).

Foley's guilt is not even proved at this time, only implied (strongly) by his own action in resigning and the second hand information being passed on, almost totally anonymously, by the ever reliable drive by media.  Why do we suddenly accept anything they say as gospel because it fits into a salacious pattern? 

I know this may bother some, but I have this nagging thing I call a principle, I actually believe in "innocent until proved guilty," particularly when dealing with accusations against Republicans in the New York Times.  I'm just cynical that way. 

[Sid Spinach]

Someone told me he was married.

My error, I didn't check.

Not much of him getting arried now.
Only Wacko Jacko can marry for cover, and have people buy it...well...liberal people buy it...

[conservative in nyc]

While the e-mails were very creepy, there was nothing sexually explicit in them. Knowing what we know now, it's easy to say GOP leadership should have removed him from office sooner. But we didn't know about the disgusting IMs until yesterday when ABC News broke the story.

No one is defending Foley here. He should have resigned, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[nj26]

First, he was emailing a boy in Florida who was 16. Age of consent in Florida is 18.

Second, when you see one cockroach, there are typically a few hundred behind the wall. I am sure we will be hearing a lot more about Mr. Foley's perversions.

[ExpatCanuck]

He resigned, isn't that enough?

Hypothetical situation - if you knew your neighbor was trying to seduce a child and did nothing about it and eventually they got caught, are you completely absolved of any responsibility?

[Sir Gawain]

This man has damaged the GOP big time with his behavior. This is all a result of him. And now it seems that the leadership made a mistake based on the greed of staying in power. They should have booted him as soon as they found out. I don't feel any sympathy for any of them. Let the circus begin.

[marajade]

Where was Foley when he sent the IMs?

[metesky]

I never said anything about him. Maybe you should learn to read for comprehension, eh?

[marajade]

It depends on the law.

[msnimje]

And Nancy Pelosi knew about William Jefferson when?

[Sid Spinach]

I'm in Fla.

Soliciting sex with a kid in this state, is a felony.

[ExpatCanuck]

there was nothing sexually explicit in them.

There's nothing sexual about asking a 16 year boy if he is horny, or telling him that you have a hard-on thinking about him???? Have you actually read any of the transcripts of the emails?

[marajade]

"And Nancy Pelosi knew about William Jefferson when?"

Right on.

[marajade]

Did he solicit sex? All I read was about masturbation.

[conservative in nyc]

You don't find it a bit odd for a 50 year old man to be asking for photos of a 16 year old boy? Particularly if you already knew that man was gay?

Creepy? Yes. Odd? Yes - but apparently Congressmen sometimes ask for pictures of pages in order to remember who they are in case they are asked for a recommendation. Is it criminal in and of itself? Probably not. It's difficult enough to remove a sitting Congressman for doing something that is a crime, let alone something that is not.