Fascists? I don't see any fascists...
Isn't that how disinformation is supposed to work?
I think the fundamental problem with the "fascist" label is that it suggests that the totalitarian elements of the ideology were artificially grafted onto Islam from evil Europeans, rather than being an organic outgrowth of the extreme Wahabi sect. Hence, the term "Islamic Fundamentalism" is more apropos.
If it quacks like an Islamo-Fascist...
I think "Islamofascist" sums them up nicely. "Totalitarian" would be more precise, but not everyone knows what it means.
Garbage. Nationalism is right there, only the "nation" group is defined as umma - i.e. in religious rather than in genetic terms. Thus this difference is illusory. Tribalism and clannishness are there as well, of course. As for economical basis - it is irrelevant from the beginning, for one needs to look not at marxian economics, but at the ideology and sociology of the islamic baboonery. The term islamofascism is absolutely appropriate.
The point brought across to me is something has to be used to title these people since "murderous, fanatical, demented, toter's of an evil agenda worshipers" isn't politically correct to be used as a label.
islamo fascists, islamo fascists, islamo fascists, islamo fascists, islamo fascists.....
I disagree with this article.
Islamofascism is a very fitting term for these terrorists, for it describes to a T exactly what they are trying to create throughout the world.
The author's argument would hold if we referred to them as "Islamonazis", but as long as we're nitpicking about terms, consider this: there are significant differences between Fascism and Nazism, particularly when it comes to matters of race.
Fascism is rule through fear, while the Nazis used fear and invoked a sort of racial myth upon which they based their movement. Thus, the fact that the Islamicists are not quite so focused upon racial matters does not mean they don't fit the "Fascist" mold of which they are accused of holding, merely that they do not fit a "Nazi" mold per se.
So let's keep calling them what they are: Islamofascists. They really do deserve the title.
To soften the label would be to turn a blind eye to the evil we now face.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
So let's see now. We have militant jihadism, political jihadism, cultural jihadism.
It's time we call it was it is. Islam.
I have never liked the Islamofascist label as Islam is a political ideology wrapped in religion. It is theocratic rule.
Michael Savage started the term Islamofascism on his radio show and it got some legs among conservatives. I found that Islamonazism was more descriptive (and it has since been adopted by Michael Medved on his radio show and he makes the same distinction).
Islamonazism is more appropriate as the extremists were deal with DID partner with Hitler and Nazi Germany. The savagery of their attacks on men, women, and children are comparable to Nazi attrocities. They circulate the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. They deny the Holocaust. They circulate stories of Christian blood used in matzoh. It is another supremacist ideology that sees everyone else as "subhuman" (kufir; with Jews cited as the offspring of pigs and monkeys). Muslim supremacists see themselves as the new master race.
More apropriate terms might be "Islamic supremacists" and "Islamic imperialists". They do strive to establish a western capital for Islam as they did before in Spain. Islam has concepts like "Islamic territory" (which is where kufir seized in jihad must be taken before they can be divided up as slaves). And Imam say that while slavery may be an unpopular concept among the west, the laws of Mohammed cannot be changed by the worldview of man. The Imam even say that man is not to question the wisdom of Islam's teachings so there will never be a reformation movement.
It is ass-backward and foolish for the left to decry President Bush as a man trying to establish theocratic rule when he clearly fights those who have already established theocratic rule. The spineless crapweasels on the Left need to denounce the Islamic Imperialists. Then again, Communists in America had no problem with Hitler or German or Italian Fascism until Hitler betrayed their beloved Stalin.
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However, as an ideological movement Islamism does indeed share a wide range of commonality with fascism. Race has little to do with it - substitute Master Religion for Master Race and it's a close fit. There is the totalitarian aspect - one need not substitite Caliph for State, the Caliph is the State. There is the utopian aspiration that must be fed by conquest. There is the fanaticism, the intolerance, the polarization. There is the permanent state of anger, the violence, the murder. In short, the similarities are legion.
I realize that in this age of relentless hermeneutics that such labels are given a significance that is larger than the more skeptical among us think proper. But it seems to me less important what we call it than what we do about it.
Okay.
Islamo-boy scouts? ... Islamo-cub scouts? ... Islamo-brownies? (No, we can't use that. Someone would call it racial.)
Islamo-not nice people? ... Islamo-islamists?
Islamo-targets of opportunity?
Islamo-fascists works pretty well for me.
I’ve read about the alliance between Adolf Hitler and Muslim Arab leaders in World War II, and seen still photographs, but this is the first time I’ve seen actual video of Hitler meeting with the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini—Yasser Arafat’s alleged uncle. From a German TV documentary, with English subtitles. (Hat tip: Justify This, who also created the Azzam Tamimi “shrieking jihad” video.) link: 142 comments
TOTALLY DEVASTATING.
Shows that modern Islamism and the Palestinian movement are the DIRECT descendent of Nazism. More connections here:
Found your post and link to vid at YouTube:
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism
Lot's of Key Nazi's photoed with Husseini and his "Hanzar Nazi/Muslim troops"
A good poster showing Nazi salutes then and now.
Hezbollah's Nazi roots (the left's common ground with Islamofascism)
Fascists? I don't see any fascists...
Islamofascists= Islam
sounds right to me
Until someone comes up with a more unflattering label, I'm sticking with "Islamofascists."
Calling them "jihadists" can't be regarded as unflattering. That's what they call themselves.