Posted on 10/01/2006 10:00:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker
I no longer accept that we are only at war with Islamic fascists or Islamic Fundamentalists or whatever the heck we’re calling them this week. I believe that we in the West are at war with Islam, period.
I have heard any number of politicians, up to and including President Bush, claim, contrary to all reason and evidence, that Islam is a religion of peace. If you buy that load of malarkey, I’ve got a Brooklyn mosque I’d like to sell you.
This is the religion that was founded by the violence-prone Mohammed fourteen hundred years ago. It was he who established the practice of converting at the point of a sword; a short while ago, two journalists kidnapped by his followers were converted at the barrel of a gun. In 14 centuries, it seems only the technology has changed.
I have read that the current crop of terrorists and butchers only represent about ten percent of the world’s 1.2 billion Muslims. I don’t know how they came by that figure, but that would still add up to 120 million cut-throats and fellow travelers. That figure is far greater than the number of Germans who were even alive when Hitler and his pagan hordes were marching across Europe, and far greater than the number of Russians who were Communist Party members during Stalin’s reign of terror.
I have heard well-meaning people claim that, however we might feel about Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and the various tyrants heading up Syria, Iran and the rest of the Middle East, our own American Muslims are a breed apart. Sorry, but I don’t buy it. We’re all aware that long after their co-religionists attacked the U.S.S. Cole, blew up our embassies and attacked a Marine base, and murdered 3,000 innocent people on 9/11, all in the name of Allah, these peace lovers were wiring contributions to our sworn enemies.
Moreover, we know that young American Muslims are not lining up to join our armed services and thus prove that their loyalty to this nation takes precedence over their religion.
In 1943, the 442nd Regimental Combat Team was formed. It consisted of young Japanese-American men. In spite of the fact that the Nisei faced widespread prejudice in America, and in spite of the fact that their own families had been imprisoned by the federal government at Manzanar and various other concentration camps, these volunteers became the most decorated combat unit of its size during World War II. It was thanks to their sacrificial efforts that over 200 members of the 36th Texas Division, the so-called Lost Division, were rescued from certain slaughter at the hands of the Germans. It was during this battle in France’s Vosges mountains that Second Lt. Daniel K. Inouye, later to be elected to the U.S. Senate, lost his right arm and earned the Congressional Medal of Honor. Astonishingly, his was only one of 21 such medals won by the relatively small group. The unit became legendary, known as the “Go for Broke” guys who fought for their country and their honor, collecting nearly 10,000 Purple Hearts and a nation’s gratitude along the way.
On the other hand, what do we hear from America’s Muslims? Silence when it comes to military service, bellyaching when it comes to ridiculous claims of racial profiling.
Quite honestly, I suspect that the only way we could get the Koran crowd to go fight in the Middle East is if the United States declared war on Israel!
One way that would make your scenario play out however would be if all those peak oil estimates (which I don't actually agree with) were to play out, and we simply use it all up. That would put us and our technology at a competitive advantage, and they could all go back to selling each other camels and rugs.
To fight this is one of Bush's strategies - to eventually tip the Muslim frame of mind to the point where they begin to doubt. When enough of them start believing "Allah is not with them [the terrorists]," it will be the beginning of their end.
Great idea. We can take a survey by handing out these flyers.
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Jihadist Reduction Program
Are you planning on attacking the citizens, infrastructure, personal or government property of the United States of America, either within its territorial boundaries or abroad, with the intent to cause death, injury, destruction, or mass casualties? (Circle one)
Yes
No
Maybe
If you answered "Yes" or "Mabye", please write your name, address, date of birth, and a good daytime telephone number below.
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Actually, you are spot on...good on you. The two words are related and the Palestinians of today are little different from the murderous Philistines of three millenia ago. The same enmity. The same violence. The same spiritual driving ha-satan.
Agreed we do not need to stain our hands with genocide. That would make us no better than they are. But what we do need to do is contain them. Keep them out of our country, send the ones who are here home, and encourage other Western nations to do the same. Contain them, make them stay in their home countries and do not allow them to infect us. They want to live in the freedom and prosperity of our countries, but they don't have a clue how to live with us in peace and want to destroy the very societies they migrated to. So they can stay home.
The other path: The Economic Answer to Terrorism, de soto
Addresses South American Marxist terrorism but might be relevant to the islamic problem.
For general interest: The mystery of capital, de soto
I don't think that they think to themselves, or discuss among themselves, hey, let's move to America, or Britain, because you know, I'd like to be more free. That would presume they come here and become gainfully employed and start accumulating wealth. That is not what happens.
Those who have come here or gone to Britain and become the most vocal with their virulent hatred agitating for violence while speaking pubicly to large groups of muslims, THEY ARE ON THE DOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And far as I know they still are. Why. Why does the state subsidize nests of radical islam...see the French with their high rise ghettos of segregated muslims on public assistance, the ones that rioted a few months back. That's not freedom. That's not prosperity. As there is a blood supply to the cancerous tumor that eventually metastasizes and kills the patient, welfare and the socialism that supports it is the supply of nourishment to the cancerous tumors of insular islam existing in these ghettos that will result in the death of the patient, the west. Some cancers are treated by cutting off the blood supply to the tumor. The west must, Must, MUST eliminate welfare and relief for these muslims so they can either go to work and join the real world, or leave. And we might want to rethink welfare for the white and the black natives as well, it does them no more good than it does the muslims.
I know christians who don't read the bible, but claim to be christians. I work here with muslims who will tell you they are muslims, but they drink, smoke, party, date,behave just like westerners, never a word about jihad. They are educated, and products of the west. They don't pray 5 times a day either. And seldom do they open a koran, and if they do it's a reading, in one ear and out the other. Like mass in latin.
Funny thing about religion, if you grow up with your parents telling you that you are [fill in the blank], then [fill in the blank] is what you are going to feel you are for the rest of your life. It is also very possible you may not know much about the religion of [fill in the blank], and get all your guidance from the surrounding prevailing culture and mores, and not from the main figure of the religion of [fill in the blank]. And if everyone else in the religion of [fill in the blank] goes berserko and blows up the planet, you will wonder what is wrong with those wackos but you will still feel you have the identity of [fill in the blank]. It is just how the mind works. If they can't tell you they are muslim, then they will be at a loss to tell you what they are because they are not christian, not jewish, not atheist, not agnostic, so it puts them in a very uncomfortable position. They don't want to be nothing after they were told as children that they are muslim children.
We recognize individual responsibility in this country, we abhor group rights and group responsibility. The minority western muslims who are not in the news are neither individually nor group responsible for the vast majority uneducated backward Eastern barbarian muslims, nor should they be. But we should be damn careful who we let in this country and upon the least suspicion that an entrant applicant is going to be a "tough nut" regarding the west, deny deny deny. And expel those who are here now and have not assimilated and are engaged in nefarious activities. And for God's sake, stop the socialism that is enabling disaffected poor people of any or no religion who cannot connect with productive society.
I agree with you 100 percent. The come to our societies as parasites, and to behave in ways their societies would not allow.
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
The Achille Lauro passenger in the wheelchair was an American Jew. These Muslim's hatred of the Jews (and Americans - the entire Judeo/Christian ethic) is rabid and defies just about all logic - excepting the logic of Islam's bottom line of hatred of Christ and the lineage that produced Him and the country that was founded on the Judeo/Christian ethic. Support your local church, be thankful it's there as a standard against the ubiquitous infernal mosques on every street corner blasting out their "waah-waah-waah's" five times a day on loudspeakers.
"When the enemy shall come in like a flood, He shall throw up a standard against him."
Short of killing all the Muslims, I think the only solution is to seize the oil fields. Then let the Muslims starve or work. The terrorists that we have been mostly dealing with are rich well educated Muslims.
Stop the money flow and end terrorism.
Well...
My loins have been girded for years...I'm good to go...
But it's starting to chafe...
Well, come on over!
Target-rich environment right outside the front door. ;-)
You would know about that better than most!
Let me say that you have stated the situation about as well as (though not at all pc) I've ever seen it stated. The problem here in the West is that many people (esp. the elites) are not willing to look reality square in its often very ugly face. They would rather turn away and pretend reality is something other than what it actually is. Hence, they come up with idiotic notions, such as "socialism" and "liberalism," which are nothing more than flights into fantasy. This is why I would say the basic difference between the Left and Conservatives is that the Left ignores or distorts reality, while a Conservative desires that his thinking conforms to reality. The reality is that Islam has been at war with every other ideology since its inception.
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