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To: MadIvan

Andy Card may very well have been George W. Bush's biggest mistake as president.


3 posted on 10/01/2006 11:54:19 PM PDT by msnimje (Seriously, if it REALLY were a religion of PEACE, would they have to label it as such?)
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To: msnimje

No, Rove is. Trying to peddle pro illegal immigration. It backfired big time. Rumsfeld is a jewel!


5 posted on 10/02/2006 12:01:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: msnimje
Andy Card may very well have been George W. Bush's biggest mistake as president.

Between Card, Powell, and Wolfwitz it is hard to decide. History will not be kind to any of them.

13 posted on 10/02/2006 12:33:07 AM PDT by thomaswest (Reality always wins in the end.)
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To: msnimje
Andy Card may very well have been George W. Bush's biggest mistake as president.

No actually Rummy was. Who was Gerald R. Ford's Sec of Defense who started us into the hollow Carter Military? Figure that one out and you'll understand why. The military was mismanaged and in trouble before Carter took over. Granted Carter did nothing about it either until the Iranian Crisis. But then again Carter didn't have carriers Flunk critical readiness evaluations either. When called upon we got underway. The only reason some underway time was lost wasn't due to the material condition of the ships but rather the fuel crisis of that time. Believe me the Inspectors who did the readiness evaluations back then were Top Notch. You passed because you earned it but the Navy made sure you passed it to start with.

There were problems a plenty including manpower shortages and in the 1976-79 desertion was a big problem. But the high desertion numbers started under Rummy in what became the walk away and get a quick Discharge military. There's quite a few from that area walking around with General Discharges from all branches of service. But nobody ask for proof of Honorable Discharge anymore. 31 days AWOL, turn yourself in at another command, and await a quickie Court Martial and a ticket out or sometimes the Commanding Officer just did Admin Discharges. As bad as Carter was a POTUS at least he finally stopped that and made persons do their contracted obligation. Navy reform also began under Carter but I think it had much more to do with who was Secretary of the Navy than Carter. By mid 1980 things were turning around and the Navy was returning to a more traditional posture.

17 posted on 10/02/2006 2:50:59 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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