Posted on 10/02/2006 1:03:08 PM PDT by Republicain
A teenager was stabbed when hundreds of people became involved in a battle on the streets of Preston. Trouble centred on the Jamea Masjid mosque in Clarendon Street, Avenham, for more than four hours last night (Sunday) and led to a massive policing operation.
Preston's police chief said the problems were triggered by local youths throwing stones at cars belonging to people attending the mosque.
This sparked a response from around 200 people inside the mosque who came out to defend those under attack.
It resulted in one 16-year-old Asian youth being stabbed in the arm, but ambulance crews were turned back as the police felt it was too dangerous for them to enter the scene.
Fighting continued into the early hours and led to police requiring back-up from officers as far away as Lancaster and Burnley.
Chief Supt Mike Barton, divisional commander for the area, said more than 100 officers were deployed and he was treating the incident as race-related.
He said: "Some people I spoke to at the mosque insisted it wasn't racial but I think some people at the mosque believe it was.
"Until we actually find the offenders and speak to them, and because some people believe it to be racial, then that's how we'll treat it."
Insp Simon Hayes, force incident manager for Lancashire Police, described the incident as "community tension" with youths on the streets in a "confrontational mood".
He said: "As a result of that, there was a high-level policing operation to reassure the public and disperse these groups.
"There was no major disorder or serious incident."
Ilyas Desail, of the Jamea mosque on Clarendon Street, said: "It is not a mosque issue, it is a community issue.
"It is the month of Ramadan and that is the only reason the mosque has been brought into this.
"We are all upset by this, everyone is upset. No one is going to be happy with the tarnishing of such great efforts we have made in Preston in the past 40 years."
A mother-of-three, 33, from Clarendon Street, said: "It's getting ridiculous and for the past two nights there's been fighting."
Probably because a lot of people on their way to Heathrow, will be back to see it aired. It was also on billboards all around Manchester where Bill Clinton made a speech, at the Labour party conference, last week.
Although I guess you'll have a different take on it, in that context.
Yes. The most libertarian speech ever made in any film:
"They [the Alliance] will swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more runnin'. I aim to misbehave."
Regards, Ivan
"No. I'm not saying Americans have no sense of humour. I have the Family Guy DVDs to prove otherwise. I am suggesting that you, personally, have no sense of humour."
What you don't know about me could fill a book.
You can explain all you want about British advertising ploys but Great Britain tourism depends on American dollars. To post those things along the way to the airport is extremely provocative and self-destructive.
As someone who had just spent over a thousand pounds in London, I was disheartened and dismayed to read that billboard. No quite the same as reading some post here at Free Republic.
"What needs to be done, is that we need a British John Howard who will basically say, either accept our values or get the hell out."
what was Kylie Minogues first no1 hit?
We have a word for that on my patch of earth. It's called "paranoia". In every way that counts, including the blood of our troops, we are with you. I suggest you focus on that before you get your knickers in a twist about some billboards.
Thanks for visiting.
Ivan
For sure ! Segolene is very popular but nobody really knows what her political program is, or will be, or should be.... Officialy, the socialist party has a program but really nobody cares, even the socialists themselves. With Sarkozy, things are more clear (clearest?), except that Sarkozy is a first-class political weathercock. Remember 1995's presidential elections...
We've had them showing here, for years.
Springer even come over here to do special shows. Although instead of Trailer rash, he gets Chavs to bare their (messed up) soul on prime time TV.
If they take to rioting in these streets, they'd better be ware, the 2nd Amendment still is intact (at least where I live).
You still haven't explained. I understand perfectly that the countries you mention were part of the British Empire and most Brits would be more familiar with people from those 3 countries, but it still doesn't answer the question:
Since the majority of Indians are Hindus and not Muslims - why would you describe someone leaving a mosque as Asian instead of Muslim?
Why do American police sometimes describe someone as 'black' when they are actually of Jamaican descent?
Probably because they are speaking of the person's race - rather than their country of birth. A Jamaican could also be blond haired and blue eyed, if they are of British stock. If you are speaking of race, you are speaking of color - not national origin. If the police are doing a manhunt and described the person as a 5' 10" Jamaican - that wouldn't be a very good description. Anyone could have been born in Jamaica. If the police describe the person as a 5'10" black male - then everyone knows exactly who they are looking for.
"And why are they posted on the way to Heathrow?"
'On the way to Heathrow' is one of the busiest roads in the country. Traffic would be nice and slow moving. Not really hard to see why its a good spot for an advert.
We'll see what happens.
Regards, Ivan
Have you seen any press on this? I looked at the Telegraph and Times homepages....it is all Amish, all the time!
Regards, Ivan
"We have a word for that on my patch of earth. It's called "paranoia". In every way that counts, including the blood of our troops, we are with you. I suggest you focus on that before you get your knickers in a twist about some billboards."
You have been getting mighty personal with someone you don't know and obviously feel is way too sensitive. Didn't you quit this site for awhile because we were being too mean to the Brits?
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"...there was a high-level policing operation to reassure the public and disperse these groups. There was no major disorder or serious incident."
So, which is it?
I would merely operate under the assumption that those sponsoring the billboard no more speak for all British than any given billboard in the US speaks for all Americans....
I took a lot more abuse than some billboards; which is partially why I have absolutely no sympathy for your point of view. As for getting personal, if the fault lies with your perception of the situation, then where else should I look?
If you want to jump and down about billboards, that's your right. It's my right to fire right back at you - and point out the blatant truth - you're being pretty ridiculous. If indeed those billboards are the basis for you extrapolating the entire attitude of a nation, and have obscured the ways in which Britain helps the United States every single day, you've lost all perspective.
Ivan
"Since the majority of Indians are Hindus and not Muslims - why would you describe someone leaving a mosque as Asian instead of Muslim?"
Because the description 'asian' is used as an ethnic description. It is not in any way a synonym for 'muslim'.
Your paragraph on why American police tend to give the ethnic description 'black' applies equally to why British police tend to use the ethnic description 'asian'.
They weren't saying that back when the "Yanks" were coming from America during WWII to rescue their butts, but the very best of the UK left there back in the 1600's and 1700's and came TO America. Dry your tears. The billboard should have read "Has anything good ever come from Islamic countries?" - but the British may possibly be just too, too PC to say that. They're still mad at us about the Revolution.
Spoken like someone who has never been to the United Kingdom and understands abolutely nothing about it.
Ivan
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