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To: kinoxi

Apparently, they haven't learned what happened to Sony's Betamax.

(Sidenote) I have been generally happy with the Toshiba products I have bought over the years, but wasn't there some deal where technology was (illegally?) sold to the Russians back during the Cold War?


7 posted on 10/03/2006 4:37:04 AM PDT by RangerM
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To: RangerM
Not sure about any Russian connection. I was just commenting on the last 2 laptops I have bought in the last year and a half. I initially cursed Windows of course but it is apparently multiple hardware issues.
10 posted on 10/03/2006 4:41:37 AM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: RangerM

Toshiba sold submarine propeller machining technology to the USSR in violation of a treaty with the US.


14 posted on 10/03/2006 4:44:57 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: RangerM
wasn't there some deal where technology was (illegally?) sold to the Russians back during the Cold War?

Yup, if I recall it had something to do with submarines or propellors or something.

Anyway, the individuals involved in that are probably long dead or retired.

I don't look down on anyone who buys a VW or Mitsubishi, yet both of those companies made products that killed a lot more Americans.

17 posted on 10/03/2006 4:46:57 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: RangerM
wasn't there some deal where technology was (illegally?) sold to the Russians back during the Cold War?

Toshiba illegally (?) shared technology related to submarine propeller design (as I recall).

18 posted on 10/03/2006 4:48:00 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: RangerM
(Sidenote) I have been generally happy with the Toshiba products I have bought over the years, but wasn't there some deal where technology was (illegally?) sold to the Russians back during the Cold War?

Milling machines for making submarine propellors that were more efficient with less cavitation.

19 posted on 10/03/2006 4:48:04 AM PDT by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: RangerM

Toshiba sold Russia some sophisticated CAD/CAM machining equipment that was aptly suited to manufacturing extremely "quiet" submarine propellers. I have not bought anything from Toshiba since the day I learned that almost 20 years ago....


20 posted on 10/03/2006 4:48:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RangerM

Your Betamax comparison is way off the mark. There is no compatibility or programming availability issue here.

This is a matter of buying a fantastic screen and hooking it up.

Oh, and being totally blown away.


23 posted on 10/03/2006 4:51:29 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: RangerM
Apparently, they haven't learned what happened to Sony's Betamax.

Completely different situation. Betamax was incompatible with other media formats. Since that format did not become the standard, nobody produced their material on that format. In this case, this TV is not dependant on any format. It just displays signals that all TV's receive better. Toshiba would be dumb to give away this technology.

29 posted on 10/03/2006 4:57:12 AM PDT by Always Right
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