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Surveillance cameras going up in downtown Dallas
AP ^

Posted on 10/03/2006 7:35:06 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

They are meant to reduce crime by helping police spot problems. By the end of the year, 40 cameras will cover 31 locations in the area.

It's part of a plan first announced in January by Dallas Police.

Grant money will cover the 840-thousand dollar price tag for the cameras.

Police will monitor the cameras from their headquarters and City Hall.

Some residents feel apprehensive about the surveillance, seeing it as an invasion of privacy.

But others say the cameras could help curb petty crime and random violence.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 4a; 4thamendment; bigbrother; camera; cameras; dallas; eyeinthesky; fourthamendment; monitor; monitoring; police; search; searchandseizure; secure; security; seizure; surveillance; texas


1 posted on 10/03/2006 7:35:07 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lunatic Fringe

If events play out the way they did in London, buy shares in hooded sweaters that conceal the wearer's face from cameras. But since this is Texas, maybe invest in cowboy hats with really, really wide brims. Sombreros?


2 posted on 10/03/2006 7:39:17 AM PDT by gcruse (" I can not support them now because Jones has turned them into a joke" I can not support them now b)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Every large city is short on law enforcement officers. They cannot possibly be everywhere 24 hours a day. If placing cameras on the streets of crime ridden areas helps curb crime or help convict criminals, so be it.

If I read this article correctly, these cameras would be on public streets. There is no expectation of privacy there.


3 posted on 10/03/2006 7:45:26 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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I've spent a lot of time in Downtown. The only violence I ever saw was on Texas-OU night. The only petty crime was when a guy tried to sell me drugs once. I crossed the street and pointed him out to a cop who told me the guy does that all the time. How are the cameras going to do nearly a million bucks worth of good when the cops won't do anything about crimes that are reported to them?


4 posted on 10/03/2006 7:52:22 AM PDT by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Orwell's "1984" used to seem like a fantasy nightmare. Decades ago I used to say, due to size and cost of cameras and an army of observers, it can't happen. Now, thanks to computers that employ facial recognition or read license plates, and video cameras that fit on a chip, survellance is possible and affordable beyond Orwell's wildest imaginings. That technology could really be abused by some future government.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 8:12:47 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: TexasRepublic

"That technology could really be abused by some future government."

That sure does sound rather ominous!


6 posted on 10/03/2006 8:28:19 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: stm
Hi stm-

Please don't be so quick to surrender your valuable Fourth Amendment rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.

~ Blue Jays ~

7 posted on 10/03/2006 8:30:54 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: stm
"They cannot possibly be everywhere 24 hours a day. If placing cameras on the streets of crime ridden areas helps curb crime or help convict criminals, so be it."

Why should they be "everywhere 24 hours a day"? What is this, the Soviet Union with two armed guards on every street corner? Giving up freedom for a false sense of security is a very bad idea. These cameras will only catch petty crimes, the sort of things we don't need to worry much about anyway. I'm thinking they'd like to place a camera inside everyone's home and workplace. After all, as they tell us: "if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about".

8 posted on 10/03/2006 9:48:24 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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When my wife was pregnant with our second daughter, she came out of a store, with our first daughter in her arms, and had a man come up behind her and snatch her purse. She fell to the ground, dropping our daughter and landing square on her stomach. The scumbag was never caught.

Is this the kind of "petty crime" that you don't need to worry much about anyway?


9 posted on 10/03/2006 10:38:47 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: stm

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=508261

Yup. Just as long as it's on a public street.


10 posted on 10/04/2006 3:58:04 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Not surprising that they are following in Chicago's footsteps - from what I've heard, the Dallas area has been electing a lot of democrats the past few years.
11 posted on 10/12/2006 11:52:50 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: stm
Is this the kind of "petty crime" that you don't need to worry much about anyway?

Would a camera have physically protected your wife, or would another cop walking the beat or dedicated to going after these types?

Putting aside the tinfoil/control/Big Brother issues, some of these groups think that cameras can replace cops. They can't.
12 posted on 10/12/2006 11:57:18 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: stm

What about one on your street....with a fish-eye lens, taking in your house?


13 posted on 10/12/2006 11:59:22 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: stm
Every large city is short on law enforcement officers. They cannot possibly be everywhere 24 hours a day. If placing cameras on the streets of crime ridden areas helps curb crime or help convict criminals, so be it.

Piss on that, we have CCW for a reason. I for one do not want to be walking around under the eye of Big Brother ever.

14 posted on 10/12/2006 12:06:27 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: Lunatic Fringe

15 posted on 10/12/2006 12:10:27 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Well, my days of not taking your seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: stm
Every large city is short on law enforcement officers. They cannot possibly be everywhere 24 hours a day...

Second Amendment was added in there for a reason. This was part of it.

16 posted on 10/12/2006 12:11:32 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Well, my days of not taking your seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: Froufrou

I seem to recall a quote by a founding father that goes something like; "Whoever sacrifices liberty for security has neither."


17 posted on 10/12/2006 12:12:32 PM PDT by gun_supporter
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To: gun_supporter

That's a lovely quote, one of my favorites. Adams, wasn't it?

The point is, he returned. That smacks of being an agitator. LE has traditionally kept the peace be deterring agitators. Go figure.


18 posted on 10/12/2006 12:14:10 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

It was actually Franklin.


19 posted on 10/12/2006 12:26:29 PM PDT by gun_supporter
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