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Foley Setup? - Part V - Uncovering the Conspiracy
Macsminds ^ | 10.04.06 | Macranger

Posted on 10/04/2006 4:57:03 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Huck
"Give it up. Just say "Foley was a perv, he's gone." And move on to another topic."

Good dog, Huck. Now, roll over.

Good Huck! Good boy! What a nice rino, yes!

Now huck, good boy! Good boy!!! Fetch the NY Times, Huck!

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Obedience class is over. The libs aren't moving on. You'd let them get away with a dirty trick like this.

Stop being a dhimmi. Fight back.

Bad dog, Huck.

AV

61 posted on 10/04/2006 6:58:24 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit (www.aroostookbeauty.com)
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To: jrooney

Just a comment about Foley's screenname signing on to AOL yesterday:

It may have LOOKED like he only signed on for 20-30 seconds but what he, or whoever it was, very likely may have done is sign on, go to his buddy list, go to the privacy controls and then select the option to block anyone from being able to see he is online. At that point, it would appear he had signed off. It would only take about 20-30 seconds to do this.

I strongly suspect this is what may have happened.

Now, none of the above really means all that much, but just wanted to put it out there.

The person using his account could have just been his attorney or even investigators. I am in the camp of believing Foley DID write some and possibly ALL of the nasty exchanges, but of course my guess is no better than anyone else's at this point.


62 posted on 10/04/2006 7:00:32 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1

I think Foley did write some of the IMs too but all of them, I am not sure. Something is terribly wrong with this story and since the majority for Congress is at stake when we are at war, it is vital we try and find out whom had the IMs, how they obtained them and why they were not released earlier, so Foley could have been removed from Congress and teens were not being stalked by a sexual predator. The donks are trying to destroy the republican party over this and allowing them to do it without fighting back is akin to cutting and running.


63 posted on 10/04/2006 7:09:42 AM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: Atomic Vomit

That's funny. You and your buddies, go running after this dumb story like dogs after a tennis ball, and I'm the lap dog? That's a laugh. Oh well. This is one of those times when ppl just lose their sanity. The DEMs have got to be enjoying it. Good work, dummy!


64 posted on 10/04/2006 7:12:06 AM PDT by Huck (There is a $2.00 service charge for this tagline---do you still wish to proceed?)
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To: Huck

Oh I think the Republican leadership ought to introduce legislation that requires both parties to place sex patrols around each member.

See what these squealing libs do with that one.


65 posted on 10/04/2006 7:14:58 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: KJC1
This is not about defending Foley, it's about defending the GOP leadership from baseless claims to force them out.

Baseless claims are meaningless. They should just say "Nonsense. No one is resigning." And leave it at that. Next question.

66 posted on 10/04/2006 7:15:00 AM PDT by Huck (There is a $2.00 service charge for this tagline---do you still wish to proceed?)
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To: KJC1
Would one have to sign on in Foley's screen name in order to get access to those that would have been on Foley's buddy list, or can the buddy list be seen without logging on?
67 posted on 10/04/2006 7:15:08 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Just mythoughts

Yeah, I'm sure there's more pervs in Congress than just this one. I am pretty sure, though, my guy, Scott Garrett, ain't one of them.


68 posted on 10/04/2006 7:17:15 AM PDT by Huck (There is a $2.00 service charge for this tagline---do you still wish to proceed?)
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To: Perdogg
But again, those who particpated before the fact in the “outing” of Foley, seem to have had at this point specific knowledge of his activities and if proven at the least are guilty of conspriracy to withhold evidence, and obstruction of justice.

Most legal scholars and the FBI dont seem to think that a crime has been committed by Foley from what they have seen so far. If Foley committed no crime and hasnt been charged with any, how can these so-called conspirators be guilty of withholding evidence?

69 posted on 10/04/2006 7:18:51 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: jennyjenny
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70 posted on 10/04/2006 7:20:17 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Huck
Well these stupid liberals have made leadership as responsible for what the perverts do, so take them on put the legislation on the floor of the House and watch them fleeeeee.
71 posted on 10/04/2006 7:21:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Huck
Huck-

Roll over, boy.

AV

72 posted on 10/04/2006 7:22:34 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit (www.aroostookbeauty.com)
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To: Mad Dawg
I tend to prefer rifles to shotguns, though I can use a shotty if I have to. This is a matter which I think calls for scalpels rather than broadaxes. Your mileage may vary.

As with all these scandals, the truth will keep "evolving" as long as it is sticking to someone. IMO, that is why it is important to clearly know where the truth ends and partisan fantasy begins. Most of the people directly involved in this don't even know what an IM is, let alone know that any goofball with Notepad could manufacture the "evidence" being used here.

In the end, after the election most likely, I imagine we will learn that Foley is indeed a scumbag, but, a lot of what is being bandied about by ABC as evidence has in fact been manufactured or altered.

73 posted on 10/04/2006 7:22:46 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: jennyjenny

In order for "Maf54" to show up on someone else's buddy list, both parties would need to be signed on to AOL (or AIM). Also, if you wanted to know if he was online you would add "Maf54" to your buddy list; you don't have to be on his buddy list. If a person selects the option to "block" others, then that person won't show up as logged on even when he is in fact logged on.


74 posted on 10/04/2006 7:22:53 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Huck
Baseless claims are meaningless. They should just say "Nonsense. No one is resigning." And leave it at that. Next question.

Uh huh, that simple.

Except for the fact that the Dems won't shut up about it, and the fact that this needs to be investigated - which Hastert himself requested. The Dems are accusing the GOP leadership of "covering up" the explicit IMs, accusing them of not protecting the pages, enabling pedophilia, and on and on.

Well, I'm just glad you aren't the one making the call here, because the GOP is already getting buried under a mountain of bogus allegations. We MUST fight this, or pay heavily at the polls.

75 posted on 10/04/2006 7:27:52 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Turbo Pig
Not only could they have enabled that POS Foley to take his advances to the point where a crime was committed (by all accounts, at this time none was), they may have also tried to influence a Federal election through illegal means.

What Federal Statute are you referring to? Campaigns always hold on to hot dirt until near the end so the opponent doesnt have enough time to offer a defense. Doesnt mean its illegal. Hell if the bar was that low, none of the advertising run by either side would be legal.

76 posted on 10/04/2006 7:28:54 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Huck

You totally miss the point. The big issue that cannot be ignored is that the drive by media is making a charge of systematic and party-wide corruption of this. The issue they're bringing forward is:

What did the Republican leadership know, and when did they know it?

Hastert says he was told of the emails only, Foley said it was taken out of context and he didn't mean anything bad by it, Hstert told Foley to knock it off, Foley said Yessir, and that was it.

Now various groups, some attributing to themselves a conservative label, are calling on Hastert and other top Republicans to themselves resign over this. Further investigation by real conservative bloggers found that several of these so-called groups are actually democratic organizations (one, American Family Voices, is run by current Hillary Clinton and ex-Clinton White House staffer Mike Lux), and that the media knew of the IM's long beofre the House Republican leadership did, and are sandbagging them about it now, deliberately confusing the emails that were known with the IMs that were not known by the House leadership.

If you think Republicans can just move on from that without fighting back then you must truly think they are the Stupid Party.


77 posted on 10/04/2006 7:31:25 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: elc
Doesn't necessarily matter that there wasn't physical contact. Attempting to meet with a minor is enough in most cases to get arrested.

But they actually had to show up at the kids house with intent to commit the crime.

78 posted on 10/04/2006 7:31:37 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: saganite
If someone is complicit in withholding evidence of a potential crime so the information could be used as an "October surprise" then it needs to be pursued with all speed. Wake up and smell the coffee

It may bother you but what is the crime?

I doubt that the FBI or anyone else in government is going to investigate anything beyond Foley unless its determined that Foley's large campaign contribution to the Republican Congressional Campaign Organization was a bribe. Other than that, the FBI may want to verify the IM's and emails since they might be used against Foley if determined to be a crime. But you are deluded if you think the Feds are going to uncover a conspiracy of who put this information out into the public.

79 posted on 10/04/2006 7:38:53 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: jrooney
I have located the statement made by Mark Foley's attorney, David Roth. This statement was made yesterday at a press conference:

"Statement by Mark Foley's attorney, David Roth

Mark explicitly reaffirms his acceptance of responsibility and remorse. He reiterates unequivocally that he has never had sexual contact with a minor. Mark voluntarily entered a substance abuse and mental health facility on Sunday at approximately midnight Sunday Eastern Time.

80 posted on 10/04/2006 7:40:30 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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