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FOLEY EMAILS WERE ALTERED?
LGF ^ | 10-2-06 | LGF, Wild Bill

Posted on 10/05/2006 6:33:28 PM PDT by Gribbles141

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To: wagglebee
Perhaps the 'Rats would like to furnish a list of every single homosexual in the upper levels of the federal bureaucracy and we can investigage each and every one of them to determine if they have ever tried to proposition ANOTHER ADULT of the same sex.

Oh they already have that list for the Republians........CORN of the NAtion...owns that.....

241 posted on 10/06/2006 9:49:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All

To donate to Mark Foley's replacement Joe Negron, State Rep from The treasure coast of Florida. His website is joenegron.com


242 posted on 10/06/2006 9:51:34 AM PDT by samantha (Cheer up,the Adults are in charge,but need reinforcements very soon.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks to you for your research!

And their strategies have been outlined for years. No suprise that they've done what they said they'd do.

I can only hope that fence sitters are seeing the truth of the homosexual agenda, and indeed, all leftist agendas.


243 posted on 10/06/2006 9:58:22 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Grampa Dave
I know I am late to this particualr party, but read some of the thread and wanted to add a couple of thoughts. Forgive me if they are redundant.

1) E-mails can potentially go through many different types of e-mail engines from point A to point B. Microsoft Exchange and Lotus Notes being two examples. As e-mails go from one engine type to the next, their appearance can be dramatically changed. They may be converted from HTML to RTF format. The actual text normally makes it through in tact, but the formatting of text, line breaks etc. usually get whacked.

2) As far as evidentiary value, the only way this e-mail and IM "evidence" holds up in court is if you have the actual electronic copy of the e-mail so it can be looked at in a hex dump. Programs used to create e-mails and other electronic documents all leave tracks in the file. E-mail engines add extensive headers that reveal routing information. A printed copy is worth bupkis. A fax copy is worth less, ala Rathergate.

3) As we have seen these communications reported, any moron, including most democrats, could have created the "evidence" using Notepad, which is what I think happened. Knowing someone is gay and proving it are two different things. Why not sit down at a computer and create a little evidence to prove it?

I suspect Foley was duped and because he was compromised - he knew he had been chicken hawking - he resigned without knowing he was duped. Blackmail at it's best.
244 posted on 10/06/2006 9:59:59 AM PDT by IamConservative (A mans true character is revealed in what he does when no one is watching.)
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To: wagglebee

Excellent response. Denny wasn't Foley's boss. Those demanding Denny's head know that. They are part of the maggot infected rat lynch mob.

"Perhaps the 'Rats would like to furnish a list of every single homosexual in the upper levels of the federal bureaucracy and we can investigage each and every one of them to determine if they have ever tried to proposition ANOTHER ADULT of the same sex."

I bet that an check up on the gay maggots working for Pelosi and Barney would show several predators which Pelosi and Barney have known about for years.


245 posted on 10/06/2006 10:04:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: IamConservative

Thanks for your input re emails and messages. I never message so I know nothing about it. It appears you have a good understanding about emails. It seems like it would be really easy to Rather/Mapes any email or message to make it say whatever you wanted it to say.


246 posted on 10/06/2006 10:07:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave
It seems like it would be really easy to Rather/Mapes any email or message to make it say whatever you wanted it to say.

25 plus years with Unix and Windows networks and applications. I've seen a few things. Everytime we think these things are idiot proof, someone creates a bigger idiot! :) Hope it helps, keep after them..

247 posted on 10/06/2006 10:13:50 AM PDT by IamConservative (A mans true character is revealed in what he does when no one is watching.)
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To: IamConservative

You have 25 years more real background than I have as casual computer user. Thanks for the feedback and please join in when and where you fill additional real knowledge will help us.

Thanks


248 posted on 10/06/2006 10:15:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; IncPen

Would someone please post the famous post where the Blather/Mapes memo changed right in front of our eyes. That is what we are dealing with.


249 posted on 10/06/2006 10:17:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: AliVeritas
See the Hastert thread about a Book Deal:

there apparently was a promise of a book deal to pages by a Robin Kasaros.

250 posted on 10/06/2006 10:32:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Iowa Granny

bump


251 posted on 10/06/2006 10:40:25 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Grampa Dave; Sam Hill; Howlin; Mo1; Miss Marple; nopardons; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; blam; ...
More from the Blogosphere:

Remember, If these are doctored e-mails then this is a big deal.

*********************AN EXCERPT ******************************

The CREW Emails - Many Discrepencies!

Important Updates Below

Remember, If these are doctored e-mails then this is a big deal.

CREW has posted the emails it sent to the FBI (which are redacted like the FBI claims) and there are interesting tidbits for the timeline. These email refer to the 2005 contacts with the Page from Louisianna whose family has asked ther media to stay away.

First off, the emails between the Page and the House Staffer were sent on August 31, 2005! Yes folks, last year. Supposedly this is from the Page to an unknown Staffer (democrat?) who was the intermediary for passing the emails to the news media. So we know the Congressional staffer held these for a year and never told the FBI or House leadership.

Second, the Fax was made on May 29, 2006. This would imply the Fax to CREW was almost a year later than the tip to the staffer. But CREW also held onto these for 2 months until they provided them to the FBI on July 21. Obviously they did not rush these to the FBI like they claimed.

Third, the date on the lower right of the pages containing the August 30th and 31st email exchanges is 10/17/05 - which means this first section was printed out for some purpose (Faxing?) in October - two months after the exchange. This first email runs from pages 1-4 of the Fax sent to CREW (the cover page is missing, which would contain the contactÂ’s information). Then follows the Foley emails themselves through the remaining pages. These have a date of 9/13/05, meaning these pages were printed off a month prior to the other document. These are not one continuous email! These are two printouts from a month apart combined in a single Fax.

Finally, the email from the Page is going to a House email account, meaning the intermediary is definitely in the House.

More as time permits. But clearly the Folely emails were printed out in September and possibly shopped around. They are not attachments to the other email. The first email shows, upper right, number X of 3 pages. While the original emails show number X of some number between 10-19 (only the “1″ is visible). These number 9 pages and are not part of the first email, as CREW claims. I see why the FBI was suspicious.

Update: I should also note another problem. The only Foley email to the Page with a date visible is the first contact on July 29, 2005 - before Katrina obviously. And about Katrina. Katrina hit land on August 29th. These emails with the Page and the Staffer are on August 30th and 31st? The district this Page is from is the 5th District of LA, which is the upper east half of the LA “boot” top. But my recollection was massive power problems at this time. So was the Page in Louisianna? Why are the dates all blacked out the on the Foley emails? Do they not jive with the first email’s date of 8/31/05?

Update: There is a mention of a “Rodney” at the end of the email from the Page to the Staffer. Could this be referring to Rodney Alexander - the Rep from the Page’s home district? If it wasn’t for the informality I would say yes. But this then raises other quetions. This fits in nicely with the timeline when Alexander is notified - but did an Alexander staff member send the Fax to CREW? I seriously doubt it. The family wanted this kept under wraps. So who got hold of the documents to Fax to CREW? I now think the email could be between the Page and Alexander’s staff - though I still wonder about the timing of all this right on top of Katrina. And I cannot help but remember Brian Ross’ comment about being too busy with Katrina to deal with these emails. I still wonder if he let slip knowing someting in August 2005, not 2006.

[Cheap Track Back Link to HotAir]

Update: The original email from the Page to the Staffer does show signs of editing. The thoughts being expressed are disjoint and incoherent. Take this jump:

What happened was I gave certain people Thank-you cards, you know? I gave Foley one because he was a really nice guy to me and all. Then, he asked me to write my e-mail on the back of his. So I was like, “sure!” because of course I had no suspicions.
[followed by three lines of blank space - then a jump in topic}
Â…yeah. [Redacted] was just another page he liked. I donÂ’t like [redacted] at all. To me, he was the epitome of a narcissist. For real. He had to be better than anyone at anything and was caught lying about a lot of stuff.

A writer who can put “epitome” and “narcissist” in the same sentence can communicate a lot clearer than this. The random white spaces all show jumps in topic. These emails do seem to be messed with.

Make sure to check out the work Mac Ranger is doing on possible book deals and Nancy Pelosi

Update: This is one poor job of hacking emails. Another problem. Note the “subject” line in the emails from Folely. They say “email 2″ and “email 3″, etc. No email program would do that with a subject line. And Folely definitely wouldnÂ’t do that (who thinks these are consecutive?). These are so doctored up it is ridiculous. The look overly faxed again, like someone deliberately aged them - even though emails from 2003 can be printed pristine anytime. This makes me question the custody of the information. The first email printed 10/17/06 looks to have been Faxed once. The Folely emails printed 9/13/06 look to be copies one or two cycles old (depending on the copy machine) and later faxed. That means a different custody chain.

Posted by AJStrata on Friday, October 6th, 2006 at 9:10 am.

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This book deal thing is getting interesting. A message found:

Just One Minute

Hello all,
Yes, the book is still in progress. Outline is complete. Four of the fifteen chapters are in rough draft form (the chapters with input from previous Pages has not been completed - this part will take the longest since I have to spend so much time interviewing people and IÂ’ve left this part until the end, although I have received some input from a very few people.) I have an agent (my husband is a published author), but no publisher yet. I am also working with a company that letÂ’s you self publish, sort of Print on Demand. And yes, you do get assigned an ISBN and it will be available at all the major book sellers. So I will do that if my agent can not get a publisher interested. Pictures have not been chosen, many more edits to go through. ItÂ’s a long process. IÂ’ve had to squeeze it in with my other responsibilities, so itÂ’s taking longer than I thought. But it IS going to happen, at some point in time.
Thanks, Robin Katsaros

Just who is Robin Katsaros?

Seems she is an uber liber who likes to communicate with Randi Rhodes. She just happens to have had a son in the page program in 2003 - sponsored by Nancy Pelosi

CHRISTOPHER KATSAROS is a sophomore at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service. He grew up in Los Altos Hills, CA–just outside of San Francisco. ***Christopher served his junior year of High School working as a Congressional Page by appointment of Nancy Pelosi, currently the Democratic House Leader***.

From ChrisÂ’s myspace page:

I cheer for France and sometimes think of myself as European rather than American

AJ,

This post from Macranger is very telling. The popcorn trail is leading right to PelosiÂ’s doorstep. - -

Bit h/t to the Commenters at Just One Minute. We bloggers owe our best work to their diligence and tenacity. The following is a complilation of some what they found so far, of what just may be the key to getting to the bottom of a Democratic conspiracy in the Foley Setup.

As I previously posted here, there apparently was a promise of a book deal to pages by a Robin Kasaros. Googling her name brought about useful information such as she hosted “House Parties” back in 2005. No, not where you sell Tupperware, but the kind that like to talk about things like, “Impeaching the President”. This was found on uber Moonbat, and Air America Host Randi Rhoades website:

“Hi. Randi, Ambassador Joe Wilson and Cong John Conyers are all participating in house parties on Saturday to talk about Downing Street and Rovegate. You can find a link to attend or host one of the house parties on therandirhodesshow.com.
More than 200 have already been planned everywhere from Buffalo to San Francisco, Sandpoint, Idaho to Rock Hill, South Carolina.

HereÂ’s the full list of house parties planned so far.

Listed at the bottom of the page:

Robin Katsaros 12900 Atherton Ct. Los Altos Hills CA 94022.

On a another post on the Alumni website (Google cached), her response to the progress of the book was posted:

“Hello all, Yes, the book is still in progress. Outline is complete. Four of the fifteen chapters are in rough draft form (the chapters with input from previous Pages has not been completed - this part will take the longest since I have to spend so much time interviewing people and I’ve left this part until the end, although I have received some input from a very few people.) I have an agent (my husband is a published author), but no publisher yet. I am also working with a company that let’s you self publish, sort of Print on Demand. And yes, you do get assigned an ISBN and it will be available at all the major book sellers. So I will do that if my agent can not get a publisher interested. Pictures have not been chosen, many more edits to go through. It’s a long process. I’ve had to squeeze it in with my other responsibilities, so it’s taking longer than I thought. But it IS going to happen, at some point in time. Thanks, Robin Katsaros

Now who is Robin? Well besides being supportive of the John Conyers agenda, you know “Get the majority, Impeach Bush”, her son is Christopher Karasos who was a congressional page who was appointed by Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

From his bio page

“CHRISTOPHER KATSAROS is a sophomore at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service. He grew up in Los Altos Hills, CA–just outside of San Francisco. ***Christopher served his junior year of High School working as a Congressional Page by appointment of Nancy Pelosi, currently the Democratic House Leader***. In addition to politics, Chris also enjoys shopping, artichokes, the sun and summer in general. Next semester, Christopher will be going to Dakar, Senegal, where he will go to school and work for an NGO (as well as doing some work with the Peace Corps).

According to Chris’s My Space.com page, Chris lists his orientation as “Gay”.

It also lists this blurb he wrote about himself:

I am very open minded and active in the Democratic Party. My junior year of high school I was a Congressional Page.

According to his age, approximately 21 this would have put him in the congressional page assignment in 2003, or around the same time as Edmund.

As you remember from Drudge’s blockbuster yesterday, it was a “source” that stated they knew Edmund and that it all was a prank, an accusation that Edmund’s criminal attorney of course denies.

Now would all this be the reason that Madem Pelosi was so defensive about taking polygraphs? What did she know about Chris? When did she know it?


252 posted on 10/06/2006 10:42:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: wouldntbprudent; ArmyBratproud; Grampa Dave
See above postings.....

Now we may have something pointing directly at Pelosi.....this is REALLY GETTING GOOD!!!!

253 posted on 10/06/2006 10:44:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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254 posted on 10/06/2006 10:59:26 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (By a miracle we lived through 'Eight Clinton Years of Living Hell'....NO MORE CLINTON'S...EVER!)
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To: Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ...

Thanks Ernest, for the ping.


255 posted on 10/06/2006 11:13:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GretchenM

LOL!


256 posted on 10/06/2006 11:16:13 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Grampa Dave

257 posted on 10/06/2006 11:36:06 AM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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258 posted on 10/06/2006 11:53:02 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (By a miracle we lived through 'Eight Clinton Years of Living Hell'....NO MORE CLINTON'S...EVER!)
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To: GRRRRR

".......oh yeah, emails have been forwarded around, recopied and re-emailed to make them look like actual emails from long ago."


Embedded in each email is the IP of the originator. People think that the internet is anonymous. Far from it. These emails can be traced. But it will take a court order to get the records.


259 posted on 10/06/2006 12:03:39 PM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: happy2u
No one said that. Pay attention, you might learn something beyond your limited scope, sir and/or madame.

Your visit will probably be short.

260 posted on 10/06/2006 1:36:26 PM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ .05ยข a can.)
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