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Man Beaten To Death In Low-Security O.C. Jail (Pedophile beaten to death by 140 inmates)
Cbs2 LA News ^ | 10/06/06 | N/A

Posted on 10/06/2006 8:41:04 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

Man Beaten To Death In Low-Security O.C. Jail

(CBS) SANTA ANA, Calif. A Mission Viejo man awaiting trial on suspicion of possessing child pornography for sale was beaten to death in a jail unit for low-security inmates, an Orange County sheriff's representative said Friday.

John Derek Chamberlain, 41, was "murdered by an inmate or inmates while in the shower" at the Theo Lacy jail in Orange, the department's Jim Amormino said.

Guards got a call of a "man down" about 6:30 p.m. Thursday, and Chamberlain was declared dead at a hospital about an hour later, Amormino said.

Investigators were interviewing some 140 inmates, he said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dueprocess; howzaboutatrialfirst; murder; sickobitesthedust; vigilante
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
I happen to live in OC and I hope and pray that if I ever find myself on trial for a crime I did not commit, you, sir, are not on the jury.
161 posted on 10/07/2006 11:04:23 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: antiunion person

"Ddon't you know everyone in jail and prison is innocent. EVERYONE."

That's not true!

I read last night on FR that 98% are guilty as charged.


162 posted on 10/07/2006 11:10:56 AM PDT by stultorum (dont hire illegal aliens)
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To: SmoothTalker
"I kinda like the idea of the rule of law and using a trial to determine whether or not someone is guilty."

If our law system worked that way, you wouldn't have people in jail awaiting their day in court.

If you are to be presumed innocent before a trial, then you should be free to walk home after being given your notice to appear.

But, I do agree, the prison population should at least wait until perv's are convicted, then they can do what they want with them.

163 posted on 10/07/2006 12:07:36 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: jch10

A Freeper who is condoning vigilante justice and murder of a man held in custody and awaiting trial is a creep IMO. The condoning of murder of anyone goes beyond a mere difference of opinion. This Freeper's comments are offensive and should not be acceptable on this forum.
It makes FR look like a collection of vigilante kooks.


164 posted on 10/07/2006 12:33:09 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: antceecee

Two wrongs don't make a right, my mother always said.


165 posted on 10/07/2006 12:38:55 PM PDT by jch10
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To: jch10

Your mother is correct, however I don't consider stating the obvious as wrong.
Perhaps you could spend some time reading this person's offensive remarks and then preach to the rest of the freepers who have posted the same feelings about his commentary. Furthermore, if you don't like what I have to say don't read it.


166 posted on 10/07/2006 12:45:40 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
I might, but i'm not, so i won't.

A false accusation could change that.

167 posted on 10/07/2006 1:53:59 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: robertpaulsen
There's been several articles on FR about hackers setting up kiddie porn distribution nodes on unprotected computers connected to the Internet. All while the owner of the computer had no idea what was going on. In some of the cases the prosecutor still pushed on ahead with prosecution because the offending pictures were found on the persons computer and those little details of how they may have actually gotten there didn't matter to them.

The point of all this, is that's why we have trials.

Killing someone for "suspicion of possessing child pornography for sale" is not good. And now that the guy is dead there will be no trial. His name will forever be stained by the charge with no opportunity to set the record straight - if in fact he didn't do it.
168 posted on 10/07/2006 2:34:48 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB
"There's been several articles on FR about hackers setting up kiddie porn distribution nodes on unprotected computers connected to the Internet"

Fine. Let's say this happened to me. My point is, why would the authorities look for kiddie porn on my computer to begin with?

I'm saying that if a guy is arrested for molesting children (or whatever), the prosecutor gets a warrant, searches his computer and finds kiddie porn, I doubt that the guy's going to have much luck in claiming that some hacker downloaded it while he wasn't looking.

169 posted on 10/07/2006 3:10:21 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

That's not what happens.

The people that distribute kiddie porn hijack private computers that are poorly secured and use them to distribute their illegal data. That way, they, the actual source is very difficult to find. When law enforcement tracks down a particular server on the Internet by tracking down the IP being used to distribute it they find a computer sitting in someones home. The owner of said computer has no idea that their computer has been hijacked and doing what it is doing.

It isn't nearly as strange as you may think. For a long time MS Windows has had numerous serious security holes that has allowed people to search out poorly secured machines and use them for their own purposes.


170 posted on 10/07/2006 6:16:12 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: CindyDawg

"It doesn't make a difference if he was guilty or not. Punishment is the courts responsibilty, not a prison mob."

Exactly. And have you ever noticed the lack of forgiveness that is overwhelming our society today. The idea that no one can change their hearts and their ways. Like their can only be one motive in a persons heart. Like no one ever haven committed ceartin crimes has the right to ever be forgiven. These people who lack all forgiveness are one day going to be judged by their own standards. And it is not going to be good for them. Jesus said...."If you do not forgive then you I will not forgive you". Some people should take a lesson from the Amish.


171 posted on 10/07/2006 6:36:36 PM PDT by Revel
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To: DB
"The owner of said computer has no idea that their computer has been hijacked and doing what it is doing."

And these people are being thrown in jail for possession of kiddie porn? Is that what you're saying?

172 posted on 10/08/2006 4:27:00 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Yes. Some have been.


173 posted on 10/08/2006 4:28:52 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

Are you crazy? The guy wasn't convicted yet. It sounds to me as though the prisioners in this low security facility needed to be in a higher security facility


174 posted on 10/08/2006 4:47:50 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
So in other words, he slipped on the soap, correct?
175 posted on 10/08/2006 4:49:13 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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