Skip to comments.Man Beaten To Death In Low-Security O.C. Jail (Pedophile beaten to death by 140 inmates)
Posted on 10/06/2006 8:41:04 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
Man Beaten To Death In Low-Security O.C. Jail
(CBS) SANTA ANA, Calif. A Mission Viejo man awaiting trial on suspicion of possessing child pornography for sale was beaten to death in a jail unit for low-security inmates, an Orange County sheriff's representative said Friday.
John Derek Chamberlain, 41, was "murdered by an inmate or inmates while in the shower" at the Theo Lacy jail in Orange, the department's Jim Amormino said.
Guards got a call of a "man down" about 6:30 p.m. Thursday, and Chamberlain was declared dead at a hospital about an hour later, Amormino said.
Investigators were interviewing some 140 inmates, he said.
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They should be executed. He was "awaiting trial" on "suspicion". In our system we are INNOCENT until proven guilty.
He was there for a reason. 98% of those on trial are guilty. I'm good with those odds.
I searched, as i always do, and nothing came up!
Uh, "innocent until proven guilty" was still the law the last time I checked, friend. I detest kiddie porn and those who traffic in it, but until someone is proven guilty in a court of law (or pleads guilty), the law says he's innocent.
There was never a trial. This guy was murdered.
....this subhuman insect.
He has become assimilated!
The man was being tried on SUSPICION.
You are excusing the murder of a man that was merely accused.
My Dad was surrounded by police in the San Fernando Valley and held in custody in the mid 70's on "suspicion" of robbing a bank. Turned out that the automobile he was driving fit the description of the auto involved in the incident and he was in the area where it occurred.
They let him go after apprehending the real criminals. I would have been without a Dad if someone would have just decided he was scum and shot him.
Your solution dissolves all rights of the accused. What if YOU were accused ... you would change your mind pretty damn quick.
Yeah. Happens to me all the time too.
"There was never a trial."
Yes there was. It took place in the showers at the OC jail. Tried, convicted and executed. I'm drinking a nice glass of cab and rejoicing with a nice cigar.
Keep in mind that the GOP is "under suspicion" for harboring a representative who sent some questionable IMs. Sheesh. Anyone remember Janet Reno and Waco, Texas?
"you would change your mind pretty damn quick"
I might, but i'm not, so i won't.
Then you're living in the wrong country.
Then there is always 'poetic justice". May it happen to you.
I'm living in the greatest country in the history of the world. Seems like the right one to me.
In this country we have a real system of justice. What if this guy was really innocent?
"Then there is always 'poetic justice"
Poetic justice is what happened to this creep.
So why have trials at all? Why not just let the police determine punishment?
>Investigators were interviewing some 140 inmates, he said.
Of whom of course saw or heard nothing "unusal."
With a name like Chamberlain from south OC in a Santa Ana jail, a city which is about 80% illegal immigrants , chances are he was beaten to death because he didn't fit the gang profile or speak the language of the other prisoners, doubtful they even knew or cared anything else, or if some of them were guiltless of the same crime.
You don't know if he was a creep and you don't know if he was guilty of the charges against him...
What you wish on others will come back onto you... now that's poetic justice.
You are the creep.
That's an unpatriotic point of view. Our laws call for a public trial before the bench of justice. No trial, no justice.
What happened in that shower is called a lynching. If you're on the side of a lynch mob, you're not on my side. My side believes in justice under law.
The law is not established to protect the guilty man; it is established to protect the innocent man accused of a crime he did not commit. If we allow this sort of thing, then no one is safe. Who knows -- next time it may be you or me that finds himself accused but innocent, looking down the business end of a lynch-mob's "justice".
"They should be executed. He was "awaiting trial" on "suspicion". In our system we are INNOCENT until proven guilty.
I have a problem here folks. I in no way would miss a pedophile who was killed by inmates in a prison. However, let's play devils advocate for just one second. What if the charges against this guy were false? If you have paid attention to the news in the past few years many inmates have been freed after DNA test confirmed they were innocent of committing a rape (and in many cases after spending more than a decade in prison). People are falsely accused in our society, and all deserve their day in court (regardless of the charges against them). To celebrate the "murder" of someone awaiting trial is wrong. Consider what if that was you, and you had been falsely accused of some act of pedophilia? Would you want to be placed in that position? We do have a system of justice in which everyone is by constitutional amendment entitled to a fair trial. These comments supporting those who murdered this person are wrong.
Bump for a great post!
Americans are unique in their protection of rights to the individual.
Thank God for our founders for our Constitution and Bill of Rights. God Bless America and damn those who would sink the basic tenets of our freedom.
"You are the creep."
WOW! Name calling, that's an interesting turn.
The beliefs you've outlined on this thread are in direct conflict with those of the founding fathers.
When I read the comments here then I see how close we are to the end.
"on suspicion of possessing child pornography"
Some jerk owns your computer as part of his windows botnet. He plants the porn on your comp because, well, that's just the sort of person he is.
Some jerk owns your computer and uses it to download child pornography so that /he/ won't get caught.
You block-download everything on a usenet porn group. (morally reprehensible...but justifying capital retribution?) Someone had posted child pornography in the group, so now your guilty of acquisition and possession.
All this has happened before... please do tell how it is that *you* know he was guilty?
Not name calling... just stating an observation.
Pretty sad when the inmates in California are better at dispensing justice than the state courts
"Uh, "innocent until proven guilty" was still the law the last time I checked, friend."
The rule is also (or is it the law?) that only child pedophiles are to be executed at the hands of fellow inmates, not inmates charged on child pornography, which, btw, I agree.
Caveat: I'm no lawyer.
May be. Too bad we'll never know, because the FACTS were never established in the case. Maybe someone who hated his guts planted that stuff on him. Maybe he found it somewhere and didn't realize what it was. Maybe it was sent or given to him by mistake. It doesn't matter now. He's dead and he's going to stay dead whether he committed a crime or not.
Hypothetical: let's say someone who hates your guts mails you a copy of a kiddie porn magazine. You pick up the envelope at the post office, throw it in your car without opening it, and drive away on an errand. A few blocks away a cop stops you for a broken taillight, and, as you step out of the car, the envelope falls to the curb and breaks open, revealing the magazine. The cop cuffs you, drags you downtown, has you booked on kiddie porn charges, and you get thrown in the county lockup until the trial. After a few days, word gets around that you like to diddle kids. Not long after, you are surrounded in the shower by a crowd of inmates.
Question: do the inmates there have the right to beat you to death or not?
Which comments are you referring to?
The comments of one nutty poster?
Or the comments of the rest of us who realize his thoughts are those of an anarchist?
This man had not even been convicted but say he had... This prison justice isn't right. I'm not talking about criminals rights either. As far as I'm concerned , when we convict them, they have none, and belong to the state who is removing them from society. A responsibility goes with that too IMO. I'm all for isolation and letting them out one at a time for showers, exercise etc under direct supervision but it doesn't say much for society when prisoners are hurt or killed under our watch, esp when we cheer about it. It sounds too much like one of them.
Numerous people have been tried for possession of kiddie porn because it was on their computer. And later it was learned that their computer was hacked via the Internet and used to distribute porn without the owners knowledge.
All you have to do is be missing a critical security patch and no network firewall and your in big trouble.
I'm going to stick with trials.
"Pretty sad when the inmates in California are better at dispensing justice than the state courts"
In this case, they didn't have a chance.
Bingo. Remember this is the same state that has O.J. golfing in Florida, Michael Jackson opening a theme park in Ireland, Robert Blake planning a Little Rascals reunion and...this just handed to me... John Mark Karr roaming the streets. Does anybody in California get convicted???
Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?
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