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The truth about 'gay' pedophilia: Olivia St. John looks at research in light of Foley fiasco
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, October 7, 2006 | Olivia St. John

Posted on 10/07/2006 12:38:38 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Liberals are experts at framing debates in their favor. Since the Foley fiasco hit the news, the emphasis has been on evils lurking within the Republican Party.

Incredibly, political editor Brian E. Crowley of the Palm Beach Post opined, "Rumors that Foley is gay have swirled around him for years. … But on Friday, whether Foley was a homosexual or a heterosexual no longer seemed to matter."

Really? Why would that be considered inconsequential? Could it be because the Democrat Party embraces legalizing homosexual marriage and inserting homosexual material into public school textbooks designed for children as young as grammar school, as demonstrated in recent efforts by the California Legislature to indoctrinate students? That is the real story behind this media blitz that Democrats want Americans to miss.

While the leftist media focuses on the political ramifications surrounding Foley in an effort to gain points for liberal candidates in the upcoming election, the fact that a homosexual rather than a heterosexual preyed on a young male is being oddly overlooked. Few people are talking about it. And the question is "Why not?" The answer is important because to ignore it is to dismiss the real plight of many homosexuals today and their impact upon our culture, our children and our political scene.

Foley admits that he is a homosexual. Dare the question be asked whether homosexuals commit higher rates of molestation than heterosexuals do? Or are the thought police hard at work silencing the possible implications?

English professor Karla Jay, Ph.D., and well-educated journalist Allen Young, both homosexual activists, conducted the first major survey on homosexuality in America in 1979. Their work is still cited in academic studies and involved over 5,000 homosexuals from all walks of life. Titled "The Gay Report," the study published data on underage sex, disease, gross promiscuity, suicidal tendencies and more.

One cannot help but applaud the honesty of these two homosexuals in publishing the results of their study, which documented that "23 percent of respondents admitted to having had sex with youths aged 13-15, while 19 percent felt positive about sexual activity within this age group." Tragically, 50 percent of the males in their survey experienced their first sexual encounter at age 15 or less.

In spite of the fact that two gay researchers produced "The Gay Report," radical homosexual activists dismiss it as outdated. This is ironic considering they so often cite the much older 1948 "10 percent of society is gay" statistic from the oft-disputed Alfred Kinsey study.

But out of courtesy for their concerns, are there other esteemed elites drawing the same conclusions? Contrary to the homosexual assertion that heterosexual molestations outnumber those committed by homosexuals, Yale and Harvard-connected psychiatrist Jeffrey Satinover states that "careful studies show that pedophilia is far more common among homosexuals than heterosexuals." Satinover adds, "The greater absolute number of heterosexual cases reflects the fact that heterosexual males outnumber homosexual males by approximately 36 to 1. Heterosexual child molestation cases outnumber homosexual cases by only 11 to 1, implying that pedophilia is more than three times more common among homosexuals."

So considering the fact that this type of sexual interest is shown by studies to occur more often in homosexual populations, is it any surprise that Mark Foley admitted he himself was molested as a teenager by a clergyman?

According to a report by Gregory Rogers featured on the website for the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, such issues raise "immediate questions … should gay priests be allowed access to Sunday Schools or youth groups?" Instead of asking that question, however, the liberal cohorts shift the spotlight off the homosexuals themselves and onto the church as a whole, just as they're now doing with the Republicans even though they themselves have a stained record in this regard.

While pointing their fingers at Republicans, who may have overlooked gross evil while focusing on political gain, liberals overlook a tremendous evil themselves by ignoring the truth about homosexual behavior. They fail to speak out for the innocent children caught in the path of a rabid homosexual agenda fueled by wounded people who refuse to change.

The truth is that the majority of Republicans oppose same-sex marriage and the insertion of homosexual dogma into schools, while most Democrats support it.

As David Kupelian states in his groundbreaking best seller "The Marketing of Evil," "The end game is not only to bring about the complete acceptance of homosexuality, including same-sex marriage, but also to prohibit and even criminalize public criticism of homosexuality."

And all of this at the expense of our children.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; ephebophiles; homosexualagenda; liberals; oliviastjohn; pederast; pederasty; pedophiles
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To: JohnHuang2

This one's a keeper. Bookmarking...


41 posted on 10/07/2006 9:29:29 PM PDT by Antoninus (Attention GOP---Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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To: lormand

"23 percent of respondents admitted to having had sex with youths aged 13-15, while 19 percent felt positive about sexual activity within this age group." Tragically, 50 percent of the males in their survey experienced their first sexual encounter at age 15 or less."

Hey, I had sex with a youth of 14.. when I was 14. Guess that makes my first sexual encounter tragic, too.

Anyone have a copy of this report? This two sentence summary seems a bit.. superficial.


42 posted on 10/08/2006 8:07:15 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat; lormand

My post was directed to the article/all, not to you lormand.


43 posted on 10/08/2006 8:10:31 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: JohnHuang2

It is democrats who are the true hypocrites.


44 posted on 10/08/2006 8:13:46 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: JohnHuang2
Titled "The Gay Report," the study published data on underage sex, disease, gross promiscuity, suicidal tendencies and more.

One cannot help but applaud the honesty of these two homosexuals in publishing the results of their study, which documented that "23 percent of respondents admitted to having had sex with youths aged 13-15, while 19 percent felt positive about sexual activity within this age group." Tragically, 50 percent of the males in their survey experienced their first sexual encounter at age 15 or less.

OMG

45 posted on 10/08/2006 8:23:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Dems are bi - happy to flay the GOP as (a)uptight prudes or(b)pedophile enablers--Steyn)
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To: JohnHuang2

http://community.livejournal.com/gsa_lj/598942.html?view=6824606#t6824606

AGGGHH!! GET THEM!!


46 posted on 10/08/2006 7:04:39 PM PDT by dmayberry
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To: ivyleaguebrat; JohnHuang2; TAdams8591

I looked up some of her sources and looks like she's right on, man!

Looks like page numbers are cited and everything. It's for real.

http://www.narth.com/docs/reporton.html


47 posted on 10/08/2006 8:51:47 PM PDT by freeper_peeper
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To: GOPJ; freeper_peeper

The NARTH page didn't really answer my question.. I had sex with a youth of 14 when I was 14, so that makes my first sexual encounter "tragic" too. I'm just wondering if I would be applied to that percentage in their statistic.


48 posted on 10/09/2006 7:56:28 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat; GOPJ

That's a no brainer if you ask me. Kids shouldn't have sex whether they're heterosexual or confused in homosexuality. Anyone who thinks they should isn't too far from thinking like a pedophile would. (I'm not saying you're a ped, but you might think about what you're saying.)

All you have to do is look at how STDs and abortions have skyrocketed the last few decades to see a tragedy in the works.


49 posted on 10/09/2006 8:46:30 AM PDT by freeper_peeper
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To: freeper_peeper

Of course it's best if kids wait to have sex. I don't regret my experience, but I'd imagine the age of being "ready" varies widely person to person, perhaps even reaching the mid-20s.

However they imply a specific conclusion from a non-specific premise. The data says a significant proportion of gays have had sex with youths 13-15. The implication is that these are adults having sex with teens, but the statement doesn't specify.

The data says a large percentage of gays had their first sexual encounter when they were under 15. The implication is that this occured with an older person. The conclusion, by implication, is that there's a vicious cycle at work which is creating pedophiles.

But this conclusion isn't supported unless the data is actually more specific than the statement indicates.


50 posted on 10/09/2006 9:48:23 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

Read the full report.

It's real clear.

"The survey has since become a benchmark in this area and one of the largest of its kind ever conducted, with 5,000 gay persons of all ages and from all walks of life...."

Are you saying that the two homosexuals who did this study fudged figures?

That wouldn't make sense. And the study is well respected on top of that.

Even homosexuals agree it's valid.

"The work, further, was welcomed by voices within the gay community. Professor of Sociology and gay author Laud Humphreys insists, "all of us who are gay will find ourselves here" (cited in book jacket). Author Jane Rule asserts "This is not just a book of statistics; it is a book of voices, our voices." ibid."

There you have it. Homosexuals saying it was a great study.


51 posted on 10/09/2006 10:07:03 AM PDT by freeper_peeper
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To: freeper_peeper

Read my post again :). I'm not questioning the accuracy of the data or the study. I'm curious about the interpretation.


52 posted on 10/09/2006 10:18:12 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: freeper_peeper

Do you have a copy of the full report, btw?


53 posted on 10/09/2006 10:18:37 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

Keep your filthy, well thought-out, rational responses off this site, ivyleaguebrat!!


54 posted on 10/09/2006 10:40:18 AM PDT by dmayberry
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To: ivyleaguebrat

Since you brought yourself into the discussion, do you think you would today be a phychologically damaged dysfunctional pervert on prozac and in permanent lifetime therapy just if your partner had been 24 or 34 instead of the same age? (Excuse the question if you ARE a phychologically damaged dysfunctional pervert on prozac and in permanent lifetime therapy ;-)


55 posted on 10/09/2006 11:50:25 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I'm currently none of those things, but I think it'd be pretty impossible for anyone to answer that question so I don't think I'll try. The best we can do is empirical studies, I guess.

Your question outlines the obvious distinction between my situation and a situation of abuse, whereas it's not clear that this "gay report" makes that distinction. I'm trying to find out if it does.


56 posted on 10/09/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

One more: Is the other 14-year-old now a psychologically damaged dysfunctional pervert on prozac and in permanent lifetime therapy?


57 posted on 10/09/2006 5:09:44 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: ivyleaguebrat

One more: Is the other 14-year-old now a psychologically damaged dysfunctional pervert on prozac and in permanent lifetime therapy?


58 posted on 10/09/2006 5:11:23 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: JohnHuang2

I have always thought homosexuality is in a very large way, narcissistic, that the person is in love with a mirror image of him or her self, or what the person would like to be. If this is the case, the narcissism would be a huge hanicap in a monagamous relationship. The partner would seldom match up to expectations.


59 posted on 10/09/2006 5:20:42 PM PDT by Eva
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

If you mean the other person in my youthful experience; no. That person remains one of my best friends, and is a quite well adjusted person, engaged for marriage with another of my good friends.

If you have a point to make, I hope you'll make it.


60 posted on 10/09/2006 8:55:12 PM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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