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To: KsSunflower
If, because of that freedom , there is an occasional person who abuses it, I would prefer that to one where the service is so scheduled, managed, and controlled that the spirit is given no place to move.

Are you saying that in Baptist Churches the "the spirit is given no place to move?"

100 posted on 10/07/2006 9:49:20 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

I wouldn't want to hazard a generic label on ALL BAPTIST churches.

I don't even think Holy Spirit has a LOT of freedom in ALL AoG churches . . . and virtually none in far too many of them.

I think Baptist churches can be very STUCK on the plan of Salvation and other beginning stages of Christianity and their choir and the tidy little boxed ways of doing things.

But, there's probably a place for such churches. Just most of them seem overly stereotypic and sterile, to me. But, so are far too many A of G and other older Pentecostal groups and congregations. I think RELIGION and stagnation sets in about a year and a half into a groups existence. And, that it takes a lot to keep things freshly responsive to Holy Spirit regardless of the flavor of the congregation vis a vis overt Holy Spirit operations or not.

Thankfully, God's Word doesn't return void and in solid preaching of The Word, there must be SOME Holy Spirit involvement MOST of the time IN MOST remotely healthy groups.

But in lots of groups, it seems to me that Holy Spirit may have walked away in sadness over being quenched and rejected routinely.

After all, the order of service is in the bulletin and we CAN'T deviate from THAT HOLY WRIT! Sigh.


102 posted on 10/07/2006 9:58:24 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Jorge
Are you saying that in Baptist Churches the "the spirit is given no place to move?"

I wouldn't classify a church denominationally necessarily. I am saying that if a pastor, of any demonination, is determined to follow his service order, whatever that might be, and diminish the importance of a church as described in I Corinthians 12-14, and restricts the opportunity for the Holy Spirit to work through and in the congregation outside of the prescribed "sermon", that is not the kind of church in which I would choose to worship. Sorry...I know that is kind of a run on...

108 posted on 10/07/2006 10:05:20 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: Jorge

I recall the Apostle Paul saying, "let all things be done decently and IN ORDER."


224 posted on 10/08/2006 6:53:58 PM PDT by evangmlw ("God Is Definitely Conservative")
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