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Foley, Gay Republicans, And "The List"
CBS News - Public EYE ^ | 10.05.06 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 10/07/2006 1:35:46 PM PDT by rface

On Tuesday night's "Evening News," Gloria Borger said this:

"One senior House Republican tells CBS that there's a lot of anger at what he describes as 'a network of gay staffers and gay members who protect each other and did the speaker a disservice.'"

The New Republic's Michael Crowley picks up on Borger's comment. He argues that "it's becoming clear that some people on Capitol Hill are promoting a storyline that involves gay Republican staffers--apparently led by [Tom Reynolds's chief of staff Kirk] Fordham--covering up for Mark Foley." Crowley suggests "maybe this is how Dennis Hastert and his compatriots are explaining themselves to the base."

He also notes David Corn's report on "The List" – a document being passed around political circles of high-level Republican congressional aides who are gay.

Corn, a liberal, says he will not publish The List, even though he has a copy. Here's his conclusion:

Let's be clear about one thing: the Mark Foley scandal is not about homosexuality. Some family value conservatives are suggesting it is. But anytime a gay Republican is outed by events, a dicey issue is raised: what about those GOPers who are gay and who serve a party that is anti-gay? Are they hypocrites, opportunists, or just confused individuals? Is it possible to support a party because you adhere to most of its tenets--even if that party refuses to recognize you as a full citizen? The men on The List might want to think hard about these questions--as they probably already have--for if I have a copy of The List, there's a good chance it will be appearing soon on a website near everyone......

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The List: (found on the left of the link, part way down...)

THE LIST

Operating since July of 2004, telling you the truth about hypocrisy in the gov't.

US Representatives

Rep. Ed Schrock (VA)
Rep. David Drier (CA)
Rep. James McCrery (LA)
Rep. Mark Foley (FL)
.

US Senators.
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Sen Barbara Mikulski (MD)
.

Senior GOP Staff
.
Jay Timmons, NRSC
Dan Gurley, RNC
Jay Banning, RNC
.

Senior Senate Staffers
.
Robert Traynham, Santorum
Jonathan Tolman, Inhofe
Kirk Fordham, Martinez
Dirk Smith, Lott
John Reid, Allen
Paul Unger, Allen
Linus Catignani, Frist
.

Senior House Staffers
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Jim Conzelman, Oxley
Lee Cohen, Hart
Robert O'Conner, King
Pete Meachum, Brown-Waite
.

Bush Staff
.
Israel Hernandez
Jeff Berkowitz
.

Local Officials
.
Vincent Gentile, NYC
.

The rest...
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Ed Koch, NYC Mayor
Jennifer Helms-Knox, Judge
Armstrong Williams, Radio host
Matt Drudge, Headline writer
Steve Kreseski, MD Gov.
Chip DiPaula, MD Gov.
Lee LaHaye, CWA
John Schlafley, Eagle Forum


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; thelist
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To: mariabush

Every gay person I know is a Republican. It's a small number, but still....


21 posted on 10/07/2006 1:49:23 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Rastus
....but you better not support things like gay adoption or gay marriage. That's all I care about.

That pretty much sums it up.

22 posted on 10/07/2006 1:50:21 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: mariabush

Gays need to come out of the closet and admit they love Republicans.


23 posted on 10/07/2006 1:52:25 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs
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To: All

I, for one, would like to know everything about everybody who is gay...not that there's anything wrong with that.


24 posted on 10/07/2006 1:53:16 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: rface

So why is Barbara Mikulski, a Democrat on it?


25 posted on 10/07/2006 1:53:25 PM PDT by x
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To: rface
Is this a list of gays who are not "out" yet. Or a list of Republicans who are not "out?" If so, what is Barbara Mikulski doing on the list?
26 posted on 10/07/2006 1:54:07 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: rface

I really wish that list would disappear. Not because I'm mad that someone is on it. Can't say I'm really surprised by most of them and I notice a couple missing.

But, it is absolutely no one's right to out someone before they out themselves. It disgusts me. It is a very personal decision that involves many factors and a person needs to be mentally ready for the after affects of coming out.


27 posted on 10/07/2006 1:54:09 PM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: cripplecreek

It's the Dims who have a problem with Gays. That's the conclusion I've come to.


28 posted on 10/07/2006 1:54:55 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: rface
Hmm... so Allen has two in his staff

John Reid, Allen Paul Unger, Allen

Hmmm... I don't like this

29 posted on 10/07/2006 1:54:56 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: jennyjenny

With everything that has happened concerning Foley, i thought the Democrats were the "party of tolerance." The media, in my opinion, has performed a hell of a lot of gay bashing. Hypocrisy, anyone?


30 posted on 10/07/2006 1:55:24 PM PDT by xc1427
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To: rface
David Corn says..."Let's be clear about one thing: the Mark Foley scandal is not about homosexuality."

It isn't?

The case certainly does involve a good deal of hypocrisy, though. The entire Democratic stance can be distilled to this - "We get to bash gays if they're Republicans." It's that simple.

31 posted on 10/07/2006 1:55:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mariabush

I know a gay couple that have been completely shunned by many of their gay friends when it was discovered they were Republican.


32 posted on 10/07/2006 1:55:49 PM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: rface

When did Mikulski become a Republican? I missed that amazing event!


33 posted on 10/07/2006 1:55:58 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: rface

My prediction is that this will backfire. It's said that Pelosi is absolutely against releasing this list and there is a very good reason for that. If there's one thing gay people hate worse than a Republican against gay marriage it's someone who outs homosexuals against their will.

The left is not only ignorant about conservatives and what drives them to vote, they are also evidently ignorant about what makes non-radical gays angry.

The moral of this story......Liberals are ignorant, PERIOD.


34 posted on 10/07/2006 1:56:09 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: rface

I think the point of the list is closeted gays.


35 posted on 10/07/2006 1:56:48 PM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: rface
Sen Barbara Mikulski (MD)

Anyone in DC who isn't blind as a bat knows she is a bull lesbian. It is even known that she prefers pretty skinny blonde women (I guess she likes the opposite of what she is).

What is ridiculous about this "List" is that it does not mention so many others who are homosexual (bi or otherwise). For instance, the person standing next to Sen Mikulski below.


36 posted on 10/07/2006 1:57:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: x

hmmmmm - maybe the list are those that are gay - but vote against gay marriage or stuff like that. I don't know.


37 posted on 10/07/2006 1:58:34 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface
Sen Barbara Mikulski (MD)

Gee, I never would have guessed. /sarcsam

Interesting that the Dems have become the new gay bashers. Oh my!

38 posted on 10/07/2006 1:58:42 PM PDT by veronica
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To: bnelson44

Barb Mikulski is a repub ?


39 posted on 10/07/2006 1:58:50 PM PDT by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: CremeSaver

Probably their idea of balance.


40 posted on 10/07/2006 1:59:33 PM PDT by Rastus
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