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N. Korea - Blast Site: 129.10 40.81; Blast Strength: 550 Tons of TNT
Chosun Ilbo ^ | 10/09/06

Posted on 10/08/2006 10:13:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

3.58 in Richter Scale

Time: 10:35Am, Oct. 9, 2006


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: korea; nkorea; northkorea; nucleartest; ronery; teamamerica
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1 posted on 10/08/2006 10:13:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Damn, F'ing STUPID.


2 posted on 10/08/2006 10:13:59 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


3 posted on 10/08/2006 10:14:31 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

so are you saying NK faked a nuclear test?


4 posted on 10/08/2006 10:15:13 PM PDT by balch3
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That is a small one.


5 posted on 10/08/2006 10:15:17 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Danae
Wait a minute, that might have just gotten the Republicans re-elected, cause as God is my WITNESS, Lil' Kim is Bill Clinton and the Democrats doing.

Be singing that song all day Monday!
6 posted on 10/08/2006 10:15:25 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
My kids want to know how many M-80's it would take to match this type of explosion.

I said some Freeper would know.

7 posted on 10/08/2006 10:15:40 PM PDT by zarf
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-10-09T042218Z_01_L08141538_RTRUKOC_0_US-KOREA-NORTH.xml&src=rss&rpc=22


North Korea says conducted nuclear test
Mon Oct 9, 2006 12:22 AM ET



By Jack Kim

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said on Monday it had safely and successfully carried out an underground nuclear test in a gesture of defiance as Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe arrived in South Korea.

"The nuclear test was conducted with indigenous wisdom and technology 100 percent," North Korea's Korean Central News Agency said.

"It marks a historic event as it greatly encouraged and pleased the KPA (Korean People's Army) and people that have wished to have powerful self-reliant defense capability."

The report said there was no leak or danger from the test.

The U.N. Security Council last Friday urged North Korea not to carry out a test, warning Pyongyang of unspecified consequences if it did.

The dollar rose to a seven-month high against the yen after the reports but analysts did not expect long-term fallout unless the situation deteriorated further.

"The economy of North Korea is virtually closed from the rest of the world and its regional impact won't be very significant unless there was a major military confrontation," said Wang Qing, an economist at Bank of America in Hong Kong.

South Korea's presidential Blue House said a tremor of magnitude 3.58 to 3.7 had been detected in North Korea at 0135 GMT on Monday.

However, the U.S. Geological Survey said it had detected no seismic activity such as might be expected from a nuclear test on the Korean peninsula within the past 48 hours.

Abe, speaking in Seoul after arriving from an ice-breaking visit to Beijing, also said Japan had no confirmation of a test by North Korea.

A U.S. official said North Korea gave China a 20-minute warning of its test and China immediately told the United States, Japan and South Korea.

Officials in China had no immediate comment.

SECURITY MEETING IN SEOUL

In South Korea, President Roh Moo-hyun was holding an emergency meeting of top security officials at the Blue House following the announcement.

Tokyo backs a hard line toward Pyongyang, while Seoul and Beijing -- leery of instability on the peninsula -- have previously cautioned against backing the North into a corner.

However, all three agree that Pyongyang should end its nearly year-long boycott of six-country talks on ending its nuclear weapons program.

North Korea announced last week it would test a nuclear device saying its hand was forced by what it called U.S. threats of nuclear war and economic sanctions. But it said it would not be the first to use a nuclear weapon.

Analysts say North Korea probably has enough fissile material to make six to eight nuclear bombs but probably does not have the technology to devise one small enough to mount on a missile.






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8 posted on 10/08/2006 10:15:47 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Uh, Fox is already reporting 4.2 on the Richeter scale. Also, the tons seems way too low. Sorry, not buying this report.


9 posted on 10/08/2006 10:15:55 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: jveritas

Assuming that report has any validity to it whatsoever.


10 posted on 10/08/2006 10:16:39 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: jveritas
If it was only 550 tons, then the test was almost a total fizzle.

That's only .55 kilotons.

11 posted on 10/08/2006 10:17:44 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That's small. How does that compare to the 9-11 explosions caused by 767 and 757 collisions into buildings?


12 posted on 10/08/2006 10:18:51 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: COEXERJ145

It doesn't meld with what US "sources" have been telling FOX and others. They seem to indicate between 3 and 5 kiltons. That's why I'm very suspicious about this report.


13 posted on 10/08/2006 10:19:08 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Like I posted, its a fake to consolidate Kim Jong's power. He is nearing death and wants to make a legacy and a son that can continue his power. This is the small bang that supercedes his wimper.


14 posted on 10/08/2006 10:19:17 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: struggle

Sorry, it's not fake.


15 posted on 10/08/2006 10:19:51 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Time: 10:35Am, Oct. 9, 2006

What time was that eastcoast USA?


16 posted on 10/08/2006 10:19:55 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, who are you electing?)
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To: NinoFan
I am too but we'll just have to wait and see.

Even 3-5 kilotons is very small. I still think they got a partial fizzle.

17 posted on 10/08/2006 10:20:09 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
3.58 in Richter Scale Time: 10:35Am, Oct. 9, 2006

It's time to send Jung Il to " Kimgdom Come"!

18 posted on 10/08/2006 10:20:25 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

Ping!


19 posted on 10/08/2006 10:21:19 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

38% on CNN's poll think NK has a right to conduct nuke test. Cute.
http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/27739.exclude.html


20 posted on 10/08/2006 10:21:25 PM PDT by Third Order
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I would be very careful about taking these numbers as gospel.


21 posted on 10/08/2006 10:23:26 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: jveritas

"That is a small one."

Yes, it is.


22 posted on 10/08/2006 10:23:35 PM PDT by stultorum (dont hire illegal aliens)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hell, I'm still pist at the Rosenburgs!!! If it hadden't been for those "Liberals" we probably wouldn't have any Atomic Commies to this day!!!

Liberals think the United States and her people should just give EVERYTHING AWAY and NEVER have anything kept secret for the good of all mankind!!!

I think that pretty obviously sucks as of today, don't you???

23 posted on 10/08/2006 10:23:45 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: MaineVoter2002

9:35 PM Sunday ?


24 posted on 10/08/2006 10:23:59 PM PDT by msnimje (Democratic Leftists are nothing like LIBERAL. They are intolerant and intellectual cowards.)
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To: NinoFan

I still doubt it. I think it was leading up to this, perhaps as a deadline with Tehran, and he had to show something.

This is a fake, until there are some nuclear signatures. A nuke underground has to show something, unless they buried the bomb deep underground with no interest in research or supervision, just to blow it up. The bomb blew up near the surface - at least that latest seismogram says less than a kilo under, so their should be some venting or SOMETHING.


25 posted on 10/08/2006 10:24:18 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Third Order

That says plenty about CNN's viewership.


26 posted on 10/08/2006 10:24:23 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: COEXERJ145

Agree it is quite small, but I think little Kim has sealed his fate. President Bush will take him out before he leaves office in January 2009.


27 posted on 10/08/2006 10:24:33 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: COEXERJ145
If it was only 550 tons, then the test was almost a total fizzle.

How so?

It seems to me, just thinking logically, that the purpose of the test is to make sure the system works. The triggering or firing mechanisms and such that create the explosion. Once they have that system correct, making the bomb larger should be easier then creating it in the first place.

Where is my logic flawed?

28 posted on 10/08/2006 10:24:39 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Liberals would let Mark Foley be a Boy Scout leader.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Don't jump in thinking that its fake... it takes lots of computing power and testing to get these things to explode efficiently... lets just be happy that it looks like they are taking a conservative approach to it and not jumping right in trying to crack the earth in 1/2..


29 posted on 10/08/2006 10:24:47 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Danae
Lil' Kim is Bill Clinton and the Democrats doing.

You could have fooled me.


30 posted on 10/08/2006 10:25:42 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

Whaaaaat I Do Nuting Wong! Just Wittle Test!!!


31 posted on 10/08/2006 10:26:34 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Korea is 13 hours ahead of the EST, so it was 9:35 PM our EST time.


32 posted on 10/08/2006 10:27:16 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Michael.SF.
550 tons is smaller than any primary I've ever heard of being tested. Yes it is a proof of concept but it a fairly worthless as a weapon. If they wanted to make a big statement it would have been much larger.

That said, I don't think it was 550 tons. I suspect around 4kt.

33 posted on 10/08/2006 10:28:51 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jet Jaguar; All

Put this JUST DAMN catagory Tiger


34 posted on 10/08/2006 10:28:55 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: cpforlife.org

CHIA PETTTT are you still roaney?????


35 posted on 10/08/2006 10:29:34 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sounds like a fizzle to me..............


36 posted on 10/08/2006 10:31:15 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Third Order
38% on CNN's poll think NK has a right to conduct nuke test.

No surprise there. 100% of CNN management and staff probably think that Little Kim has a right to nuke the White House if Bush happened to be inside it.

37 posted on 10/08/2006 10:33:32 PM PDT by epow ("An unarmed man can only flee evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." ...Jeff Cooper)
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To: SevenofNine

yeees CHIA still wevy roaney!


38 posted on 10/08/2006 10:34:07 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

With respect, could "550 tons" be a typo? That's about 1/20th the yield of the Hiroshima bomb.


39 posted on 10/08/2006 10:34:14 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Natalie Maines fears me...)
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To: COEXERJ145
Yes it is a proof of concept but it a fairly worthless as a weapon

Then if they were testing the concept and it did explode, then the test was not a failure.

40 posted on 10/08/2006 10:34:43 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Liberals would let Mark Foley be a Boy Scout leader.)
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Listening to Art Bell. I don't like all the tin foil and UFO garbage they do, but he has some good military guests and tonight he's got two experts on Korea and the Military situation.
41 posted on 10/08/2006 10:34:43 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I just saw a report on CNN International that blames President Bush for this. They put a timeline on the screen that says:

JANUARY 2002:
President Bush branded North Korea as part of an "axis of evil"

OCTOBER 2002:
North Korea was discovered to be secretly enriching uranium... a violation of an agreement with the US


In other words, that cowboy Bush scared Kim into developing nukes because he thought President Bush would invade North Korea just like Afghanistan and Iraq. I know, it completely ignores all sortsa stuff but what do you expect?


42 posted on 10/08/2006 10:34:51 PM PDT by james500
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To: zarf
"My kids want to know how many M-80's it would take to match this type of explosion"

4 /m-80 will equal a stick of dynamite. look up the conversion to tnt and it should be easy to figure it out.
43 posted on 10/08/2006 10:35:43 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Demonrats want the Gays out of Congress.....stand back and let them purge their base.)
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To: doorgunner69
Sounds like a fizzle to me..............

Or a very bad atomic (not nuclear) device. Or a typo.

44 posted on 10/08/2006 10:35:43 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Natalie Maines fears me...)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I think it's just bad information. I'll be very surprised if it turns out to be that low.


45 posted on 10/08/2006 10:36:20 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: cpforlife.org; TigerLikesRooster; All

I got good idea how about invitating Chia Pet to Hollywood maybe get Sean Penn or MATT DAMONNN to start in movie together maybe sequel to Team AMerica LOL!

HEY Sean need the role I too unfortunate saw his remake of All King men IT SUCKS


46 posted on 10/08/2006 10:36:28 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Michael.SF.
A fizzle isn't a failure. It is simply a device that did not go off at full yield.

Based on my knowledge of nuclear weapons, I suspect they were going for something in the 20-50 kiloton range but the bomb only went off at a fraction of that.

47 posted on 10/08/2006 10:36:29 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Michael.SF.

Well, the Trinity device was 20-21 Kt. 550 T is small by any measure, although if it were a nuclear test still notable.


48 posted on 10/08/2006 10:36:39 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Where is my logic flawed?

Because they could easily fired off a "gun" type U235 device to show they were a "nuklar" power. There is no useful demonstration of a "triggering device" that anyone other than the monitoring engineers would be aware of.

49 posted on 10/08/2006 10:37:14 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: cpforlife.org

Hey Little Kim you call this little test?

OH HELL NO


50 posted on 10/08/2006 10:37:31 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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