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Exploring Christopher Columbus--Was he a great man or a racist oppressor?
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | October 9, 2006 | Tom Purcell

Posted on 10/09/2006 7:30:56 AM PDT by SJackson

"Dad, why does America celebrate Columbus Day?"

"Well, Billy, in 1492, Christopher Columbus sailed from Europe to America and founded the very first settlement in the New World. His arrival marks the beginning of America as we know it."

"But didn't he discover America by accident, dad?"

"Columbus believed the Earth was a sphere. He thought he could reach the Far East by setting off on a westward course. Though he stumbled upon what is now the Bahamas by accident, he was still a great explorer and a great man, Billy."

"A great man, dad, or a racist oppressor?"

"Pardon me, son?"

"When Columbus came to America, he brought with him the greed of the white European males who subsequently colonized America for the dough. They fought and killed the Indigenous Peoples who were already here and took their land and their gold. Columbus eventually died a very rich man."

"Well, Billy, an unfortunate part of human history involves countries invading their neighbors to take control. This has happened in many parts of the world, including Europe, which has a long history of war. But remember that Indigenous Peoples were also prone to war and fighting to expand their control well before Europeans arrived."

"Well, Columbus is also responsible for many germs and diseases that Europeans brought to America, causing untold suffering and death among the people who were here before us."

"Have you been drinking too much caffeine lately, Billy?"

"America's history of environmental destruction can also be laid at Columbus' feet, dad. As soon as the Europeans colonized America's pristine lands, they cut down the trees and plowed up the fields. Can you say soil erosion, dad?"

"Son, did I ever tell you that you take after your mother's side?"

"And what about slavery? It was the Europeans who created a flourishing slave trade in America. They did it to develop the land cheaply, so they could make giant profits. Columbus even made slaves out of some of the Indigenous Peoples who attacked him and his men."

"Son, do you remember where your mother hid the bourbon?"

"I'll tell you another thing, dad. Some people believe the only reason we even celebrate Columbus Day is because he was Italian, and the day is also a celebration of Italian heritage. Some believe that when FDR made Columbus Day official in 1934, he did so not just because Columbus discovered the New World, but because Italian immigrants in America represented millions of votes."

"Look, Billy, there are a lot of ways to look at what Christopher Columbus symbolizes. You can focus on the negative attributes, and there are some, or you can do what America has been doing for many years now: focus on the positive."

"Positive, dad?"

"Sure, Billy. Columbus represents the spirit of exploration, the spirit of pushing forward into the great unknown to find greater and better things. This has always been the spirit of America, the land of innovation and new ideas."

"What kind of ideas, dad?"

"How about the ideas of freedom and self-government, Billy? After Columbus opened a gateway to the New World, other European countries established colonies here, too. Eventually, some amazing historical figures would evolve in North America. They would create and fight for a way of life that has proved to be extremely successful - their ideas are still spreading and changing the world for the better."

"Really, dad?"

"Yes, son. The concept of freedom has taken root so solidly in America that people are free to criticize or praise anything, including whether or not Christopher Columbus was a hero or an ogre, or whether or not Columbus Day should still be celebrated in America. Now, do you have any other questions about history?"

"Sure, dad. Was Benjamin Franklin really a predatory male chauvinist womanizer?"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; blameamericafirst; christophercolumbus; columbus; columbusday; deadwhitemales; explorer; pc; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; race; racial; racism; racist; racists; revisionisthistory

1 posted on 10/09/2006 7:30:57 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

It is amazing how differently the left and right view America.


2 posted on 10/09/2006 7:34:23 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Dont let Tony Sopranos crew see this article!!!


3 posted on 10/09/2006 7:38:35 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SJackson

LMAO!


4 posted on 10/09/2006 7:40:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: SJackson

For some reason, this always brings to mind the Bugs Bunny version of events where Columbus and King Ferdinand speak with stereotypic Italian and Mexican accents, respectively, and Queen Isabella says, in Mae West's voice, "Oh, Chris ... if you discover the New World, I'll give you my jewels."


5 posted on 10/09/2006 7:43:28 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: SJackson
Were the Carib's cannibals?

Did the Aztecs practice human sacrifice?

Was Meso-American cultural development hopelessly stalled?
6 posted on 10/09/2006 7:43:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: SJackson

Check out Ice Age Columbus on the Discovery channel.


7 posted on 10/09/2006 7:44:19 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Of course it's hot, it's summer!)
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To: SJackson
Regardless of how he's viewed, there's no getting around the fact that Columbus was a mediocre explorer at best.

He actually thought he had reached the East Indies when he landed in the New World, which means his estimate for the size of the globe was off by thousands of miles.

8 posted on 10/09/2006 7:47:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: SJackson
What did Columbus have to say about his discovery of America? We will let his words tell you the truth:

"It was the Lord who put into my mind (I could feel his hand upon me) the fact that it would be possible to sail from here to the Indies. All who heard of my project rejected it with laughter, ridiculing me....

There is no question that the inspiration was from the Holy Spirit, because He comforted me with rays of marvelous inspiration from the Holy Scriptures....

I said that I would state my reasons: I hold alone to the sacred and Holy Scriptures, and to the interpretations of prophecy given by certain devout persons....

I am a most unworthy sinner, but I have cried out to the Lord for grace and mercy, and they have covered me completely. I have found the sweetest consolation since I made it my whole purpose to enjoy His marvelous presence. For the execution of the journey to the Indies, I did not make use of intelligence, mathematics or maps. It is simply the fulfillment of what Isaiah had prophesied....

No one should fear to undertake any task in the name of our Saviour, if it is just and if the intention is purely for His holy service. The working out of all things has been assigned to each person by the Lord, but it all happens according to His sovereign will, even though he gives advice. He lacks nothing that it is in the power of men to give Him. Oh, what a gracious Lord, who desires that people should perform for Him those things which He holds Himself responsible! Day and night, moment by moment, everyone should express the most devoted gratitude to Him."

Libro de las profecias (Columbus' Book of Prophecies)
9 posted on 10/09/2006 7:49:30 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: SJackson
Great story about a former slave named Christopher Columbus:
Former Slave's Family Sees Him Honored At Last [FR]
10 posted on 10/09/2006 7:51:24 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: SJackson
"...Indigenous Peoples who were already here and took their land and their gold."

All was not peaceful in this hemisphere and the indifenous peoples' warred with one another, taking their land, their gold, and indoctrinating them in the new religious faith.

11 posted on 10/09/2006 7:54:38 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: SJackson
Two of my teenagers informed me last Friday after school that Columbus was a rapist.

Their nitwit English teacher at the Catholic high school sold it to them. That is, until I got a hold of them.

Cordially,

12 posted on 10/09/2006 7:55:59 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Alberta's Child

"Columbus was a mediocre explorer at best."

In those days, if you came back alive, you were a great explorer.


13 posted on 10/09/2006 7:56:13 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: ChiTownBearFan

There's some reasonably credible evidence that Columbus wasn't Italian at all, but Catalan.


14 posted on 10/09/2006 7:57:22 AM PDT by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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To: Diamond

Has this same teacher bother to tell the students that Bill Clinton was also credibly accused of being a serial rapist?


15 posted on 10/09/2006 7:58:12 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Strategerist
There's some reasonably credible evidence that Columbus wasn't Italian at all, but Catalan.

According to the girls, his hands were Roman.

16 posted on 10/09/2006 8:02:25 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: SJackson
Read Orson Scott Card's "Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus" for a great take on the topic.

(He's a proud Democrat, but he's got a great mind, and is unafraid to call the Dems out on their failures and hypocrisies.)


17 posted on 10/09/2006 8:06:20 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Alberta's Child
He actually thought he had reached the East Indies when he landed in the New World, which means his estimate for the size of the globe was off by thousands of miles.

Since most of the rest of the world's populace had the same expectations at the time (and many of those with other ideas still thought the world was flat), it's hard to fault him for that misconception.

18 posted on 10/09/2006 8:09:20 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

Very few people in the 15th century with even a rudimentary understanding of basic science still believed that the earth was flat. The shape of the earth was pretty well established by that time, and the Greek mathematician Eratosthenes had made a pretty accurate estimate of the earth's circumference as far back as about 200 B.C., which means Columbus' "science" was out of date by about 1,700 years.


19 posted on 10/09/2006 8:18:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: SJackson
Reminds me of a cartoon featuring Christopher Columbus being interviewed by Larry King.

Larry: "Rape, disease, slavery. What do you say for yourself Chris?
Chris: "I'm-a just an explorer!"
Larry: "They say you destroyed an indigenous people."
Chris: "All I wanna' do is prove the world, she a-round, like an egg!"

20 posted on 10/09/2006 8:18:53 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: weegee
They were both governors, but of the two, as far as I know, only Bill Clinton was a rapist. Sounds like a good suggestion for a friendly email request to the teacher to cut out the Marxist claptrap and stick to English. Thanks.

Cordially,

21 posted on 10/09/2006 8:19:01 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Chi-townChief

...then came the moment when Bugs thought he had hit land first, when he hears Columbus say from on top of the rock,

"Hey, Bugsa Bunny...! WHOOZA discover da America!?"

Anyway, I remember the 1992 protests here in Columbia, SC. Really goofy people. BTW, who was the state assemblyman that year who denounced Columbus, denounced English as an imperialistic language, and so he delivered the rest of his address....in SPANISH!!


22 posted on 10/09/2006 8:19:20 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: SJackson

Both.


23 posted on 10/09/2006 8:20:50 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: SJackson
"Columbus eventually died a very rich man."

From what I heard, Colombus died in prison, believing himself to be a failure.
24 posted on 10/09/2006 8:20:59 AM PDT by Chewie84
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To: Chi-townChief

I remember Flip Wilson's version where Queen Isabella sounds alot like Geraldine and is very happy that "Chris gonna find Ray Charles."


25 posted on 10/09/2006 8:21:30 AM PDT by carton253 (He who would kill you, get up early and kill him first.)
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To: BenLurkin

I think the phrase you're looking for is Neo-Lithic.


26 posted on 10/09/2006 8:26:27 AM PDT by massgopguy ((I owe everything to George Bailey))
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To: SJackson

For an interesting take on Columbus, read "Pastwatch: the Redemption of Christopher Columbus", by Orson Scott Card. Nifty alternate-history sci-fi novel.


27 posted on 10/09/2006 8:31:30 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: SJackson; A. Pole

Mexicans celebrate Columbus Day as Dia de la Raza, because of the origin of the Mexican mestizo people:

http://www.elbalero.gob.mx/kids/about/html/holidays/race_kids.html

Whether we are Mexican, Italian, or just plain American, we all can celebrate the postive things that Columbus brought to us. We can also acknowledge the negative things (as well as how many of them have been overcome with time) without being overwhelmed by them.

It is time for all of us to stop following the dictates of the poobahs of the politically correct, the feminazis, the Christian-haters, and other radical-liberal censors. These miscreants bear a disproportionate responsibility for the continuing erosion of our civilization, and we would all be better off if we'd stop giving them free rein!!!!


28 posted on 10/09/2006 8:31:59 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 6SJ7

lol


29 posted on 10/09/2006 8:34:29 AM PDT by brwnsuga
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To: SouthTexas

Ice Age Columbus was excellent. Of course, the left won't like that a Quarter of American Indians have been found to have European blood from the line of Europeans who really were the first to discover America. The next line of thinking will be how "we" oppressed the Woolly Mammoth, Sabre Tooth Tiger, and Short-faced Bear into extinction.


30 posted on 10/09/2006 8:35:39 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: SJackson

Who cares?


31 posted on 10/09/2006 8:37:52 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Chewie84
Columbus was imprisoned at one point, but was not in prison at the time of his death.

If Columbus had never sailed, the coast of South America would have been discovered in 1500 anyway (it was seen by Pedro Cabral on his way to India) so the New World would not have remained unknown to Europeans much longer.

32 posted on 10/09/2006 8:41:51 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SJackson; blam; SunkenCiv

Good Grief!

33 posted on 10/09/2006 8:44:56 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

He was both. Contrast that with Senator Byrd... :')


34 posted on 10/09/2006 8:50:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SJackson

alas:

Exploring Columbus (Great Man or Racist Oppressor?)
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review | October 9, 2005 | Tom Purcell
Posted on 10/09/2005 9:38:56 PM EDT by RWR8189
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1499666/posts


35 posted on 10/09/2006 8:54:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Morality and Columbus Day: Another View
Lew Rockwell | 10/7/03 | Tom Woods
Posted on 10/07/2003 4:54:41 PM EDT by traditionalist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/996925/posts

Cornell Leftists Trash Columbus/America (City of Evil Alert)
FrontPage Magazine | October 14, 2003 AD | Joseph J. Sabia
Posted on 10/16/2003 9:35:42 PM EDT by jigsaw
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1002642/posts

Yecke takes a drubbing over Columbus comments
The Star Tribune | 11/11/03 | Norman Draper
Posted on 11/11/2003 2:11:54 PM EST by Solson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1019475/posts

State Plays Orwellian with Columbus
FrontPage Magazine | 8/26/04 | Robert Spencer
Posted on 08/28/2004 6:13:16 PM EDT by wagglebee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1201919/posts

The Crimes of Christopher Columbus
First Things and other sources | November, 1995
Posted on 10/11/2004 7:44:09 PM EDT by Coleus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1242074/posts

but if Christopher had been Christine...

Queen Isabella: Evangelizer of the New World
Columbia | November 2004 | Cardinal Luis Aponte Martinez
Posted on 11/11/2004 12:46:57 AM EST by Coleus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1277048/posts


36 posted on 10/09/2006 9:14:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ohioman
It sure will get their panties in a wad won't it?
37 posted on 10/09/2006 9:18:55 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Of course it's hot, it's summer!)
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To: weegee
Has this same teacher bothered to tell the students that Bill Clinton was also credibly accused of being a serial rapist?

And, according to his brother, a heavy cocaine user. Of course, no one would call him a traitor for giving our nuclear technology, super computers to make use of it, and advanced missile guidance systems to Communist China for campaign cash. Nah, nothing traitorous there.

George Bush and Christopher Columbus are the bad guys. And Congressmen Foley and Hastert, of course.

38 posted on 10/09/2006 9:38:28 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: ohioman
>>>>"The next line of thinking will be how "we" oppressed the Woolly Mammoth, Sabre Tooth Tiger, and Short-faced Bear into extinction"<<<<

You left out the Neanderthals and the one eyed spotted newt minnow

TT
39 posted on 10/09/2006 1:02:02 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Alberta's Child
"Columbus was a mediocre explorer at best. "
Well, for his times he was OK. Magellan he was not, but for his times I'd say he was a solid B+.
40 posted on 10/09/2006 2:56:56 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Alberta's Child
Columbus was a mediocre explorer at best.

The guy that opened up the entire western hemisphere to civilization was mediocre? Few sailors today would venture to sail his three crude 15th century "ships" across Lake Erie. He was an incredibly intellectual merchant who studied the east Atlantic climate, currents and bet big on finding land to the west.

41 posted on 10/09/2006 3:45:29 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Those who risk nothing easily fault those who risk all.)
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To: SJackson
I don't care for these "Dear Son / Dad" type formats. But this one is on the mark.
42 posted on 10/09/2006 3:47:19 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: weegee
And there is pretty good evidence that THEY slaughtered other that they found here before them, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
43 posted on 10/09/2006 3:52:39 PM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Son: "Dad, why does America celebrate Columbus Day?"

Dad: "America doesn't, son. It only seems like it because so many people work for the USPS."

Son: "Thanks Dad! You da man.".

...& the kid has a PhD. ;^)

44 posted on 10/09/2006 3:52:40 PM PDT by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

"Of course, no one would call him a traitor for giving our nuclear technology, super computers to make use of it, and advanced missile guidance systems to Communist China for campaign cash. Nah, nothing traitorous there."

Clinton should have been hanged for this!


45 posted on 10/09/2006 4:26:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: Landru

ROTFLMBO!


46 posted on 10/09/2006 4:27:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: SJackson

"Daddy, why do teachers hate America so much? They all seem to stay here."


47 posted on 10/09/2006 4:28:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: SJackson

He thought the Indians were attractive people. He could have been culturist, but he doesn't seem to have been very racist, especially compared to some of his contemporaries.


48 posted on 10/09/2006 4:48:33 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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