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myfoxtwincities ^ | 10/10/2006 | Tom Lyden

Posted on 10/10/2006 6:12:43 AM PDT by Verloona Ti

By Tom Lyden
Web Produced by Michael Durkin

MINNEAPOLIS – In her bright pink hat, Paula Hare has found herself waiting on her stoop a lot lately, for taxi cabs that never come.

Not to avoid confusion, Paula even tells the taxi dispatcher she’s transgendred. But on three occasions when the taxi actually showed up, she says Muslim drivers have refused to give her a lift.

“This is more than just religion, it’s flat out discrimination,” hare said. “And we’ve got laws against that in this state.”

The city of Minneapolis says she’s right.

Of the nearly 2,000 taxis in the Twin Cities metro, estimates are as many as half the drivers are recent immigrants – many Muslim.

The culture clash is most apparent at Twin Cities international Airport, where two to three times a day, taxi drivers refuse a fare because someone is carrying a bottle of alcohol. Some drivers believe the Koran forbids it.

Soon, the airport will even color code the light bar above taxi’s to indicate those who won’t carry booze.

When FOX 9 stopped by the airport taxi lot to talk about the controversy, we got a near riot. No one said they would give us a ride with a bottle of wine, and they told us to go somewhere else.

Back at Paula’s place, the taxi arrives this time, although the driver gives her quite a look. Paula Hare doesn’t care, as long as she gets there.

“They say it’s their religion, but they pick up women without veils,” Hare said.

The owner of Blue and White Taxi says they suspended one of their drivers who refused to give Paula a ride. That driver eventually quit.

The owner also says three local imams, Muslim religious leaders, have said there is no violation of the Koran if you transport alcohol – they just can’t touch it.

While the airport is compromising on this alcohol issue, mainly it seems out of a fear of litigation. The city of Minneapolis is not making a compromise, saying if the passenger has alcohol, or is going to a liquor store, cabbies must still give them a ride.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; islam; muslims
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1 posted on 10/10/2006 6:12:43 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Verloona Ti
Well, it's happened...Two "victim classes" (moslems and transgendered) clashing. It'll be interesting to see who prevails, if not in court then in liberal opinion. Apparently being moslem trumps being female, to judge how feminists respond to moslem gynephobic atrocities ; who trumps here, moslem or 'transgendered'?

I said on the alcohol threads that if they were allowed to refuse fares with alcohol , then they'd expand their lists. Apparently they've refused people with service dogs already.

It makes me sick to think there are cities in the USA with one imam, much less several.

2 posted on 10/10/2006 6:16:03 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Verloona Ti

How about you paint all the Sharia-compliant taxis green, and let the consumer choose who they want to patronize at the airport? I bet the yellow cabs will be getting a heck of a lot more business than the green ones.


3 posted on 10/10/2006 6:16:55 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: Verloona Ti
Soon, the airport will even color code the light bar above taxi’s to indicate those who won’t carry booze.

That should make it easy for the rest of us to identify them and not give them our business. Not that I'd be carrying booze, just because I don't like them, I don't trust them, and I don't want them around me.

4 posted on 10/10/2006 6:18:40 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Verloona Ti

I'm cheering for the drag queens! They're much less dangerous than the Moozies.


5 posted on 10/10/2006 6:19:16 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: mplsconservative; MplsSteve

MN ping


6 posted on 10/10/2006 6:19:39 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: gridlock
My take is this : Giving the consumer a choice here would mean allowing sharia-compliant cabs to exist. I say no-I don't believe a Jewish or Christian cab driver would be allowed to enforce his religious beliefs against fares, so moslems shouldn't be allowed to, either. If moslems are allowed to refuse fares based on religious beliefs, they will not see that as a sign of sensitivity, but of fear, of "feeling subdued", of voluntarily assuming dhimmitude.

I say smack 'em down. And it appears that the city of Mineapolis is going to do just that, even if the airport is caving.

7 posted on 10/10/2006 6:19:59 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Verloona Ti

If they don't want to take the next passenger in line (for whatever reason), the dispatcher needs to send them to the back of the cab line to try again in an hour or two. Problem solved.


8 posted on 10/10/2006 6:20:06 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Verloona Ti

Suppose some guy dresses up like a really mean looking biker and then calls a cab..... long wait.

Is it discrimination???

Transgender/crossdressing is a CHOICE made by a person who has serious mental problems. We, as Americans, should have a choice as to whether we want to pick up such a freak and give them a ride.


9 posted on 10/10/2006 6:20:51 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Verloona Ti

this one SHOULD be easy..

1) you're in the U.S, not a moozlim country...there are laws against this
2) if you refuse a fare, you lose your license

there..


10 posted on 10/10/2006 6:21:10 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: Verloona Ti

So, a Catholic cab driver can refuse a fare's ride to an abortion clinic?

Just asking.


11 posted on 10/10/2006 6:22:16 AM PDT by maggief
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To: metmom; little jeremiah

"Clash of the protected 'victim' classes" ping


12 posted on 10/10/2006 6:23:28 AM PDT by indcons (This forum needs your financial support too. Please contribute to Free Republic.)
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To: Verloona Ti

Coupla points:

1. If "Paula" didn't make a point of announcing "her" transgendered state, cabbies would probably think "she" looked odd but would pick her up.

2. How come 50% of cabbies in Minneapolis are Somali? Who owns the companies?

3. Where do the cabbies draw the line? What percent of alcohol is needed? Some mouthwash and food flavorings have alcohol as a component.


13 posted on 10/10/2006 6:23:57 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Paloma_55
Well, the city of Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota says otherwise. To allow the moslems to refuse such fares when Christian or Jewish cabbies would face charges if they did is wrong. (And worse yet, will be interpreted not as sensitivity but as dhimmitude.)

I just find the situation ironic, because you KNOW liberal/leftists are going nuts, trying to decide which "victim class" outranks the other. Watch for head explosions in the major metropolutan areas of MN.

14 posted on 10/10/2006 6:24:00 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Paloma_55

that is one slippery slope you're on there..once you can do it to one group, the list will expand to include fat people, bikers, people in blue shirts etc..etc..before you respond..

1) war on smokers
2) war on fast food (a result of the war on smokers)
3) war on perfume (see ottawa, canada), a result of 1 and 2 above

once on the slope, the angle of decent increases significantly..


15 posted on 10/10/2006 6:25:06 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: maggief

No idea what the city's bylaws are in such a situation-but apparently they do forbid refusing people based on "transgendered status", so...If Christians and Jews can't use their religion to get out of such fares, then moslems shouldn't, either.


16 posted on 10/10/2006 6:25:34 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: steve-b

Good, and simple.


17 posted on 10/10/2006 6:26:28 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

Agree with you on number one. He probably thought he was being sensitive and thoughtful, but in this case discretion would have been wiser.


18 posted on 10/10/2006 6:27:29 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Verloona Ti
I say smack 'em down. And it appears that the city of Mineapolis is going to do just that, even if the airport is caving.

If you think the City of Minneapolis is going to be on your side over the long haul, you got another think comin'.

Our governments will always chisel at the edge to grant special rights to these cave-men-come-lately. Little by little they will gain their special rights. Eventually the City of Minneapolis will come up with a compromise position that allow these morons to drive cabs without having the wittle feewings hurt. And the Muzzies will take that gain and keep it, until the next time around, when they'll ask for more.

It is a one way ratchet. Our governmental model of accomodation and compromise is a one way ticket to Sharia. The only question is if we get there quick or slow.

19 posted on 10/10/2006 6:27:41 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: From many - one.

regarding your Nr. 2..

they're just doin the job americans won't do..(I wonder what percentage of those somali's are here legally??)


20 posted on 10/10/2006 6:27:44 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: Verloona Ti
There is no room for "Sharia" in American public accommodations.

Either follow the same rules as everyone else or get out.
21 posted on 10/10/2006 6:28:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Verloona Ti

An "Oh what I wouldn't give to have this in New York City!" BTTT.


22 posted on 10/10/2006 6:28:24 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Verloona Ti

This is stupid. Cabbies refuse fares every single day. But because a fag is involved its breaking, serious news. Queer.


23 posted on 10/10/2006 6:28:42 AM PDT by subterfuge (Tolerance has become the greatest virtue, and hypocrisy the worst character defect.)
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To: gridlock

Sadly, I predict you're right. And when the things get their way on this, they'll get away with refusing service dogs. Then they'll demand women wear head coverings. They'll probably keep scarves in the cab for nonmoslem women to wear. And then women flying into this airport will start bringing their own scarves with them...More sanitary and more "sensitive", don't you know. It makes my blood boil.


24 posted on 10/10/2006 6:31:31 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: subterfuge

Just enjoy the fun of watching the liberals try to wrap their heads around this : Two "victim classes", clashing...who is more of a Noble Victim, the moslem third worlder or the poor downtrodden TV?


25 posted on 10/10/2006 6:32:42 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Verloona Ti

the owner should be so excited that his employment of illegal immigrants is being exposed... /s

check out the green cards and call me in the morning.


26 posted on 10/10/2006 6:33:45 AM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

If the cabs are privately run companies, then they should be free to pick up/ not pick up anyone they want.


27 posted on 10/10/2006 6:35:07 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Verloona Ti

In a few years there will probably be a business opportunity in providing disposable headscarves to women flying into Minneapolis Airport. You could sell them from vending machines in the Women's bathroom for a dollar each.


28 posted on 10/10/2006 6:35:33 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: Verloona Ti
“They say it’s their religion, but they pick up women without veils,” Hare said.

Just give 'em a little more time, especially once they're emboldened by the sight of liberals in positions of power cowering before them and caving into their demands. Then you'll see them not only refusing to pick up women without veils, but people wearing yarmulkes or crucifixes, disabled people with service dogs, women who are unaccompanied by men, etc.

The owner of Blue and White Taxi says they suspended one of their drivers who refused to give Paula a ride. That driver eventually quit.

And I'll bet that driver immediately went running to CAIR, crying about anti-Muslim bias. Once they have enough phony sob stories, they and the ACLU will make their move.

29 posted on 10/10/2006 6:36:06 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Verloona Ti
In her bright pink hat, Paula Hare has found herself waiting on her stoop a lot lately, for taxi cabs that never come.

If Paula is a man who has had his things removed, isn't Paula an "it"?

As for bright pink hats, not even Queen Elizabeth has such bad fashion sense.

30 posted on 10/10/2006 6:36:11 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 88-89)
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To: bitt

Are they illegal? I was under the impression the federal government paid big bucks to bring the Somalis over , so areas with insufficient third world populations (Maine, Minnesota) could stop being burdened by the problems brought by their lack of diversity-you know, things like prosperity, low crime rates, those sort of things.


31 posted on 10/10/2006 6:36:36 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Verloona Ti
Seems to me the Constitution gives Minnesota the right to regulate booze however it sees fit.

If the state allows these guys to refuse to carry booze, that's the way it is.

Best bet when it comes to taxicab service anywhere is to NOT REGULATE IT AT ALL!

32 posted on 10/10/2006 6:38:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Paloma_55
If the cabs are privately run companies, then they should be free to pick up/ not pick up anyone they want.

I seem to recall luncheonettes in Alabama back in the 1950's, making the identical claim that they were privately owned dining establishments and had the right to serve or not serve customers.

33 posted on 10/10/2006 6:38:27 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 88-89)
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To: Verloona Ti
I wonder if i can pick up a transgendered Pot bellied pig and train them as a service animal.
34 posted on 10/10/2006 6:40:25 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: CFC__VRWC
Just give 'em a little more time, especially once they're emboldened by the sight of liberals in positions of power cowering before them and caving into their demands. Then you'll see them not only refusing to pick up women without veils, but people wearing yarmulkes or crucifixes, disabled people with service dogs, women who are unaccompanied by men, etc.

That's exactly what I believe. That's why in this case I cannot support either the "religion" argument, or the "private company" argument, even though they are more consistent with conservative philosophy. Any concessions to these creatures merely encourages them to ask for more-which would eventually lead to us losing all our rights (dhimmitude). That's how this "religion" spreads and gains power even over nonadherents. So I say smack 'em down, and hope they'll give up and go back to whatever turd world hellhole spawned them.

35 posted on 10/10/2006 6:41:32 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Paloma_55

They have to meet licensing requirements and are requlatedas to number. Not quite the same as the corner grocery.


36 posted on 10/10/2006 6:41:42 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: gridlock
With little ribs on the underside of the scarf for 'her pleasure'? ;>)

You could sell them from vending machines in the Women's bathroom for a dollar each.

37 posted on 10/10/2006 6:41:46 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Wake up and smell the jihad)
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To: Verloona Ti

So, what happens when they stop being cabdrivers and become EMTs/Paramedics? Are they going to stop taking care of patients because they are inebriated? or a transgendered person?? It is NOT going to end here folks...


38 posted on 10/10/2006 6:42:00 AM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Ready4Freddy

You're thinking of the ones they would sell in the Men's bathroom...


39 posted on 10/10/2006 6:42:48 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: grjr21

I'v e heard of service horses before...Miniature horses, which are even smaller than ponies. They're about the size of a German Shepherd. If service horses, then why not service pigs? Pigs are smart animals, so they probably COULD be so trained.


40 posted on 10/10/2006 6:43:05 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: Verloona Ti

If Mr. Hare had a goat with him there'd be no problems. Unfortunatly, goats at airports are hard to find.


41 posted on 10/10/2006 6:43:19 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Verloona Ti

What about pharmacists who refuse to dispense the "morning-after" pill because of their religious beliefs? Seems like they have just as much right as cab drivers to follow their religious convictions.


42 posted on 10/10/2006 6:44:21 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
If Mr. Hare had a goat with him there'd be no problems.

Oooooh! A threesome! Kinky!

43 posted on 10/10/2006 6:44:52 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: Verloona Ti

"Cab for you today sir?"
"Um, no thanks. I'm waiting for a white driver."


44 posted on 10/10/2006 6:53:14 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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To: Paloma_55

Except that they agree to follow the rules of the airport in order to use the airport pickup line.


45 posted on 10/10/2006 6:58:51 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Verloona Ti
The gut-level issue is one of behaving like a good neighbor. This sort of behavior is simply uncivil. If a Jewish cab driver refused to carry a passenger with a package of pork sausages, or a Hindu cab driver refused to carry a passenger with a cooler of beefsteakes, or a Baptist cab driver refused to carry a passenger with a copy of Playboy, or an atheist cab driver refused to carry a passenger with a copy of the Bible, etc. it would be obvious to everybody that the cab driver was simply being an @$$hole.
46 posted on 10/10/2006 7:02:56 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Verloona Ti
Just enjoy the fun of watching the liberals try to wrap their heads around this : Two "victim classes", clashing...who is more of a Noble Victim, the moslem third worlder or the poor downtrodden TV?

Doesn't being homo trump everything to liberals? Unless you're a republican congressman of course.

47 posted on 10/10/2006 7:10:00 AM PDT by subterfuge (Tolerance has become the greatest virtue, and hypocrisy the worst character defect.)
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To: Paloma_55
If the cabs are privately run companies, then they should be free to pick up/ not pick up anyone they want.

Agreed, but the airport should also have the right to refuse equal access to taxi cab companies which discriminate against any of their clientele.

48 posted on 10/10/2006 7:13:23 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Verloona Ti
“This is more than just religion, it’s flat out discrimination,” hare said. “And we’ve got laws against that in this state.”

Don't piss 'em off, Paula. They might fly an airplane into the Foshay Building.

49 posted on 10/10/2006 7:16:55 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Between the Lines

I think your take on it is the best yet.


50 posted on 10/10/2006 7:18:26 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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