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Polls: Democrats Set to Take Senate (2002 Flashback)
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Posted on 10/10/2006 11:04:07 AM PDT by ohiobuckeye1997

From newyorker77 1-25-06 post:

2002 POLLS SAID:

Arkansas - Dem Lead/Toss Up

Colorado - Dem Lead/Toss Up

Georgia - Dem Lead/Toss Up

Iowa - Dem Win

Louisiana - Dem Lead/Toss Up

Minnesota - Dem Lead/Toss Up

Missouri - GOP Lead/Toss Up

New Hampshire - GOP Lead/Toss Up

New Jersey - Dem Lead/Toss Up

North Carolina - GOP Lead/Toss Up

South Carolina - GOP Win

South Dakota - GOP Lead/Toss Up

Tennessee - GOP Win

Texas - GOP Lead/Toss Up

REALITY:

Arkansas - Dem Win

Colorado - GOP Win

Georgia - GOP Win

Iowa - Dem Win

Louisiana - Dem Win

Minnesota - GOP Win

Missouri - GOP Win

New Hampshire - GOP Win

New Jersey - Dem Win

North Carolina - GOP Win

South Carolina - GOP Win

South Dakota - Dem Win

Tennessee - GOP Win

Texas - GOP Win


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; flashback; polls
Thanks to NewYorker77 for this post from 1-25-06. With all the pessimism concerning the polls for 2006 I thought it would be good to look at how wrong the polls have been in the past. We all remember what happened in election night 2002. Remember the pic of Carville with the trash can on his head or the depressed Tom Dashle pic? If the conservative base show up we win. period!
1 posted on 10/10/2006 11:04:07 AM PDT by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

Interesting!

Thanks


2 posted on 10/10/2006 11:04:55 AM PDT by Republican Red ("There’s God, then there’s the president and then there's my father.”- 6 yr old Jack Roberts)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

They say the same dang thing every election

IIRC .. they even said Jeb Bush was going down


3 posted on 10/10/2006 11:07:43 AM PDT by Mo1 (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - BECOME A MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997
I certainly hope the pols are incorrect; but I think anyone who is not concerned about the state of the Republican party has their head in the sand.
I think the Republican leadership has done a very poor job positioning the Republicans for this election.
4 posted on 10/10/2006 11:10:34 AM PDT by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out millions for nothing!)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997
every election their polls say they are going to win and every election day they lose.
5 posted on 10/10/2006 11:16:39 AM PDT by CzarNicky (Gentlemen, Dethklok has summoned a troll.)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

Repubs will gain a handful.


6 posted on 10/10/2006 11:17:19 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Mo1
They say the same dang thing every election

But this time, THEY might actually be right.

7 posted on 10/10/2006 11:20:19 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
But this time, THEY might actually be right.

Not if the 60+ million who voted for Bush show up at the polls.

8 posted on 10/10/2006 11:29:49 AM PDT by jerod
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To: The Old Hoosier

Not if folks get out and vote to keep the dems out of office


9 posted on 10/10/2006 11:38:35 AM PDT by Mo1 (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - BECOME A MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

Yeah, and dewey defeats truman, again...


10 posted on 10/10/2006 11:41:44 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Expect a lot of democrat poll-smoking between now and 11/7)
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To: martinidon
I certainly hope the pols are incorrect; but I think anyone who is not concerned about the state of the Republican party has their head in the sand. I think the Republican leadership has done a very poor job positioning the Republicans for this election.

no the lamestream media has gone all out in presenting the Democrats position for this election...

11 posted on 10/10/2006 12:00:15 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: ohiobuckeye1997
If the conservative base show up we win. period!

Agreed. Except it's possible the base won't show. PO'd about the insanity on the border...the rampant globalism in the guest worker agenda being pushed....the lack of a decent plan for Iraq, the scandals (Not Foley, but maybe the coverup and the Abramhoff crappola) the lack of conservative direction on anything....the lack of a plan for the rest of the Axis of Evil. A lot of talk and then nothing. And we still haven't killed OBL. I'm not certain but what the 'Pubbies need a good spankin' I'll take two years of Pelosi in trade for a good GOP President. I have a feeling that after two years of detailing all the stuff the RATs try to pull in increased taxes and decreased preps for terror, the country may well exile them to Venezuela forever. And they'll never learn on gun control. If they come to power they can't help themselves. It's like a lemming reflex. They'll flood the House with gun bans and the people will see that for what it is....a power grab.

12 posted on 10/10/2006 12:03:45 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

If push polling and reporting becomes an more vitriolic in being pro-democrat,

Reporting on Nov 7th will be like this, "LA LA LA LA LA LALALALA LA LA LA AAAAAA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO WIN LA LA LA LA DON'T CARE WHAT RESULTS ARE LA LA LA LA LA LA, and back to Katie Couric."


13 posted on 10/10/2006 12:44:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ExSoldier

The message a defeat will send the GOP is not the one you think. In fact, defeat will turn the GOP away from the extreme right and more to the middle. If the extreme right cannot understand this then the GOP is sunk for a long time.


14 posted on 10/10/2006 1:31:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997
MSM = Pravda.

That said, get out there and work, work, and vote!
15 posted on 10/10/2006 1:33:56 PM PDT by Antoninus (Ruin a Democrat's day...help re-elect Rick Santorum.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

The only people that refer to conservatives as the "extreme right" are Liberals.

Let's get something straight shall we? The Republican Party has been governing from the "middle" which means the left. That's why they got themselves into this damn mess.

They lose and it'll be because they betrayed conservatives, not because the "extreme right" represented by Reaganites, Limbaugh listeners and so forth are too "extreme" to win an election. We've won enough of them to have proved otherwise. Nor will the Party make a turn to the "middle" in the event of a loss. They have already been governing from the "middle" (LEFT) so unless they want to make a marxist turn like the Dems there is not much more turning in that direction they can go.

For the record, I don't believe these junk polls the MSM is shoveling about a loss of the majority. And I've decided to show up this year after all. But I'll be damned if I let someone on a conservative board no less brandish conservatives as extremists and the GOP as having governed according to the wishes of these so called extremists. far from reality as anything I've heard.


16 posted on 10/10/2006 2:51:09 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Soul Seeker

It was not "conservatives" who turned on the first President Bush but Loons. At best 35% of the nation is conservative and only about 5% Far Right. That 5% will NOT dictate the course of action for the GOP or the Nation and its whiney petualance has become more and more tiresome. Almost any action produces threats from them to take their ball and go home so no one relies upon them for anything.

Nor are there ANY candidates who aren't laughable to the other 95% of the voters who they support. NO ONE is good enough for them. They are NOT the people who voted for Reagan either. HE was not good enough for them either being an ex-democrat and one who attracted democrats and moderates as well as conservatives.

Many of the Far Rightists have NOTHING to do with Conservativism or Conservatives but shill day and night for a Turd Party. They have NEVER elected ANYONE to a major office. Even Ron Paul must fool Republicans to win.

Most Republicans and Conservatives are NOT extremists no matter how desperately the Treason Media and the extremists themselve want to claim they are.

My statement is still entirely correct should the GOP lose big time this fall it will NOT turn to the right but to the center.


17 posted on 10/10/2006 3:01:25 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

Those polls are all pretty accurate. They were taken before Wellstone died, skewing the numbers. The only one off is everyone thinking Strickland would beat Allard, which seemed likely at the time.


18 posted on 10/10/2006 3:56:58 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: youthgonewild

Youth get a grip. They had Saxy Chambliss a huge underdog in GA.


19 posted on 10/10/2006 6:36:20 PM PDT by Welike ike
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To: Welike ike

"Dem Lead/Tossup" would seem to indicate he wasn't considered an underdog, just not favored to win. As I recall the Democrats had a couple of unpleasant surprises in Georgia, because Sonny Purdue really was considered a "huge underdog."

From what I can see, they predicted two Democrat seats that went Republican, and one Republican seat that went Democrat. Everything else is as it was. Not a big indictment as no one's going to predict every race correctly.


20 posted on 10/10/2006 6:39:47 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: justshutupandtakeit
In fact, defeat will turn the GOP away from the extreme right and more to the middle.

Sorry, I totally disagree.

21 posted on 10/10/2006 6:42:07 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Welike ike

Sorry, plus Minnesota which was Wellstone's lead until he died and no one even tried to predict the outcome after that.


22 posted on 10/10/2006 6:42:47 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: ExSoldier

That's fine but in order to do so you have to ignore commonsense and political history. There are no more than 35% conservatives in this country and in order to win Senate seats and the Presidency one must attract votes who are not conservatives. Hard Right voters can elect Representatives in a few districts as hard Left voters can but neither can win on the National level.

It is amazing that people can encourage the RATS to nominate Leftist extremists because we know that means defeat for them but these same people don't understand that it works for Rightist extremists as well.

And in order to come to your conclusion you have to ignore the FACT that over 48% voted for an outright frickin' TRAITOR in 2004. That is just how brainwashed the masses are.


23 posted on 10/11/2006 7:10:58 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
There are no more than 35% conservatives in this country and in order to win Senate seats and the Presidency one must attract votes who are not conservatives. Hard Right voters can elect Representatives in a few districts as hard Left voters can but neither can win on the National level.

Then what happened when Ronald Reagan won by a landslide in 1980? I'll tell you: Jimmy Carter and the RATs had so embarrassed this country by giving the appearance of helplessness in the Iranian Hostage crisis. There were economic reasons, too, but the issue that resonated with nearly everybody was an America crippled & humiliated militarily by that 3rd world country. I think the GOP could win this one handily if the man on top would reverse his NWO agenda on immigration and border security. I think there is a huge number of liberals (white anglo) who are panicking on this but will vote their party line as long as there is no definitive difference. Right now, there is no difference between the Rat's and the 'Pubbies on this issue.

24 posted on 10/11/2006 9:49:56 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

That list is worthless without numbers. Do you have the specific polling data?


25 posted on 10/13/2006 9:57:52 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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