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Where I stand on Iraq ::Hillary Clinton to NY Daily News Editorial Board
NY Daily News ^ | October 12, 2006 | Hillary Clinton

Posted on 10/12/2006 4:45:18 PM PDT by Cincinna

Sen. Clinton says how Bush went wrong and offers her prescription for the war.

Clinton met with the Daily News Editorial Board yesterday. These comments are excerpted from her remarks.

"We have to deal with the Iraq we have, not the Iraq we wish we had. And the Iraq we have is a deteriorating, violent conflict that, if not technically a civil war, is about as close as you can get.

Having been now on the Armed Services Committee for more than 3½ years, the uniformed military has tried to be respectful of the chain of command. They've been unwilling to contradict the secretary of defense when he said, "Well, nobody's asked me for more troops." I mean, it's just flat-out untrue. It's been untrue for years.

There are three big things that need to happen..."

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arkansasgrifters; hillary; slickwillie; triangulation
"I mean, it's just flat-out untrue." That about says it all about the ability of the "smartest woman in the world TM" to argue a position and make a point clearly.

Stand for nothing , believe in nothing ,try to appeal to all. Is this any way to run for the presidency?

Read this and be frightened.

1 posted on 10/12/2006 4:45:19 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

Hildebeast speaks for the military now? Better yet, the Military even speeaks to her?


2 posted on 10/12/2006 4:47:00 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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To: Cincinna

The thought that the American voters might make this old Commie Commander-in-Chief makes me want to weep for the military.


3 posted on 10/12/2006 4:49:31 PM PDT by carola
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To: Cincinna
There are certain groups of the Iraqis that will fight, but the vast majority of the 350,000 are not prepared to stand up and fight for Iraq. They might stand up and fight for their tribe or for their family or for their religious affiliation. And that's not going to change unless they have to face the reality that, guess what, we are going to start, what we call, in the Democratic alternative, a phased redeployment.

Now, that doesn't mean initially, out of Iraq. It could be just moving to the North, because I do think we have an extra obligation to the Kurds not to desert them once again. It could certainly mean just over the horizon in Kuwait. But what we've been doing is not working.

WTF?
4 posted on 10/12/2006 4:50:36 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Cincinna

What kind of logic is she employing? First she argues there aren't enough troops in Iraq, then she says we need to move our troops to Kuwait or up north by the Kurds (at least she didn't suggest Guam). Maybe I just don't understand such complicated, nuanced reasoning?


5 posted on 10/12/2006 4:55:32 PM PDT by Just_an_average_Joe (Frank Costanza: I'm like the Phoenix, rising from Arizona.)
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To: Cincinna
Here's a link to the actual article.
6 posted on 10/12/2006 4:57:08 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Teddy drank, people sank.)
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To: maggief
It could be just moving to the North, because I do think we have an extra obligation to the Kurds not to desert them once again. It could certainly mean just over the horizon in Kuwait.


Sounds like the classic double feint cut and run maneuver to me. Used successfully by French Armies for decades.
7 posted on 10/12/2006 4:58:49 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: Cincinna

Hey, Hildabeast, check with your pal John al-Murtha, I hear he has brilliant plan to redeploy to Okinawa..... this keeps all our forces a mere 5,000 miles from Iraq in case of emergency while guaranteeing that our relations with Okinawans and the Japanese gov't will melt down. That's what I call a Demagogue two-fer!!!


8 posted on 10/12/2006 4:59:58 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: carola

Makes me want to thank our forefathers for the second ammendment.


9 posted on 10/12/2006 5:01:57 PM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: AZLiberty

That is the exact same link posted with the article.


10 posted on 10/12/2006 5:09:02 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: Cincinna

What in hell does this woman know about respect? She has no respect for the military from the top on down and she deserves none for herself.


11 posted on 10/12/2006 5:10:09 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Do what you love and the ridicule will follow.)
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To: cardinal4

Hillary's contempt and treatment of the military brings up an important issue. If, God forbid, she were elected, would the military follow her? Her popularity among the active military, veterans, and military families is rock-bottom low.


12 posted on 10/12/2006 5:11:08 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: Cincinna
The only substantive bit of real policy in this silly screed is the formation of an oil trust. She seems to feel it will assure the Iraqis that the oil companies aren't in charge of something or other - she doesn't specify - and that it will guard against the paying out of oil profits to a "ruling elite" although how it will do that she also doesn't say.

This is a perfect example of Democrats attempting to combine a complaint about the status quo with wishful thinking about better results and pass it off as policy. It isn't.

13 posted on 10/12/2006 5:13:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Cincinna

If Hitlery becomes president she will try to make our military be her own personal force. Their first and foremost charge will be to protect her. That's all she cares about.


14 posted on 10/12/2006 5:16:46 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cincinna

draw a line on the ground...she will put a stumpy cankle on each side of it....if she had more stumps she would try to be on 4 sides of the issue....with the piaps just like her husband (in name only ) bj....it depends on what poll has been taken and who her audience is...of course..she is a lib/dem socialist and again like bj...always on the wrong side of every issue!!!!


15 posted on 10/12/2006 5:18:24 PM PDT by hnj_00
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To: Cincinna

What vision! What substance! What clear thinking!

This PIAPS is an empty suit. Her debate against GOP candidate John Spencer on October 29 will further flush her out as a weak speaker and debater.

Infortunately, it will only be broadcast on Time Warner NY1, a local cable channel.

Their website http://www.NY1.com/ has live stream audio so you can all follow along.

Anyone have the latest poll numbers on this race>

Schumer won his race with 73% and Spitzer is polling at 63%. To be nominee for POTUS she must equal or surpass that.


16 posted on 10/12/2006 5:18:59 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: Cincinna
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17 posted on 10/12/2006 5:20:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Just_an_average_Joe

All about demanding Rumsfeld resign.


18 posted on 10/12/2006 5:20:30 PM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: Cincinna

Very frightened. Never, never, never, will she even be nominated.


19 posted on 10/12/2006 5:25:21 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza

If she had as many positions on Iraq as she has in bed maybe her and Bill would see each other more often.


20 posted on 10/12/2006 5:57:34 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

LOL


21 posted on 10/12/2006 6:09:18 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: Parley Baer

Eeeeeewwwwwwww........


22 posted on 10/12/2006 6:20:35 PM PDT by DragonMarine (Capitalism works, but it has to be paid for. (From the halls of Montezuma...)
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To: Cincinna

Now let me get this straight. The Hildebeast says she's met with Iraqi leaders and they aren't putting together a program for oil revenues to go to their people, fast enough to suit her. It is THEIR country and THEIR right to make internal decisions. Is the Hildebeast saying she is going to THREATEN them? Just how, Ms. Know-nothing are you going to dictate to the Iraqi leaders how to run their country? What a moron.


23 posted on 10/12/2006 6:28:07 PM PDT by hardworking
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To: RedCell

Isn't it odd that Iraq has been deteriorating for 3 1/2 years? At what point has it deteriorated to the point of not existing any more? 10 years? 15? 20?


24 posted on 10/12/2006 6:34:54 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Murtha is even cutting and running from a debate.)
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To: Just_an_average_Joe

Tubba should tend to her own backyard before telling anyone what to do. She can't even control her own husband who is straying from the fold so to speak. IMO, they deserve each other.


25 posted on 10/12/2006 6:41:09 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Cincinna

Notice how the editorial board had no questions. The Queen is not be questioned.

Yeah, like if the Sunnis get some oil money, they will play nice with everyone.

Cankles forgets that the Sunnis ran the show for thirty years under Saddam and tortured and killed the Shiites and Kurds. The Sunnis are lucky we are there--that ensures they won't be ethnically cleansed by the other to groups, who definitely have an axe to grind with them.

Yep, the oil deal proposed by Her Heinous will solve everything. Why, oh why, could we not see the genius of this single issue solution? Oh, how could we be so blind?

If Hillary! becomes President on 1/20/09, Civil War II will break out by 2012.She's that dangerous.


26 posted on 10/12/2006 7:06:03 PM PDT by exit82 (Clinton didn't try. He just failed.)
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To: OldFriend
All about demanding Rumsfeld resign.

We have to deal with the Iraq we have, not the Iraq we wish we had.

She plagiarized Rumsfeld's comments too.

27 posted on 10/12/2006 7:40:00 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Cincinna
That is the exact same link posted with the article.

The original link points to the editorial page, which -- tomorrow -- will have different content on it than today and may not include the Hillary article. I thought it would be useful to link directly to the (hopefully) permanent location of the article.

28 posted on 10/12/2006 10:47:50 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Teddy drank, people sank.)
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To: AZLiberty

Thanks. I didn't note the difference.


29 posted on 10/13/2006 12:18:35 AM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: maggief
I am sure that after Hillary abandons 90% of Iraq to its fate the Kurds will sleep soundly at night with her promises. :-(
30 posted on 10/13/2006 12:22:31 AM PDT by cgbg (Teddy Roosevelt said it best: "Speak softly and carry a big stick.")
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To: Colorado Doug

Thanks, I missed that stolen thought. She has none of her own so I ought not be surprised.


31 posted on 10/13/2006 4:01:41 AM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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