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Are the Democrats Whigging Out? (*snort*)
The American Thinker ^ | 10/13/2006 | J. Peter Mulhern

Posted on 10/13/2006 6:04:27 AM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies

The dims will learn nothing if they fail to gain control of the house or senate. Their SOP is political opportunism, that's all they really stand for anymore.


21 posted on 10/13/2006 6:56:07 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Dark Skies
One thing I think is that if the dems lose their bid to take Congress, it's time for new dem leadership as the Pelosi and Reid ships aren't bringing them where they want to go.

I also think, win or lose, it's time for new GOP leadership in Congress. Frist is gone anyway, and Hastert's rotten leadership helped bring the GOP to the brink of losing it all. The GOP gets new leadership, also.
22 posted on 10/13/2006 6:58:49 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: marktwain
What will take the place of the Democrats?


This is simple, the Republicans will move to the left, and a new party will form on the right.

I am a Republican because it is the only balance to the Democrats. Once I am sure the Democrats are no longer a major polictical party, I will find a home in a party that is to the right of the current Republican party.

23 posted on 10/13/2006 7:05:34 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Dark Skies

Mulhern published some of the most insightful pieces about the Clinton impeachment, most of which turned out to be accurate, that I can recall. He doesn't publish much---probably because he's busy actually making money---but he's dead on. The Dems are resembling, more and more, the Federalist Party in 1814, with nowhere to go but into a million little pieces.


24 posted on 10/13/2006 7:17:08 AM PDT by LS
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To: Crawdad

Good point, but Mulhern rightly argues that the stage was set before that with the opposition to Vietnam, wherein the Dems lost their ability to defend the country.


25 posted on 10/13/2006 7:17:54 AM PDT by LS
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To: Dark Skies

There is a lesson here for all of us. To have ideals, to have principles are good. But to put these ideals and principles ahead of all else is bad (in the sense it will keep you from winning elections).

The vast majority of Amerian voters view themselves as being in the middle. They are afraid of both the hard left and the hard right.

When one extreme takes over a political party, they will lose many voters in the middle. This is the danger of those with "one issue" voters. You either believe everything I do, or I will not vote for you.

Polictics is compromise. You want to win elections, convince voters your ideas are not "crazy", convert them to your view.

The Democrats could win this year if they had not fallen under the influence of the far left. If after 9/11 they had fallen behind the President, quit the constant attack on him and his administration, support the war effort, they could be heading towards control of both houses next month.

But "purity" has won over common sense. The desire to destroy President Bush, and fight him on everything, while not offering any alternative, does not give the voters any choice.

They will win the purity vote from the far left. But will they will the average American in the middle support them?

The Democrats claim they never get their "message" out, but I suspect most know what the Democrats stand for. Income distribution via higher taxes, Special rights for the correct minorities, no support for the military, in fact they will "cut and run", abotion on demand, and the destruction of all "middle class values".

If you support those things, you will vote for the Democrats, if not, Republican.


26 posted on 10/13/2006 7:28:55 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Renfield

One possible outcome may be RINOs on one side and conservatives on the other. The Libs and Rinos will team up because the RINOs are just libs pretending to be for the people.


27 posted on 10/13/2006 7:35:08 AM PDT by gr8eman (Everybody is a rocket scientist...until launch day!)
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To: Renfield; All

Rush prompted this new thinking: What if the dems lose? a couple of days ago. I think there's still something up on his website about it. It was a great monologue.

But this one statement is a highlight for me: "They [the dems] have made the mistake of believing their own propaganda yet again." Some of their propaganda is based on a 11-16% over-weighting of dems in the polling data. This is making it very distorted. But it's asuaging the "kooks" from their party, who foolishly believe it's really true.

This is exactly what the dems did in 2002 and 2004 - remember how Carville put the trashcan on his head when all his predictions ended up in the "trashcan" ..??


28 posted on 10/13/2006 7:41:42 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt
They ALWAYS hype their chances and whip the media into echoing the Democratic victory dance ahead of time. It serves to sway the opinions and votes of those who truly are not in touch with the issues and current events and simply want to vote with the likely winners, and it sets the stage perfectly for cries of stolen elections if the mirage turns to sand.

The difference with the Democrats is, they actually BELIEVE their own mirage.

29 posted on 10/13/2006 8:18:19 AM PDT by Sender (Error 404: tagline not found)
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To: Renfield

Never underestimate the power of evil, ignorance, hate and silliness when it comes to emotional voters who just hate W and the GOP. 15 seats and 6 seats is not a very huge leap. Still, I would love to see some poll or study which actually shows if the GOP can take any Dem seats!!! Now that would be a news story.


30 posted on 10/13/2006 8:31:58 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Dark Skies
n the likely event that Democrats wake up on the Wednesday after the first Tuesday in November...

It's actually the first Wednesday after the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.

31 posted on 10/13/2006 8:45:38 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: RayChuang88
If the Republicans keep Congress, watch for Howard Dean to be ousted as DNC chairman and very likely we could see an early retirement for Senator Harry Reid. Repressenatitive Nanci Pelosi may survive, but who knows for how long.

...and, of course, Charlie Wrangler will resign. </sarcasm>

32 posted on 10/13/2006 8:54:49 AM PDT by Aeronaut (Hebrews 13:4)
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To: Dark Skies
[ They have made the mistake of believing their own propaganda yet again. ]

And THEN Dirty Harry Reid turns up with the October surprise(the land deal)..
That even the MsM can't assume the postion and swallow.. after they have sucked with abandon in the past.. Culture of Corruption indeed.. Nancy(Pelosi) do your duty.. Course; if you do, a few you're OWN deals in Mexifornia may come to light..

33 posted on 10/13/2006 9:06:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: Dark Skies
IMO, that vacuum exists to the right of President Bush...not to the left.




My thoughts exactly. The implosion of the Dems gives conservatives a chance to force the GOP to the right or sever ties without fear of handing over the reigns of power to the Dems.
34 posted on 10/13/2006 10:25:30 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: PogySailor

Democrats in Florida are running as conservatives. Every TV ad claims they are "pro-life, pro-gun, pro-defense". They KNOW they have a boat anchor tied to their ankles pulling them down and are desperate to fool voters.

In your estimation, what are their chances of success?

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35 posted on 10/13/2006 11:49:27 AM PDT by eddiespaghetti ( with the meatball eyes)
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To: Dark Skies
Are the Democrats Whigging Out?

Not since Traficant went to the pokey.

36 posted on 10/13/2006 11:50:32 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Dark Skies
There will be casualties. Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will all have trouble keeping their jobs in the wake of yet another failure.

I don't suppose they would allow Reid to run the Senate minority party from his prison cell.

Excellent read, BTW. I've been waiting for this kind of analysis.

37 posted on 10/13/2006 11:54:04 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Dark Skies

Great article and a brilliant analysis.


38 posted on 10/13/2006 11:59:43 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: CIB-173RDABN
That's patently ridiculous!

The Dem Party will not just fade away; it will be replaced and the GOP will still need your support. And a faaaaaaaar right party will NOT have any more of a chance, then, than it does now.

39 posted on 10/13/2006 12:05:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Re#26,

Several good points.

I would add that Rats have continued to depend on the MSM and DBM to conceal their dilemma and shape opinion against Republicans, and it is working less and less as each day goes by. As you say, the rat message has actually gotten out by the MSM, it's just that the average American can now read between the lines, and has alternative media sources.

40 posted on 10/13/2006 12:18:59 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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