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1 posted on 10/13/2006 3:46:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Its a muslim, therefore they will never pursue. It was supposed to be a white crazy male remember?


2 posted on 10/13/2006 3:52:36 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Allan; Mitchell; Battle Axe; TrebleRebel; jpl; cgk; EdLake; piasa; muawiyah; Peach; Perdogg; ...

Ping.


3 posted on 10/13/2006 3:54:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Yet the FBI is confident

Say, what?

Was it just a coincidence that there appear to have been connections between known Muslim terrorists, the Florida anthrax attack, and the New Jersey mailings?

4 posted on 10/13/2006 3:54:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Shermy
Kenneth Berry's career also unraveled after the FBI searched a Dover
Township, N.J., summer home he was visiting in 2004.
...snip...
He never was charged, either.


I missed this part of the story.

So, Hatfill wasn't the only guy slimed by the investigation.

(OK, I'll retract that if either is ever charged, tried and convicted).
6 posted on 10/13/2006 3:58:54 PM PDT by VOA
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To: EdLake

You're quoted:

"So he sent a warning to the media, saying this is next, there's a biological attack coming next, and be prepared: Take penicillin," said Lake..."

I also believe the mailer/s had a familiarity with Central New Jersey. Because the return addresses on the second batch nearly match a name of a school there and the town didn't match the zip code, town was adjacent or so to the zip code area - only someone from local familiarity would know enough to make that kind of mistake. If the mailer was from elsewhere but wanted to make a phoney return address they would look up the town's name on the internet or such and have the correct zipcode - no reason to dummy the zip code.


7 posted on 10/13/2006 4:04:36 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
There are other circumstances that I don't know if anyone has written about...I work at the post office(and did in 2001), the anthrax could very well have not harmed anyone except for one tiny, unpredictable circumstance - even the sender, I believe didn't anticipate -- the post office(in 2001) regularly "blew out" their machines(letter cancellers, sorters, ...everything) with compressed air.

Compressed air is no longer allowed. All machines nation wide are vacuumed. Plus, I don't think it's considered secret, but all AFCS's(letter cancellers) are now equipped with bio detection systems.

It seems that the compressed air took what may have been a "warning" or "demonstration" and aerosolized what the sender thought would arrive in the same condition it was sent in! This is also why it was mostly postal people who died and were affected. Others who work for the po can easily confirm what I'm saying.
So, when someone says a rogue bio scientist sent the stuff not expecting the 'blow up', has some believability to me, just because nobody could have anticipated the po would take a bio hazard and aerosolize it.
17 posted on 10/13/2006 4:32:36 PM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: Shermy

Two points: 1) If all earlier reports of weapons grade anthrax were false, please identify those who made those false claims and then fire them. 2) In their tireless search for the criminal responsible for those anthrax attacks, has the FBI at last ruled out their favorite frame-up target, Richard Jewel?


18 posted on 10/13/2006 4:37:08 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Shermy

Nobody has been arrested for the anthrax mailings of 2001.


22 posted on 10/13/2006 8:12:34 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (DeWine ranked as one of the ten worst border security politicians - Human Events)
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To: Shermy
It's way off the beaten track but this has always bothered me given that Iraq was running some of its bioweapons research out of Sudan:

"He [bin Laden] was a busy person and had hundreds of people working for him," said one El Hage family member. "You didn't get to see him unless he invited you." El Hage's mother-in-law received letters from El Hage that contained seed samples from the Sudanese farms. El Hage frequently took international trips to Europe and elsewhere on business for bin Laden, family members say. -"A Portrait of Wadih El Hage, Accused Terrorist," by Oriana Zill, Frontline, PBS.org, http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/upclose/elhage.html.(Oriana Zill was Associate Producer of FRONTLINE's "Hunting Bin Laden")

27 posted on 10/13/2006 10:38:10 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Shermy
You'd think they would try to acquire the anthrax before going around looking for cocaine to stick it in...

OCTOBER 25, 2001 : (COLUMBIA : IRA TERRORISTS REPORTEDLY TRIED TO BUY COCAINE; PLANNED TO MIX ANTHRAX WITH COCAINE) <4?On October 25,2001, Univision’s Spanish T.V., "Primer Impacto' and in the late nightly international news, it was reported from Colombia that the IRA terrorists arrested this month in Colombia had their headquarters in Cuba and tried to buy 1,500 kilograms of cocaine in order to be mixed with anthrax for further distribution in the U.S. Although the Spanish TV channel interviewed the DEA agent who exposed the operation, the American media censored this important news that brings forward Castro’s involvement in bio-terrorism. - "CASTRO AND THE INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM, A CHRONOLOGY," by Eugene Pons with a foreword by Jaime Suchlicki , Institute for Cuban &Cuban-American Studies, Occasional Paper Series, September 2001

28 posted on 10/13/2006 10:48:30 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Shermy; All
I see the thread has turned into a Bush bash. Let me inject a tad of reason and common sense, if that's allowed. {Fact: the FBI has not found the culprit. Not Fact: that the FBI doesn't want to find the culprit. Not fact: that President Bush ordered the FBI not to find the cuprit. Not fact: that President Bush doesn't care what the FBI does in this or any case.} Now those on here who claim this was very solvable, so are bashing the government with dark conspiracy theory and motive as a result...DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ABOUT EVERY FBI CASE THAT GOES UNSOLVED FOR YEARS?????? To be consistent, you must!!! I rest my case built on common sense and reason.
31 posted on 10/14/2006 4:52:52 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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This topic brings back a freeper post durring the anthrax incident after 9-11. I can't remember the freeper's name, but I won't forget this "theory" on the topic.

His(or her)post came up with this possible answer:

What if the anthrax letters were actually a not-so-subtle threat by Saddam after 9-11??

The reasons for the "mini" anthrax attack, was to threaten the Bush administration if we were going to invade Iraq, because of the tie-ins with Al-Queda and Saddam's BIG role in training them and letting them use Iraq as a "terrorist basic training site" to attack the US.

Saddam was playing the Oil-For-Food (OFF) thing, and had no way to retaliate against the US in any open attack that could be traced back to him.

Therefore, the Anthrax was the way to go. The US was still smarting from 9-11, had the "Gorelick Wall" still in place,Homeland Security was in BARELY underway, and we didn't have ANY idea if a large scale attack was already set to go here with nothing but a "GO" signal to set it off.

If you were the Bush administration at that time, how would you respond to a threat like that?? The airlines were all going broke because of so many people afraid to fly after the 9-11 attacks. Can you imagine a country wide coordinated anthrax attack, with the USPS as the main vehicle, and major ventalation systems in some of the larger buildings, and then in say the major public transportation systems ALL AT THE SAME TIME??

The Bush administration could have been "blackmailed" very easily by Saddam and Al-Queda, by saying they would do a full blown attack if Bush tried to pin the first attack on him. The attack would have been very hard to prove and connect it on Saddam and Al-Queda in the UN arena, due to the state of our intellegence apparatus at that time, and all the UN member countries involved in it, who could have also been "blackmailed" by Saddam and Al-Queda by threatening to expose them in the scandal if they didn't keep obstructing the US from gathering international support for the US and coalition almost certain retaliatory invasion because of the 9-11 and anthrax attacks.

The Bush adminisration could also NOT GO PUBLIC with this information. It would have devestated the US economy, not to mention the mass panic and fear. No US mail delivery for an extended period of time,due to the leaking of information like that is almost unimagionable. The incubation period alone is such an effective weapon, that by the time we realized that a wide spread attack had taken place,.....well let's just say it would be a major "problem".

And what if this "theory" really was true???

I would have to consider a major anthrax attack on the US in the WMD catagory. Why haven't we found out who did it yet?? IIRC, the "type" of anthrax used was only available to approximately four different locations in the world, with one of the four being in Iraq.


Can you imagine being President Bush, knowing what he knew, but not being able to go public with it?? Knowing for the VERY SURVIVAL OF THE US, HE HAD TO RETALIATE, or the "mudlums" would know they were on their way to our total destruction because we DID NOT RESPOND.

And worse yet, having to take all the crap he's taking since then, because the WMD reason given for our invasion of Iraq, didn't find ANY "Weapon's of Mass Destruction" in Iraq, according to the MSM, and the Dems, and all the Bush haters.

And one more thing before I close...can you imagine if some of the major Dem political anti-Bush bunch DO know about the situation Bush is in because of his not being able to expose it as yet, and are using it AGAINST HIM by painting Bush as a liar with this NO-WMD's in Iraq, so Bush is a liar mantra??.....

Sorry for the "rant", but IMHO, I considered that freeper's post kinda interesting.....



45 posted on 10/14/2006 7:32:34 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Allan

b.


126 posted on 10/18/2006 2:36:22 AM PDT by Allan (*-O)):~{>)
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To: Shermy

Do you recall the Egyptian that died on the cargo ship off the Canadian coast, presumably from a briefcase full of anthrax? It wasn't too long after the anthrax attacks.


209 posted on 10/19/2006 3:35:29 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Motto of the Democrat party: If we can't rule America, we fully intend to ruin America.)
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