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The U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to impose sanctions on North Korea
cnn ^ | Saturday October 14, 2006 6:31 PM

Posted on 10/14/2006 10:54:16 AM PDT by maquiladora

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To: Bush gal in LA

You are right. He was wonderful. I also liked that Fox (or the wire feed) zoomed in on the empty chair before he spoke.


141 posted on 10/14/2006 12:37:56 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: maquiladora
forget about the banning of cognac and kim's beloved movies etc....

Did you hear what Bolton said about this yesterday? He said since the Nokor people have been losing average height and weight they thought it would be good to put Dear Leader on a diet.

142 posted on 10/14/2006 12:42:44 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Face it, every empire comes to an end, and ours is on the down hill slope.)
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To: All

Isn't this essentially a naval blockade? Isn't a naval blockade an act of war?


143 posted on 10/14/2006 12:43:32 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: Arkinsaw
It might be interesting to take a look at North Korea's navy to see what sort of protecting they could offer their cargo vessels or what type of force they cold project around their ports.

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* Most North Korean combat vessels, such as light destroyers, patrol ships, guided missile boats, torpedo boats, and fire support boats are small. Some 40 guided missile boats pose a substantial threat; they have the capability of launching missile attacks against large vessels and are equipped with two to four 46-km-range Styx anti-ship missiles. At present, over 60% of North Korean combat vessels are deployed in forward bases.

* Approximately 60 percent of the North Korean naval force is deployed close to the front line area. They include 430 combat vessels, such as patrol boats, missile boats, torpedo boats and fire support vessels, 35 submarines including 9 small ones, and 335 supporting vessels such as landing ships and air cushion vessels.

* Submarines, most of which are of the 20-some Romeo-class, are outdated and slow, but they are sufficiently capable of blocking sea lanes. These vessels could attack ROK surface vessels, emplace mines anywhere within the ROK maritime territory, or secretly infiltrate commandos into the South.

* The forward deployment of small high-speed boats such as torpedo and missile boats provides North Korea with an enhanced capability to launch a surprise attack on US combat vessels in the waters along the front line. In particular, the missile boats are equipped with Styx anti-ship missiles with a range of 45 km. The submarines could be used in conducting such missions as blocking sea lanes, placing mines or landing commandos. North Korea deploys 95 km-range Samlet and Silkworm ground-to-sea missiles on its eastern and western coasts. The Silkworm missiles are estimated to be capable of striking vessels near Inchon on the western coast and near Sokcho on the east.

* North Korea also deploys 80-95 km-range ground-to-ship Samlet and Silkworm missiles on both east and west coasts. Silkworm missiles, deployed in the forward area, are able to launch anti-ship attacks as far as Tokjok-do in the Yellow Sea and Sokcho and Yangyang on the east coast.

* The DPRK has a credible mine warfare capability. There are numerous small surface ships that are capable of delivering mines within both the navy and civilian sectors. Mines will be used to defend against amphibious assaults, defend strategic ports, and provide seaward flank protection for land forces. Defensive mine fields will be monitored by coastal observation teams and radar, and they will be supported by well emplaced artillery and missile batteries.

GlobalSecurity.org

144 posted on 10/14/2006 12:51:15 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
"Invited to join the council with his South Korean counterpart, North Korea's ambassador to the U.N. said his country "totally rejects the unjustifiable resolution."

"To meet Russian and Chinese concerns, the Americans eliminated a complete ban on the sale of conventional weapons."

This is why the U.N. is useless.


That means business as usual for China North Korea And Russia..
145 posted on 10/14/2006 12:52:06 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: PghBaldy

"The resolution calls on all countries to inspect cargo leaving and arriving in North Korea" - Yep, pretty much.


146 posted on 10/14/2006 12:57:06 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: silentknight

"If North Koreans were insane then there would already be war."
There is already war-
"On July 27, 1953, the UN, North Korea, and China signed an armistice agreement—South Korea refused to sign—and the fighting ended. The armistice called for a buffer zone 4 km (2.5 mi) wide across the middle of Korea, from which troops and weapons were supposed to be withdrawn. This 'demilitarized zone' was in fact heavily fortified; as of the late 1990s, more than 1 million soldiers confronted each other along the zone. With no peace treaty signed, the two Koreas remained technically still at war; only the armistice agreement and demilitarized zone kept a tenuous peace."
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761559607_3/Korean_War.html#s20


147 posted on 10/14/2006 12:58:47 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: DaveTesla
Read the rest of it.

Bans trade with North Korea on battle tanks, armored combat vehicles, large caliber artillery systems, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, missiles or missile systems.

Business as usual?

148 posted on 10/14/2006 12:58:53 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: EGPWS
It sure beats the he!! out of giving tax dollars to them to the tune of $30 billion augmented by nuclear technology to appease them doesn't it?

Yeah, quite a few here are dismissing this as typical UN. But essentially what it is is the UN saying....ok fine...go ahead and stop their ships.

Thats a nice development since, even though conventional arms of some sorts are allowed...we can still stop those ships and it will be a huge boon for our intelligence services. They can't rely on the inviolability of their shipping to move chemical/bio/nuclear technology under cover. They have to assume any ship will be stopped.

I must admit I am astounded that this got through the Security Council.

Both North Korea and Iran have to hate this.
149 posted on 10/14/2006 1:00:05 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
Both North Korea and Iran have to hate this.

I was thinking this before I got to it while reading your reply.

150 posted on 10/14/2006 1:04:20 PM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: DaveTesla
"To meet Russian and Chinese concerns, the Americans eliminated a complete ban on the sale of conventional weapons."

This is why the U.N. is useless.

Why does THIS make the UN useless?

Because "Nations United" didn't "kowtow"?

151 posted on 10/14/2006 1:08:08 PM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Confucius say "You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.".
152 posted on 10/14/2006 1:08:37 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo
"You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose."

Quadriplegics worldwide who read your statement will be in panic because of it.

153 posted on 10/14/2006 1:12:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: maquiladora

We'll see how it works in practice. Given what they said about that part of the resolution, I doubt the Chinese will be any help at all when it comes to cargo inspections.

The UN does not have a good record. Forgive us for being so cynical.


154 posted on 10/14/2006 1:14:33 PM PDT by NinoFan
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Video of the NK Rep saying it was an act of war can be seen here.
155 posted on 10/14/2006 1:15:24 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: maquiladora

Sorry, I'll believe it when I see it.


156 posted on 10/14/2006 1:15:31 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: maquiladora
I'm sure the Navy already has ROE for such operations.

No doubt.

157 posted on 10/14/2006 1:15:32 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: PghBaldy

Even though not all trade is blocked, to make sure only "harmless" is moving, wouldn't ALL traffic to and from NK have to be searched and/or stopped? The more I think of this, the bigger it appears.


158 posted on 10/14/2006 1:17:39 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: Arkinsaw
Looks like Bolton did not do too badly. This is about the best I was expecting out of the UN. I was certainly not expecting any hint of "stop and inspect" to make it through. It looks like the Chinese and Russians saved face by changing "language".

Could it be that China and Russia are having second thoughts about the monster they created? Now, what if North Korea sells nuclear weapons to the highest bidder and that bidder is one of the rebel groups in Russia or China? Kerboom.

159 posted on 10/14/2006 1:22:18 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: AmishDude

I saw a picture of a NK ship leaving a Japan rt piled high with USED bicycles....


160 posted on 10/14/2006 1:22:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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