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Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 10/14/06

Posted on 10/14/2006 3:41:13 PM PDT by Pokey78

The 2012 London Olympics have been plunged into controversy by the discovery that the Games will clash with Ramadan, the most holy month in the Islamic calendar.

The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games.

In 2012, Ramadan will take place from July 21 to August 20, while the Olympics run from July 27 to August 12.

An anticipated 3,000 Muslim competitors are expected to be affected.

About a quarter of the 11,099 athletes who took part in the 2004 Athens Olympics came from countries with predominantly Muslim populations.

Because the Muslim calendar is based on a lunar cycle, the ninth month of Ramadan - which runs from the appearance of one new crescent moon to the next - gets earlier by around 11 days each year.

The clash will be a huge embarrassment for Lord Coe, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell, and London Mayor Ken Livingstone, who have been keen to ensure the Games involve all Britain's ethnic communities.

Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, said: "They would not have organised this at Christmas. It is equally stupid to organise it at Ramadan.

"It shows a complete lack of awareness and sensitivity.

"This is going to disadvantage the athletes and alienate the Asian communities by saying they don't matter.

"It's not only going to affect the participants it's going to affect all the people who want to watch the Games.

"They won't want to travel during Ramadan and they won't want to watch sport. It's a spiritual time."

Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam on the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "I'm sure the athletes will seek advice from their scholars.

"They are obviously going to be at a disadvantage because other competitors will be drinking and keeping up their energy levels.

"But they are athletes and I am sure they will train their bodies to cope with this.

"A Muslim might feel it would have been nice to avoid this month but life doesn't stop for Muslims during Ramadan even though they are fasting.

"The best thing for a Muslim is to continue his or her life as normal. This is the real test."

The British Olympic Association is now planning a meeting with the organisers of London 2012 to discuss how the timing will affect UK Muslim athletes.

And Muslim countries such as Turkey are calling for the date to be changed.

Togay Bayalti, president of the National Olympic Committee of Turkey, said: "This will be difficult for Muslim athletes.

"They don't have to observe Ramadan if they are doing sport and travelling but they will have to decide whether it is important to them.

"It would be nice for the friendship of the Games if they had chosen a different date."

The International Olympics Committee insisted the Games take place some time between July 15 to August 31, giving more than a week either side of Ramadan.

IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said: "We give a window to the five bid cities. The host city selects the dates within that window.

"The Games bring together virtually every religion and creed. How to deal with religious clashes is up to the athletes."

Joanna Manning Cooper, spokeswoman for London 2012, said: "We did know about it when we submitted our bid and we have always believed we could find ways to accommodate it.

"We had lots of things to consider when we submitted our dates, including the fact that transport will be less crowded in the summer holiday.

"We also need 70,000 volunteers and this is the best time to find them.

"We are working with the Muslim Council of Great Britain to find ways to accommodate Ramadan during the London Games."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angrymuslims; criminalpunks; crybabymuslims; globalwhining; islam; muslims; olympics; ramalamadingdong; riotingmuslims; trop
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1 posted on 10/14/2006 3:41:14 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games.

Too frickin bad. One's religion requires you to make sacrifices. I'd consider someone who claims to be devout yet who wants to reschedule an Olympic event so he won't be penalized due to beliefs he willing holds a hypocrite of the highest order.

It's like saying "I will sacrifice for my God, but I don't want to sacrifice if it costs me something important."

2 posted on 10/14/2006 3:43:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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To: Darkwolf377

Let them stay home. Who needs them?


3 posted on 10/14/2006 3:44:53 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Pokey78

The Brits will cave.


4 posted on 10/14/2006 3:44:57 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FIGHT CRIME. SHOOT BACK.)
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To: Pokey78

I see the Muslims are celebrating Ramadan again this year with bombings, beheadings, and the slaughter of innocents.


5 posted on 10/14/2006 3:45:44 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Pokey78
Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan

To save precious newspaper space, maybe we should only report the one or two stories a year that begin: "Muslims Pleased and Happy..." ;)

6 posted on 10/14/2006 3:46:59 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Pokey78

IBRYMB!


7 posted on 10/14/2006 3:47:34 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Even the nicest pug has an evil twin.)
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To: Darkwolf377

"The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games."

Hogwash. The "Religion of Peace" allows them to skip the fast if they are travelling, but they must make it up later.

Besides, you're right. Being in the Olympics is not some Allah-given right. Religion requires sacrifice. Choose: Ramadan fast (which can be delayed!) or the Olympics.

The world is not Muslim... yet.


8 posted on 10/14/2006 3:47:36 PM PDT by johnpannell
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To: Darkwolf377; Pokey78
Compare and contrast:

Buncha whingers. But the Brits have changed a lot since the 1924 Olympics. Bet they'll cave.

9 posted on 10/14/2006 3:47:44 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Pokey78

Just issue them a waiver in a form of a fatwa.


10 posted on 10/14/2006 3:48:36 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Pokey78

To Paraphrase John Lennon:

Imagine....

A world without Muslims....


11 posted on 10/14/2006 3:48:53 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (F.U. D.U!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Yep.


12 posted on 10/14/2006 3:49:29 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: WashingtonSource

No.Change the date NOW!No offending Muslims at any time,any place.
The Summer Olympics will now be held from November 12th to December First.
Problem solved.


13 posted on 10/14/2006 3:49:34 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Pokey78

We have major sporting events on Christmas and Easter.
I don't recall Christans complaining.
Mussies suffer from low self-esteen with their religion.


14 posted on 10/14/2006 3:49:38 PM PDT by TOneocon
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To: Pokey78

YAWN - the muslims are outraged AGAIN!


15 posted on 10/14/2006 3:50:01 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: AnAmericanMother

D'oh!


16 posted on 10/14/2006 3:50:15 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Pokey78

Who gives a shit. Let 'em eat pork.


17 posted on 10/14/2006 3:50:15 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Pokey78
Cry Me a River
Click the Pic J

18 posted on 10/14/2006 3:50:33 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: WashingtonSource

Frankly, I think the MSM are doing us a service, though not intentionally, by reporting every one of these protests. I hope people start to realize that first it's cartoons, then it's going to be something else. These folks seem to think the rest of the world has to accomodate them. The appeasers may feel they have to comply, but we are Americans--you come here and YOU can do your own thing, but don't expect ME to have to join you. (I know this story is about the Olympics in the UK, but this trend is coming here, too.)


19 posted on 10/14/2006 3:50:46 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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To: Pokey78
That's what I like about the Muzzies. Every week, there's something new to be offended about.

It's all concocted to end Saudi dominance of the Olympics.
20 posted on 10/14/2006 3:51:24 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: johnpannell

Muslims and Dems have at least one thing in common--the intense need to always, always portray themselves as victims.


21 posted on 10/14/2006 3:51:28 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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To: Pokey78

Fast or no fast, I still favor them to win the artistic beheading and suicide vest relay races.


22 posted on 10/14/2006 3:51:31 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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To: popdonnelly

The sooner civilization cuts this cancer out of it's body the better. If it doesn't , it'll kill it's host.


23 posted on 10/14/2006 3:52:20 PM PDT by MrLee
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To: AnAmericanMother
I almost mentioned Chariots of Fire--great minds...

If believing in one's God means you're not willing to sacrifice your playing in a game, your faith can't mean very much to you, can it? Let these people whine on, it might wake a few of us up.

24 posted on 10/14/2006 3:52:37 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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To: Pokey78

ramadamn ?

too damn bad.

don't come. we don't care, do you understand that? we DON'T CARE.


25 posted on 10/14/2006 3:53:05 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Pokey78

Worse yet it is in the Holy City of Londonistan. (Any city with a beat up old mosque is a Muslim holy city and London has at least one beat up old mosque).


26 posted on 10/14/2006 3:53:12 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Pokey78

They DO seem to get their burquas in a twist over every little thing, don't they? It just doesn't take much to p*ss off a muslim now days.


27 posted on 10/14/2006 3:53:37 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (The dems. can't have a fool-proof plan. There would be no one left in their base.)
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To: Pokey78
Olympic events for Muslims: Beheading, Suicide-bombing, Crazed-complaining, Raping, Pillaging.

Do the Muslims not do any of these things during Ramadan?

28 posted on 10/14/2006 3:53:43 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Larry Lucido
GMTA.

Probably none of these lowlifes are capable of the reasoned sacrifice of Eric Liddell.

29 posted on 10/14/2006 3:56:02 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Pokey78

WWSD?

What would Sandy do?

30 posted on 10/14/2006 3:56:11 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: popdonnelly
I see the Muslims are celebrating Ramadan again this year with bombings, beheadings, and the slaughter of innocents.

Isn't that the normal way of observing holey days on the mohammedan calendar? The mass letting of blood and the large scale detonation of explosives?

As another FReeper(can't recall who, but I loved it) has said so eloquently.

allahu FUBAR!
31 posted on 10/14/2006 3:56:17 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
The Brits will cave.

How can they? The Summer Olympics have run at this time for decades. The entire competition calendar for years is built around this time. Now they are supposed to suddenly adjust it to suit the demented worshippers of Satan? No way. Besides the only Muslims who ever do well are Black Africans--whose ancestors were tortured and murdered to force Islam upon them. Hardly something we should commemorate.

32 posted on 10/14/2006 3:57:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Pokey78

Well, maybe they should be showing up at all. After all the Olympics are pagan in origin. Surely we can get a selection of Muslim clerics to issue fatwas declaring that participation is shirk, and thus forbidden to Muslims.


33 posted on 10/14/2006 3:57:35 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Darkwolf377
Well, it was the obvious example . . .

I don't give a Ramadamadingdong what these whingers think. Let 'em find some other athletic event to attend.

34 posted on 10/14/2006 3:57:39 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Pokey78; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...

The International Olympics Committee members now deserve to be on the Muzzie Protest and Behead list - they have insulted Allah.


35 posted on 10/14/2006 3:58:29 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Pokey78

Is there ANYTHING that the Muslimes are NOT angry about?

Screw em, kill em all and let allah sort em out.


36 posted on 10/14/2006 3:58:39 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Pokey78
"About a quarter of the 11,099 athletes who took part in the 2004 Athens Olympics came from countries with predominantly Muslim populations."

And just which medals did this large number of contestants win?

(Picturing burka beach volly ball)

37 posted on 10/14/2006 3:59:44 PM PDT by norton
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To: TOneocon

38 posted on 10/14/2006 4:01:13 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Pokey78

Oh FFS. Do these bastard get agry about everything? I can see a similar headline as ridiculous. "Paint dries on Ramadan,muslims angry." Savage idiots the whole lot of them.


39 posted on 10/14/2006 4:01:40 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: AnAmericanMother

I bet they'd have no trouble attending if the events included Long Distance Running In a Suicide Vest--men's and women's and juniors divisions, all medals awarded postumously--and Team Beheading.


40 posted on 10/14/2006 4:02:13 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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To: Pokey78
"They don't have to observe Ramadan if they are doing sport and travelling", Togay Bayalti, president of the National Olympic Committee of Turkey, said

Well, there you have it. All this outrage is a bunch of camel crap. These athletes DO NOT HAVE TO OBSERVE RAMADAN. Which is most likely why this issue has never come up in the past.

41 posted on 10/14/2006 4:02:20 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Cobra64

Thats hilarious.


42 posted on 10/14/2006 4:03:18 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


43 posted on 10/14/2006 4:03:54 PM PDT by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: Pokey78

To me this only proves the hollowness of Islam. If it had any true susbstance it's adherents would treat this as an act of faith, and expect that their faithfulness would be rewarded with perhaps even better performance.

When you complain about everything, yet ignore the garbage in your own house, no one will ever listen.


44 posted on 10/14/2006 4:04:42 PM PDT by America always
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To: Pokey78

Quote from Muslim in the article:

"They would not have organised this at Christmas. It is equally stupid to organise it at Ramadan."

It's the SUMMER OLYMPICS. SUMMER OLYMPICS. Since when is summer in December you moron?


45 posted on 10/14/2006 4:05:16 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Darkwolf377

Chariots of Fire was the first thing that came to my mind too.....well actually first I thought "Muslims are offended, cause it's a day that ends in "Y"".


46 posted on 10/14/2006 4:05:26 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Pokey78

Deport large numbers of them NOW, before they in effect control your government , Brits. This is WHAT THEY WANT/
A NINE YEAR OLD CAN SEE IT, unless they too have already been brainwashed. Apparently not a day is allowed to go by in which someone in the West, or some government,or some policy is not seen as committing some serious infraction against the Muslim leeches. I simply do NOT know how the British countenance this, though I have read all the explanations. It is a measure of the depth of Islamic dysfunctionality that they would even CONSIDER pulling this crap and making these demands, but it has now become THEIR WAY OF LIFE, and it is presented as the ONLY alternative to their more active demonstrations of outright violence, beheadings, bombings, etc.---all the stuff in their Jihadist toolbox. Remember the slogan "Tomorrow the World" ---It is now imprinted on tens if not hundreds of millions of Islamic minds.

I will repeat my point above, because I think it is a good one: the political pressure they are exerting here, with its explicit lecturing and hectoring about "insensitivity", is being presented as THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE MEDICINE THE WEST WILL GET, SO THE WEST BETTER SWALLOW IT NOW.......the not-so-subtle implication (to me) , but apparently invisible to most others IS that:
YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF IF WE DON'T GET OUR WAY.
SO-----once again, the equation reads "SUBMIT---OR DIE."


47 posted on 10/14/2006 4:05:47 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits targets no one else can hit, but genius hits targets no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
To save precious newspaper space, maybe we should only report the one or two stories a year that begin: "Muslims Pleased and Happy..."

I think such an article was posted.

On April 1st.

48 posted on 10/14/2006 4:08:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: NativeNewYorker

Pic officially stolen.


49 posted on 10/14/2006 4:09:08 PM PDT by IslandJeff (FR mail me to be added to the Type I Diabetes ping list)
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To: Pokey78
Is the literal translation of Muslim "pissed off"

It seems accurate.

50 posted on 10/14/2006 4:10:26 PM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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