Horowitz/Poe: The Shadow Party

California Republic ^ | 10/13/06 | Richard Kirk

[tgambill]

A month after John Kerry’s narrow loss to George W. Bush in 2004’s Presidential election, Eli Pariser boasted to his MoveOn associates, “Now it’s our party. We bought it. We own it.” The huge question raised by this audacious declaration was, “Who are ‘we’?” That query is answered in David Horowitz and Richard Poe’s new book, The Shadow Party—a work that also explains how this political takeover was accomplished. In the authors’ own words, “This book documents how, through an extraordinary series of political, legal, and financial maneuvers, an unlikely network of radical activists and activist billionaires gained de facto control over the Democratic Party’s campaign apparatus….”

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The eminence grise lurking behind these machinations was and is George Soros, the billionaire financier and founder of the Open Society Institute. It was Soros who declared in November, 2003, that defeating President Bush was “the central focus of [his] life” and “a matter of life and death”—then devoted twenty-seven million dollars to accomplish that goal during the 2004 campaign cycle

[tgambill]

As for as insulting you, you started with Attitude...I'll get right back in your face online or in person as I am the same writing or in person. Share and discuss, agree or agree to disagree is all okay. Give me attitude I'll give you disdain and insult. It's a personality defect that I have....lolol...:)) You want to cool your jets, untangle your bunched up panties, so will I.

Now, relative to your JFK comment, I just didn't feel like giving too much detail. Sorry about that...so, after the Cuban missile crisis, this didn't allow the U.S. to undo Castro's control on Communist power. However, as I have researched, neither JFK nor Robert Kennedy could find no basis for the CIA's contention that there were missiles in Cuba. To date, the soil sample used to justify the bombing of the Chemical factory in Somalia, by Clinton, stating that the sample contained a certain chemical that gave indication the factory was producing.....nerve agent. My sources that go even beyond this report was HUMIT, and this source said that the soil sample indeed had indicators of the specific chemical, however, the sample did not come from Somalia.....Imagine that....

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http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/aug1998/bomb-a26.shtml

What are the real reasons for the US missile strikes?
By the Editorial Board

26 August 1998

The official American explanation for last week's missile strikes against targets in Sudan and Afghanistan has begun to crumble, with widespread reports in the international press challenging the Clinton administration's version of events.

The US claim that the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum was making a chemical component of nerve gas has been largely discredited. Newspapers in Britain have carried interviews with the former technical manager of the plant, Tom Carnaffin, a British citizen from Northumberland, who denied the plant had anything to do with weapons production.

Carnaffin told the Observer, the Sunday edition of the daily Guardian, "The loss of this factory is a tragedy for the rural communities who need those medicines." He said the factory had been built by the Baaboud family and was in the process of being sold to a Saudi investor.

The Observer also reported that the US government had determined there was no nerve gas on the site before the bombing. Clinton knew the plant was a civilian facility when he ordered the launching of cruise missiles against it, the newspaper said.

Other reports noted that the Al-Shifa factory was neither clandestine nor closely guarded. There were multiple entrances to neighboring streets, with ordinary doors, rather than the airlocks and other precautions that would be required for a facility manufacturing nerve gas. The New York Times admitted these facts, then cited "theories ... that the plant that was destroyed was only lightly guarded as a deception to keep suspicions low."................................

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Okay, back to JFK....the United States worked out with Russia to remove the U.S. Missiles from Turkey that were aimed at the Soviet Union if they removed their missiles from Cuba. If there were no Soviet missiles in Cuba, then no trade off could be accomplished. It then became necessary to "create" a crisis in Cuba......

Now, interestingly enough there are Americans that are high up that have figured this mess out. One was in fact JFK. He felt that the American Government created the Castro government, and later imposed the Castro Government on the people.....

Listen carefully, according to the New York Times of December 11, 1963, JFK gave an interview in which he made this statement. He was assassinated about 3 weeks before the Times Printed the interview. I think that I said taped or aired.... I meant printed, but goofed. Either way, it came from him and he said it.

Now, The article was written by Jean Daniel, foreign editor of L'Express, which was a French newspaper. It was in fact printed on December 11, 1963. He reports that he had made a recent trip to the U.S. and then to Cuba, which enabled him to establish in effect a dialogue between President Kennedy and Premier Fidel Castro. He first interviewed JFK and then presented his views to "Dr. Castro". He was to return for a second interview with JFK after having heard Dr. Castro's remarks on U.S. Policy. From reading Dr. Castro's comments, it is apparent that those who would even begin to believe that Castro was remotely responsible for the Assassination of JFK is ALL WET. General de Gualle felt that communism in Cuba was only the accidental and temporary form of the will to be independent from the United States. In any case, when questioned, JFK was quite emphatic;

Quote: "I will tell you this: We know perfectly what has happened in Cuba, to the unhappiness of all of us. I have followed personally since the beginning, the evolution of these events with grave concern. There are few matters to which I have devoted so much attention. The conclusions that I have drawn go much further than the European analyses."

"I think that there is not a country in the world including all the regions of Africa, and including any country under colonial colonization, the humiliation, the exploitation have been worse than those which ravaged Cuba, the result in part of the policy of my country, during the regime of Batista. I think that we spawned, constructed, entirely fabricated, without knowing it, the Castro movement. I think that the accumulation of such errors has endangered all of Latin America. The Alliance for Progress has no other aim than to reverse this disastrous course.

"In a certain sense, it is as though Batista were the incarnation of some of the sins committed by the United States. Now we must pay for those sins."

JFK goes on and on...and what Castro has to say is just as interesting. So, the implications are, JFK figured this out, and was being open minded, honest and was going to do something about it. It also indicates that we (Americans) have this fantasy that the President controls the CIA or whomever. This is an honest admission that the Presidency does not have full control of what goes on.......or even what action is taken.

To go a step further, in my humble opinion and based on contrary evidence to the Warrent commission, his murder was carried out publicly, because they wanted the political leaders in this country to know who was in control. There has been a phenomenal amount of research done on the case of President Kennedy's murder, and it almost seems that when he died, the tide changed in this country. The forces behind the assassination of Kennedy were able to change the course of history at will, and with the new-found confidence at this groups' success, the power they gained, literally allowed them to exert complete control over the American government.

It might be interesting to note that huge oil fields had been discovered off the coast of Vietnam in 1950. If I may add a comment that certain important, wealthy folks was maybe able to use oil as a ploy to ferment a fear that Vietnam would be lost to Communism, the way Cuba was. However, Kennedy wanted to end American involvement in the war, and in October, 1963, he recalled 1,000 so-called advisers. He planned to bring home all American soldiers by 1965. After Kennedy was eliminated, the U. S. government escalated the war in Vietnam. His hatred of the CIA was well-known. After the Bay of Pigs disaster, he said he wanted "to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds." Using a federal statute, Kennedy was going to force J. Edgar Hoover, to retire, because he wanted somebody who better represented his New Frontier. Conservative in his economics, he intended to circumvent the Federal Reserve by issuing nearly $5 million in non-interest bearing U.S. bank notes(Executive Order #11110), much like Abraham Lincoln. And to top matters off, after winning the showdown with Russia over Cuba, he signed a limited nuclear test ban treaty with the Soviets. Needless to say, Kennedy's agenda was contrary to the plans for the Globalist. As Jacqueline Kennedy was getting ready to leave Air Force One when it arrived in Washington, still wearing the bloodstained clothing from Dallas, she said:

Quote: "I want them to see what they have done." A very strange comment to make, since Oswald was already in custody. In 1968, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy promised an honorable end to the Vietnam War, and with Martin Luther King, Jr. delivering the Black support, Kennedy would have been easily elected President. That however, did not fit into the plans of "other agendas" who wanted to prolong the war, and wanted Nixon to be President, because he represented the instrument that would perpetuate their goals. Again, there is plenty of evidence that points to a conspiracy in the assassinations of Bobby Kennedy, and King. The likelihood that the same forces were involved is evident, because again, the course of the nation was altered to fit into their plans.


This is also another reason that I just made a comment and not give the whole story. The New York Republic and Jean Daniel published this double interview on November 27, 1963. The New York Times Published it on December 11, 1963. Would you call this dodging the issue or maybe not.....I'm not a Dodger Fan, but like the New York Yankees. :))

So, I'm guessing you are in your 20's, and a college student...due to your :)) comment to DTA, "now leave me alone"....lolol.... So, want to share information and debate, agree to disagee or whatever or keep this type of posting continuing.....??

[piasa]

To date, the soil sample used to justify the bombing of the Chemical factory in Somalia, by Clinton, stating that the sample contained a certain chemical that gave indication the factory was producing.....nerve agent. My sources that go even beyond this report was HUMIT, and this source said that the soil sample indeed had indicators of the specific chemical, however, the sample did not come from Somalia.....Imagine that....

Your "HUMIT" source was an idiot, and worse than that, he was apparently lost. It's HUMINT, not "HUMIT" and Clinton didn't bomb a chemical factory in Somalia. The chemical factory was in SUDAN.

[tgambill]

Oppppps, I forgot to mention. I had said that I'm so far neutral, but, guess what.........not any more. :)))

[tgambill]

oh yes you are right.......okay, Sudan, my mistake. there, feel better now. And it was still fabricated.....

[tgambill]

My my, another one with their panties in a bunch...Kinda uncomfortable isn't it. Wow, some ill folks here on this site. Touch a little nerve did we. hmmmmmmmmmm??

[tgambill]

My HUMINT source was a government agent....and you missed the whole point by your attitude and absolute ignorant rantings.......why some of you post here really makes me wonder if you have a life or just lonely little boys looking for a home....it's just mind boggling....

[piasa]

How's Lyndon doing these days?

[tgambill]

:)) He's on the hot hot seat......lolol...good question. Would love to have some ice water I bet.

In any case, regardless of the approach, thanks for the correction. I was somewhat careless in the name and the spelling.

Now back to business.............

[tgambill]

" To date, the soil sample used to justify the bombing of the Chemical factory in Somalia,"

Significant error on my part...I meant to write "Sudan" as the reference also suggested, but I didn't accomplish that and the correct spelling is "HUMINT"......instead of Hermit...:)) or HUMIT or whatever... lolol...too much coffee this morning. But I don't inhale it....:)) just drink it.

[Hoplite]

Keep up the good work, Tom.

So happy the Serbs chose you as one of their paladins to champion their cause.

[kronos77]

"Keep up the good work, Tom.

So happy the Serbs chose you as one of their paladins to champion their cause."

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Is this an act of your surrender ?
LOL!

Oh, Hoppy... If in some case, you dont exist, you shoul dbe invented!

[kronos77]

I remember footage of bombing of "chemical" plant in Sudan.
Man, bottles with pills were all over the place! I dont know if they messed up with chenicals, but that wasnt some significan target.

[Hoplite]

Is this an act of your surrender ?

You keep making it a point to underline your obtuseness, don't you.

[earlyamerican]

Horowitz is a godsend. I've got to get this book.

[tgambill]

Hopelite, this isn't really for the Serbs, Albanians; it's because I'm American and we are doing the wrong things and the American people are not getting the truth.

It's God, Country and Corps. God is first.....in that sequence. God is truth. simple.

[Hoplite]

this isn't really for the Serbs

Yeah, I understand that.

The whole point of my comment is that you can bet they're reading your rants and wondering WTF they were thinking when they decided you'd be welcome in their corner.

Have a ball at the SUC convention next weekend, Tom.

You are still going, aren't you?

[tgambill]

Paladin? Oh, remember him. Have Gun Will Travel....Think I'll order the first season if they sell in on the web......

[tgambill]

I'm not in anyone's corner....If it's the truth, I don't care who reads this. I can be mistaken, and if so, I'll admit it, learn from it and move on. I'm on God's side, and what is truthful.....no matter what.

However, it just so happens, that they are demonized and are mostly the victims. Certainly the Serbian paramilitaries did a number and committed crimes....they are guilty and the Serbs are taking care of that despite their own internal strife. If you hadn't heard it was the Serbs that arrested Milosevic.....both sides have guilty parties....the Albanians also need to own up their criminals as well instead of them holding office.

I'm afraid that I might miss the SUC unfortunately.....got to make a living. But, if I were asked to speak again, I would, if I did speak and was asked elaborate why I'm involved I would respond with the same answer no matter what, count on it.

[kronos77]

Hoppy, im with tom here. if court finds one, one hundred or one thousand Serb soldiers, civillians or whomever guilty for attrocities, I will be first to say "put a bullet in the backs of their heads:" hell, ill be the first to pull the trigger. For me there is no difference between Serb or Albanian criminal, murderer or any other bastard. But here I defend Serbian nation, people from attrocities commited by new Gobels and IV reich, or UN as some calls it.

If there is no difference between murderers by nationality, than there is also no difference between victimes or richeous people. And I belive that Serbs are victimes in most casess.

[FormerLib]

Hoplite's surrender is accompanied by his putting on the kneepads. Since we aren't Muslims, we don't get to enjoy that spectacle (Thank the risen Lord!).