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It's war already, says spy
Herald Sun Sunday ^ | 18 October 2006 | Mark Dunn

Posted on 10/17/2006 5:37:26 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

WESTERN countries are fighting World War III and it would last a generation, former head of Israel's Mossad spy network, Efraim Halevy, said in Melbourne yesterday.

Mr Halevy, who ran Israel's intelligence agency between 1998 and 2002, said a major terror attack was possible in Australia.

But he said the public didn't appear to realise the seriousness of the threat.

"The threats today are aimed at destroying the whole way of life in democratic societies . . . of turning back the wheel more than 1000 years," Mr Halevy said.

The security adviser to former prime minister Ariel Sharon and now head of strategic studies at Hebrew University of Jerusalem, said Islamic militancy was squarely aimed at establishing an international caliphate.

"The goals here are global. The goals here are absolute," Mr Halevy said.

"This is a modern-type third world war . . . (but) it's very difficult to convince the public there is a war at all."

Mr Halevy said the three major threats the world faced were weapons of mass destruction, Islamic terrorism and risk of rocketing oil and energy prices, and said all those threats emanated from the Middle East.

"If the world is threatened by the Middle East there is no option but for the world to come to the Middle East," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrine; crushislam; gwot; israel; moozies; mossad; worldwariii; wot
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If we don't win this one, we'll never be in a position to fight another!
1 posted on 10/17/2006 5:37:27 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

War sucks. But if your going to fight for your believes you must fight it as a war!


2 posted on 10/17/2006 5:42:39 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals will stop at nothing.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"WESTERN countries are fighting World War III and it would last a generation, former head of Israel's Mossad spy network, Efraim Halevy, said in Melbourne yesterday. "

It is indeed WWIII and Europe has already lost to islam because of their economic dependence on muslim immigrants. The entire Western world is infected with the bacteria of islamofacism and the ignorant dupes are focused on who in Hollywood is screwing whom, and consumed with modern "rights" like homosexual marriage and fairness for captured terrorists. The West has taken its collective eye off the ball, and we are losing the war against islam precisely because we are winning the so-called "war on terror". Those of you with insight will know what I mean.

3 posted on 10/17/2006 5:46:14 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Aussie Dasher

OK, but it's World War IV.


4 posted on 10/17/2006 5:46:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Aussie Dasher

If we fought all-out, we'd win quickly.

The US has 1000 times the fighting potential of all the countries in the Middle East put together.


5 posted on 10/17/2006 5:48:37 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Aussie Dasher

This war will last until they fear us more than they despise us.


6 posted on 10/17/2006 5:50:56 PM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: proxy_user
I'd say start with removing all Islamic armories starting in Mecca and Medina and working outward.
7 posted on 10/17/2006 5:52:34 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Aussie Dasher; TigerLikesRooster; neverdem; bitt; txradioguy; MoJo2001; SevenofNine; Cindy

justa ping.


8 posted on 10/17/2006 5:53:33 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Aussie Dasher
All of this talk is interesting, but until we start dropping bombs on people --just to let them know we are serious-- then none of this will change.

They want our blood. So, let's take theirs first.

Am I the only one that thinks this action, while perhaps "imprudent", would save lives in the big picture?

I don't know what it is, but I always feel like I'm missing a piece of the picture. It seems like there is a "right" thing to do.

The PC mindset is what will end our civilization. We need to remember that the right thing might always be the "nice" thing. As badly as I'd love for everyone to be at peace, that's not possible when "the other guy's" idea of a good time is slitting my throat.

Reminds me of that scene out of Indiana Jones. Here is this masked villian slashing his sword around ready for action and, there, right on our hip, is a pistol. My dad always reminded me of the old axiom, "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.".

So, what exactly are we waiting for? Hmmm?

9 posted on 10/17/2006 5:54:13 PM PDT by mattdono (150 Million bloodthirsty Arabs vs. 4.8 Million Jewish Israelis. That's not fair. [Off Sarcasm])
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To: Cicero
OK, but it's World War IV.

Or as someone here argued, World War 0, started around 622 AD.

10 posted on 10/17/2006 5:57:00 PM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London)
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To: Jet Jaguar; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; ...


11 posted on 10/17/2006 6:02:32 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo; Just A Nobody

Ping


12 posted on 10/17/2006 6:05:24 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Jet Jaguar; bitt

"It's war already, says spy"

I agree.

THANKS for the pings.


13 posted on 10/17/2006 6:10:50 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Aussie Dasher

"In war, there is no substitute for Victory"....MacArthur


14 posted on 10/17/2006 6:11:08 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: devolve; bitt; Aussie Dasher; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; Smartass; Kenny Bunk; abb; Milhous; ...
The goals here are global. The goals here are absolute

AND THE SHEEPLE JUST WANNA BE NICE


15 posted on 10/17/2006 6:17:45 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: omega4412

Good point.


16 posted on 10/17/2006 6:19:00 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bitt

17 posted on 10/17/2006 6:20:26 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: potlatch

"Ok, who lit one!

!)


18 posted on 10/17/2006 6:22:08 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (God Bless the United States of America and all that defend her hard earned freedom!)
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To: Cicero

If these Eastern Putzes pull of a few more biggies, the rest of the world will turn them into a glass factory.


19 posted on 10/17/2006 6:24:29 PM PDT by AGP
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To: Aussie Dasher

"If the world is threatened by the Middle East there is no option but for the world to come to the Middle East."

An unequvocal affirmation of the Bush Doctrine of Preemption, aka we're coming over to your backyard to kick your ass, so that you can't come near ours.

Solid common sense, that any flyover territory, gun-toting, bible-thumpin', homophobic white Christian hillbilly can understand fully by the time he is 10 years old.


20 posted on 10/17/2006 6:24:32 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Mr. Jazzy

LOL


21 posted on 10/17/2006 6:25:01 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: freema

Thanks for the ping. It's definitely war and I hope not too many more Americans are going to die before the spineless Dems realize it.


22 posted on 10/17/2006 6:25:43 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: potlatch

A herd of degenerates. LOL.


23 posted on 10/17/2006 6:26:12 PM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: Don Corleone
except, if you (are male *and*) submit to Islam and don't make trouble for the leaders, then you can have "instant sexual gratification" why else do you think france, san francisco, hollywood, gay congress and the demonicrats are on all the muzzie side?
24 posted on 10/17/2006 6:27:06 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Milhous; devolve

Kinda like the Dems!


25 posted on 10/17/2006 6:28:46 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
One moon to the next.


26 posted on 10/17/2006 6:31:27 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Jet Jaguar

DAMN I think we are WW3 right now or beginning of 21th century war conflict that probably would take 10 or 30 years to win


27 posted on 10/17/2006 6:34:58 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: george76; devolve

LOL, you mean one 'moonie' to the next!!


28 posted on 10/17/2006 6:43:02 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Snickersnee
That will be hard to accomplish since they pray for death....
29 posted on 10/17/2006 6:44:34 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (M.I.E. Mainer In Exile I'll come back when the Massholes go home.)
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To: potlatch

that pic is insane! what/where/how/why?


30 posted on 10/17/2006 6:51:25 PM PDT by bitt
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To: mattdono
They want our blood. So, let's take theirs first.

My sentiments exactly. TOTAL PACIFICATION of the enemy, as in WWII, is the ONLY way fight a WAR. That means breaking everything they have and killing everyone who doesn't unconditionally surrender!!!

31 posted on 10/17/2006 6:55:00 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: bitt; devolve

I found it on the forum a couple of years ago. Looks like some cult gathering. Just named 'sheeple'.


32 posted on 10/17/2006 6:55:16 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Cicero

Seems some have forgotten the almost 100,000 US KIA we lost in WW III (It wasn't cold.)


33 posted on 10/17/2006 6:59:11 PM PDT by ASA Vet (If you know how many firearms you have, you don't have enough yet.)
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To: Paladin2

I dont think there are armories there. How about we make a quick grab of Mecca and make them come to it to free it of infidels.


34 posted on 10/17/2006 7:05:21 PM PDT by omega4179 (Studds (D) MA +alcohol+pederast rape+17year old=5 more terms)
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To: PISANO

Disagree. This is less like WWI/WWII (one war that) and much more like our Indian Wars in the US. We need more Andy Jacksons and Wm Shermans.


35 posted on 10/17/2006 7:08:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Paladin2
I'd say start with removing all Islamic armories starting in Mecca and Medina and working outward.

Just nuke Mecca... that would be my first act within minutes of taking the oath of office if I were elected president...

36 posted on 10/17/2006 7:12:32 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: potlatch


Nice

Animate that one


37 posted on 10/17/2006 7:19:38 PM PDT by devolve (now_playing:__ MONEY HONEY -- Harry Reid)
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To: Aussie Dasher

One wants to say "D'uh" after Homer Simpson, except that the majority here in the U.S. is busy shopping, and the leaders are busy hosting Ramadan dinners at the White House. Mark Helprin said pretty much the same thing right after 9/11. others too, and what? If we wish hard enough Dorothy, it'll all go away, won't it...


38 posted on 10/17/2006 7:24:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The liberals won't realize the danger until its too late. Even the cowardly fools won't be able to muster the will to fight. Damn them to hell!


39 posted on 10/17/2006 7:24:37 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: devolve
Animate that one

I'm not going to write lol to that, it's too darned funny! Where shall I start??

40 posted on 10/17/2006 7:25:05 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: TheCrusader

The West has taken its collective eye off the ball, and we are losing the war against islam

The liberals do not see this as a war at all IMHO. They see it as a necessary step towards a world government in which we all 'participate'. As another poster said, their fascination with Islam is key to the fact that, when the Dems take over the W.H. and Congress, they will hand the U.S. over like a plate of appetizers.


41 posted on 10/17/2006 7:30:53 PM PDT by hardworking (Just once, I'd like to vote for a candidate who's actually had to meet a payroll.)
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To: mattdono
So, what exactly are we waiting for? Hmmm?

Unfortunately I think is going to take a major terrorist attack on the US in which many thousands af people die and American muslims are shown on the six o'clock bad news dancing in the streets in celebration.

42 posted on 10/17/2006 8:25:17 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Chuckster

We will be lucky if the muslims do cause a major terrorist attack in the US to make people wake up.
If this doesn't happen, then we will probably slowly boil until we're all muslims.


43 posted on 10/17/2006 8:40:14 PM PDT by Greystoke
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


44 posted on 10/17/2006 10:56:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: freema

Thanks for the ping. War it is.


45 posted on 10/17/2006 11:46:18 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Wow, are there still people who don't believe this?

Maybe they should be introduced to the comparative birth rates....

46 posted on 10/17/2006 11:49:20 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Chuckster; mattdono; Aussie Dasher
I sat back like a typical Dem, I read and listened, UNTIL...You nailed it. That is exactly what is going to happen. Has anyone noticed that our wonderful service men and women (my daughter being one of them) are spred out all over the world. T.C.B, protecting our rights, dotting every I and crossing every T. North Korea makes a nuke statement and quick like bunnies we double our troops there. QUESTION??? Whose here, in the states. Who's going to fight when they walk right into the front door of each and everyone of our houses? The cowards, gay men/women who can't enlist, the veterans who already served? I know, President Bush (He didn't "fight" in Viet Nam, papa Bush bought him a PASS) and his crew of "Yes Men". No....This is World War III, and it's going to play in every major city in the U.S.A.

I don't mean to go on and on but didn't anyone see this coming. The only shot we have is to STOP THEM, IN THEIR TRACKS. Go there like we did to Japan in WWII, We had to do it twice but then IT WAS DONE. The whole world has lost respect for the us. We either have to get INTO THIS DOG FIGHT or go to the tailor and get fitted for robes. A berqua for us gals. (sorry, I guess I'd best learn to spell it before I order it) I'll die fighting before I wear one of those things. Thanks for letting me rant, you guys are awesome. May God bless us all!!

47 posted on 10/18/2006 3:39:18 PM PDT by sassyb
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To: sassyb

I couldn't have said it better sassyb. I fought my war and now I'm pushing sixty and partially disabled but I'll be damned if I'll bow down to Mecca. Unfortunately, judging by the last few elections, about half of US would rather switch than fight. Possibly they think it won't come to that. I think they are just too decadent to care and don't want to be bothered with reality. Sadly, it's a toss-up who will decide our fate.


48 posted on 10/19/2006 1:07:41 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Chuckster

Sorry I didn't get back to you immediately, but better late than never, right?! Thanks for your service of this Country and for MY freedom. I know, by your age, what war you fought. (Please note I said WAR not police action). My brother fought there too. You men did not get the acknowledgement you so desperately deserved, that was an American sin. So I say to you Chuck. Thank you, and May God bless you and all your loved ones. We are forever in your debt!!!!!!!


49 posted on 10/20/2006 10:23:30 AM PDT by sassyb
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To: potlatch

Is that a fat farm?


50 posted on 10/20/2006 10:25:14 AM PDT by JZelle
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