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Bishop Fabbro on Voting: Abortion and Euthanasia are Priority over War and Death Penalty
Life Site News ^ | 10.18.06 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 10/18/2006 8:12:22 PM PDT by Coleus

CORNWALL, ON, October 18, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an interview with LifeSiteNews.com today, Bishop Ronald Fabbro of London, spoke about the deliberations of the Canadian bishops currently meeting in Cornwall for their annual plenary session.   Bishop Fabbro, who is President of the Catholic Organization for Life and Family (COLF) told LifeSiteNews.com that the Pope had encouraged the Canadian bishops, in their recent 'ad limina' visits with him, to speak out on issues of life and family, and to refuse to be silenced.  "We as bishops have been encouraged in our ad limina visits not to be sidelined on this and that we need to be speaking up," he said.

The bishops addressed matters of life and family and Catholics in political life, but, said the bishop, it was a matter of pastoral discussion of issues rather than making resolutions.   Asked if the Canadian Bishops would be taking action on Rome's direction to refuse communion to obstinately pro-abortion Catholic politicians, Bishop Fabbro said "no, we haven't made a decision to do that."  He explained that in the area of life and family and politics, "we didn't have any specific resolutions, it was to deepen our understanding and have an opportunity as bishops to talk pastorally about the issues that we have been facing."

"What we discussed as bishops was the role that we have in formation of conscience," he said.  Asked about some Catholic politicians and lay people who try to justify support for abortion by appeals to conscience, the Bishop dismissed these as not being intellectually honest. "The pope talks about how reason becomes blind, and I think we experience that in our society," said Bishop Fabbro.  "People are taking a very secular mentality, they're formed by the culture and that's how their opinions about different ethical issues.  That is not what the Church talks about when she talks about formation of conscience - genuinely searching the depths of our being to see how God is enlightening us about those authentically human values."

"I think the role of our church is to help people truly form their conscience correctly," said the COLF President. "I think we have to be careful when forming conscience," he concluded.  LifeSiteNews.com asked about distinctions some Catholics make with regard to election issues suggesting that concerns such as engagement in war and the death penalty are on par with abortion and euthanasia, in terms of priority in political decision making.   The Bishop disagreed with such an approach saying, when it comes to "abortion and euthanasia, we have to see those as fundamental human rights that need to take precedence in our formation of conscience - because all of our other rights are based on the right to life.  So I think we do have to be careful about indicating a priority there - a priority when voting."

The bishop's comments in that regard echo the sentiments of now-Pope Benedict XVI.  Prior to his election, then-Cardinal Ratzinger intervened into the US Bishops Conference task force on Catholics in political life with a document saying: "There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia."  (see the full documents here: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/apr/050419a.html )   Bishop Fabbro concluded the interview stressing the need for close relationships between bishops and the pro-life movement.  "We do have important partners in the pro-life movement we need to be working with," he said.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionlist; bishopfabbro; catholic; euthanasia; prolife
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1 posted on 10/18/2006 8:12:24 PM PDT by Coleus
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2 posted on 10/18/2006 8:12:59 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: Coleus

Yes, abortion is far more a concern than war.

If the US were even to suffer a terrorist attack everyday in which 100 Americans lost their lives, that would only amount to 36 500 deaths per year. This is hardly comparable to the 1 million deaths by abortion annually.


3 posted on 10/18/2006 8:40:32 PM PDT by Joahob (Government is not the solution; government is the problem.)
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To: Joahob

Over and above any moral or ethical issues (which I am not discarding at all!), this makes the most absolute kind of sense.

Modern government is a numbers game. He with the most numbers (people) wins. Abortion and euthanasia reduce the number of people on the side of the West and Christianity. Something like that has far more impact than a simple war or the occasional death sentence.


4 posted on 10/18/2006 8:55:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Joahob
...terrorist attack everyday in which 100 Americans lost their lives...

You just picked a random number "out of a hat". In one day they killed about 3,000 people. They are committed to kill ALL infidels, as in non-muslims.

On the other hand, non-muslims, meaning U.S. citizens, are the ones who are destroying the unborn children.

There is a comparison...the murder of the innocents.

The Catholic bishops and I stand together on the evil of abortion, yet they have lost credibility with me in the cover-up of pedophile priests.

Who can we trust?

5 posted on 10/19/2006 12:28:24 AM PDT by IIntense
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To: Coleus
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6 posted on 10/19/2006 5:44:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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7 posted on 11/05/2006 8:35:29 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus

I agree.

The slope is already slipping to euthanasia for the disabled and elderly.

We just insist to be taken to a Catholic Hosp miles for even routine tests....they don't abort babies and have a great deal of compassion.


8 posted on 11/05/2006 10:21:52 PM PST by Global2010
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To: Coleus

Good bishop. Hard to believe priests refuse to well no it isn't. And there is such a shortage already. Maybe one day Catholics will save the country or what's left of the flock of the dispersion. One can hope.


9 posted on 11/05/2006 11:29:17 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Salvation

I'm with Bishop Fabbro!


10 posted on 11/06/2006 12:04:18 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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11 posted on 11/06/2006 4:27:12 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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12 posted on 11/06/2006 5:49:07 AM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Spktyr

Abortion and euthanasia reduce the number of people on the side of the West and Christianity. Something like that has far more impact than a simple war or the occasional death sentence.

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Well said!


13 posted on 11/06/2006 6:03:47 AM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: Joahob
"If the US were even to suffer a terrorist attack everyday in which 100 Americans lost their lives, that would only amount to 36 500 deaths per year. This is hardly comparable to the 1 million deaths by abortion annually."

True, and stunning.

But there's more to it than even that. With war, your direct aim is not killing, and certainly you're not targetting the innocent.

That first claim may seem counterintuitive, but it's true: you're not directly intending to kill enemy combatants, but to stop them. This can be proven by the fact that after a battle, enemy combatants who have been stopped (but not killed) are given medical care, hospitalized, and held under humane conditions as prisoners, thus proving that the cental intention of warfare is not to kill --- not even to kill aggressors--- but to stop them.

However, abortion is the directly intended killing of the innocent. And not just "innocent" --- it's your own child.

That's why it's always, intrinsically and grievously wrong; whereas a justly-waged war can be honorable, and truly in the service of justice and peace.

14 posted on 11/06/2006 9:59:44 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very true.

An Army that simply focuses on killing enemy combatants will not necessarily win. In WWI Germany had a far higher kill rate than any other nation and a much lower cost per enemy soldier killed, but it still lost the war.


15 posted on 11/08/2006 5:22:31 PM PST by Joahob (Government is not the solution; government is the problem.)
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