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Hutchison says she wouldn't have supported Iraq invasion if she'd known there were no WMDs
Austin American-Stateman ^ | Friday, October 20, 2006 | W. Gardner Selby

Posted on 10/20/2006 2:18:37 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper

SAN ANTONIO — In a debate telecast statewide, Republican U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison repeated her call Thursday for the United States to maintain its commitment to stabilizing Iraq rather than "cutting and running because times are rough."

Hutchison, a senator for more than 13 years, also said she would not have voted for the United States to invade the country in 2003 if she'd known there were no weapons of mass destruction there.

Barbara Ann Radnofsky Democratic challenger says Texas needs fresh leadership.

Scott Lanier Jameson Libertarian says labeling enemies incites challenge.

Responding to a reporter's question, Hutchison said: "If I had known then what I know now about the weapons of mass destruction, which was a key reason I voted to go in there, I would not vote to go into Iraq the way we did.

"And I have to say I don't think the president would have asked for that vote either," Hutchison said, saying President Bush was "trying to make sure that America was not hit with another 9/11, with a weapon of mass destruction."

Democrat Barbara Ann Radnofsky seized on Hutchison's reflection, suggesting that Hutchison was among senators who failed to read intelligence information that would have illuminated the likelihood that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction.

"What a telling, telling comment from my colleague," said Radnofsky, who favors setting a timetable for taking U.S. troops out of Iraq.

Hutchison said it would be irresponsible to withdraw because Iraq has become "a terrorist breeding ground." Referring to Radnofsky, she added: "This is a very big point of difference between us."

The hourlong debate was historic from its start because this year marks the first time two women represent the major parties in a Texas U.S. Senate race. The pair met for the first time Thursday in the lobby of KLRN-TV, where the debate co-sponsored by the League of Women Voters of Texas was taped shortly before being broadcast statewide on public TV stations and C-SPAN.

The two were joined by Scott Lanier Jameson, 40, the Libertarian nominee who closed with a plea to voters to consider all Libertarian candidates.

Jameson expressed discomfort with the U.S. government labeling other nations such as Iran as enemies.

"It makes us sound like we're developing a checklist of who we're going to take on next," he said. "It's almost as if we're challenging them."

Hutchison, who has been the front-runner, fell into no outright gaffes in the nine-question event, with the only surprise being her hindsight on Iraq.

She and Radnofsky, a Houston lawyer making her first bid for elective office, vigorously spelled out differences they have aired during the campaign.

Radnofsky criticized Hutchison for voting to build what she dubbed an impractical 700-mile fence along stretches of the U.S.-Mexico border. She said that, unlike Hutchison, she favors revising a law creating a prescription drug benefit for senior citizens so the government can negotiate lower drug prices with manufacturers.

Hutchison defended an immigration proposal she has outlined with Rep. Mike Pence, R-Indiana, that envisions the government establishing a more secure border before launching a system requiring illegal immigrants to leave the United States and apply at out-of-country centers for permission to return to work here. She called it a "starting point" toward compromise in Congress.

Jameson said that if a wall is going to be built, it should be around flood-prone New Orleans.

Hutchison, 63, filled the Senate seat long held by Lloyd Bentsen in 1993. She won election to her first full term a year later.

The former state treasurer and Texas House member has frequently said her dream is to serve as Texas governor, although she has passed up chances to run, including last year when she yielded to Gov. Rick Perry, who is seeking re-election next month.

Hutchison said last month that she decided to seek one more term only because of her seniority on the Appropriations Committee and within the Republican Party ranks.

"I've been able to do many things for Texas that would be hard to accomplish as a junior member," Hutchison said. "But this is certainly going to be my last term."

Hutchison conceded that she has backed off on a pledge in the early 1990s to serve no more than two terms, but said she still supports amending the Constitution to hold all senators to limits.

"I want to do what I think is best for Texas," she said.

Radnofsky, 50, left her partner position at Vinson & Elkins to campaign. Eclipsed by Hutchison in fundraising, she's tried to make up for the gulf by enlisting volunteers, having a frequently updated Web site and stressing a 40-page comparison of her positions on issues to what she considers Hutchison's poor record.

Radnofsky, who wore a purple blouse, said: "What this country needs for Texas is leadership that's new and fresh, that stands about 5-foot-9 and looks good in purple."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: hutchison; war; wmds
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To: Young Scholar

Well Young Scholar how long do you think it would have taken to put the WMD pieces together? Clearly there was the will and there was the infrastructure and the wealth. How long can any nation seriously deter a nation without taking any credible action? Oil for food demonstrated the folly of "pretend" deterence. As for building democracy, we did it in Germany, Japan, South Korea, the Phillepeans and to a certain extent Taiwan - it took a long time and a lot of money. We failed in South Vietnam and are on the verge of failing in Iraq. I believe we are safer for our efforts. I don't fear Germany, Japan, South Korea and others will build and distribute WMD. I think it is more likely in places where thugs maintain power through murder and torture. I'd also hate to see a world where terrorism always trumps democracy because good men chose to do nothing or don't want to spend more than 3 years doing it. The world has grown just too small for me to ignore the murders and rapes in a neighbor's house. WMD may yet thin the heard and make that small world much bigger in the future...not that it's any of our business. ;-)


101 posted on 10/20/2006 6:22:12 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: Txsleuth

Too bad there weren't others he should have cleared out of DC. All the X-42 bunch should have been sent packing. That was one weakness I saw at the start. Get the bags out and throw the garbage into the dumpster.


102 posted on 10/20/2006 6:23:24 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Friends don't let friends vote for RATS.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Jameson expressed discomfort with the U.S. government labeling other nations such as Iran as enemies.

Another reason why the LP will never win anything higher than dog catcher.

103 posted on 10/20/2006 6:24:16 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Txsleuth

Out of here for today.


104 posted on 10/20/2006 6:28:58 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Friends don't let friends vote for RATS.)
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To: Dog Gone
Ah, you're one of the conservative purists who looks for any excuse to punish a Republican who doesn't meet your exacting standards by voting for a person who represents your views even less.

If you kindly re-read the thread, the poster gave a valid explanation of this.

105 posted on 10/20/2006 6:35:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Arrowhead1952

See ya later....VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!


106 posted on 10/20/2006 6:43:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME--You need FR, you know you do, so please don't forget to donate!!)
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To: Prost1

I know there were other reasons, but in my opinion, only the threat of a nuclear or other large-scale WMD attack was enough to justify the invasion. The other reasons had merit, but I don't think they were compelling enough on their own to make such a war worth the costs (which is the same thing Senator Hutchison is saying).


107 posted on 10/20/2006 6:53:34 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Hutchison, a senator for more than 13 years, also said she would not have voted for the United States to invade the country in 2003 if she'd known there were no weapons of mass destruction there.

She is wrong on that one!!!

How does SHE knows there are NONE???

108 posted on 10/20/2006 7:00:17 PM PDT by danamco
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To: rhombus
Well Young Scholar how long do you think it would have taken to put the WMD pieces together?

That's hard to say, and given what we believed at the time, there certainly were good reasons to invade.

As for building democracy, it has become a useful goal when we've been involved in countries for other reasons (for instance, Germany or Japan), but on its own I doubt many would consider it a good reason for significant military operations in a country. Since we're in Iraq already, we should ceratinly make every effort to promote a stable government, but the goal of a stable government wouldn't have alone provided a sufficient reason to enter the country in the first place.

109 posted on 10/20/2006 7:00:29 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I have a pal who works for the government he helps
pro-american politicians win elections..... He just got back from Iraq and told me that in every other part of the world he finds a hot issue has the pol run on that...and he usually wins.

But in Iraq it didn't work cuz people just vote who their Imam tells them to.

The Western Ideals of Democracy and Liberty not to mention our boys lives are wasted on these savages.

Split it into 3 parts pull our guys into the Kurdish area and let the Sunnis and the Shia rip each other to shreds.
110 posted on 10/20/2006 7:03:04 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I read every post made by the poster before making mine. If you think the explanation is valid that's your opinion. We differ.

You never vote for the person who represents your views less than another candidate on the same ballot unless you're somewhat mentally handicapped or don't care about logic whatsoever.

Politicis 101. Get what you can get. And try to get more the next time.

Politics for retards. Vote for someone you don't like because it will teach the good guys to get better.


111 posted on 10/20/2006 7:11:29 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
No. If my vote meant the difference between Hutchison and Radnofsky, I'd bite the bullet and vote for Hutchison. But it doesn't. Hutchison will win this seat by a fairly wide margin, with or without my vote.

Dangerous way to think about things.

112 posted on 10/20/2006 7:42:23 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Your response is sickening to me. KBH and GWB relied on intelligence from the CIA. Tell me which party raped this agency (starting with Frank Church) and which party infested their philosophy - ala State Dept? Tell me which party has done everything they could to tie the hands of the intellegent agencies and continue to do that to this day? Don't dare spew this crap without understanding how we got to this point!D~


113 posted on 10/20/2006 7:50:42 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said Saturday (6-03-04) she supports a woman's right to choose to have an abortion before a fetus is viable outside of the womb.


114 posted on 10/20/2006 7:56:34 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Young Scholar

That's an opinion. Not the only one but an opinion.


115 posted on 10/21/2006 4:42:44 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Agreed. I just think it's a more traditionally conservative position than that taken by many neoconservatives.


116 posted on 10/21/2006 6:13:33 AM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Young Scholar

Yes you could be right but then i'm not sure there is a real consensus on what IS conservative and what isn't. Also something to consider, conservative ideals of 50 - 100 years ago just might have to be altered in a world where biological WMD can be concealed in a shaving kit and transported to our shores in less than a day. And yes, I'll acknowledge that I could just be worrying too much too. :-)


117 posted on 10/21/2006 6:47:43 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: KDD; Alberta's Child
Alberta's Child is right of course. It's not like the neo cons in power have made any secret of their intentions.

The Statement of Principles put out by by The Project for the New American Century clearly outlines their plans. I personally think Hanson and his buddies in the White House are wrong. Iraq is proving the opposite of their projections. Democracy may not, after all, be compatable with all cultures.


Okay. Time will tell.
118 posted on 10/21/2006 9:50:57 AM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: montag813
Well said. If a politician opposed the war for the reasons you cite, I'd have no problem with it.

I'm still gonna hold my nose and take some anti-nausea pills and vote republican.

119 posted on 10/21/2006 9:52:18 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

I'm not taking a chance that KBH could lose - I'm voting for her. If it makes you feel better, just vote straight republican. That way you can feel like you're just voting for the party and not an individual.


120 posted on 10/21/2006 10:48:04 AM PDT by Warriormom
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