Bush: US "enriched" by its Muslim population

1 posted on 10/21/2006 9:22:30 PM PDT by freedom44

3 posted on 10/21/2006 9:23:48 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)

Given the chance, Osama bin Laden would love to enrich -- highly enrich -- the population of a major American city.

4 posted on 10/21/2006 9:24:11 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)

6 posted on 10/21/2006 9:25:00 PM PDT by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)

"enriched" by its Muslim population

Ah yes, they bring such "vibrancy" to our communities, adding to the "rich tapestry."

(You made me puke, so I thought I'd return the favor ;)

7 posted on 10/21/2006 9:26:44 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

Until we learn that Muslims cannot co-exist with the west, this "War on Terror" is futile.

8 posted on 10/21/2006 9:27:05 PM PDT by ivy (Ivy's ex bf)

He has to say this

whether he means it or not.

9 posted on 10/21/2006 9:27:38 PM PDT by EveningStar

You know, after this Iraq adventure is put to rest, the WOT is over. We make nicey nice with the Mooslums, they give us the benefit of their religion........convert or die.

10 posted on 10/21/2006 9:29:16 PM PDT by jeremiah (Our military are not "fodder", but fathers and mothers and sons and daughters.)

Electioneering is electioneering. The U.S. is also "enriched" by its MS-13 population.

11 posted on 10/21/2006 9:31:09 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)

Funny, I don't feel enriched at all...just annoyed and pissed off.

12 posted on 10/21/2006 9:33:04 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")

Bush is doing what he has to do. That's just part of politics. Speaking for myself, I'm willing to give him a pass.

13 posted on 10/21/2006 9:33:17 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)

"There he goes again!"

14 posted on 10/21/2006 9:33:39 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)

Should have put on my waders before reading this. And a gas mask.

16 posted on 10/21/2006 9:34:45 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)

This is just politics. Bush is doing what he has to do. One shouldn't read too much into it.

17 posted on 10/21/2006 9:34:45 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)

Wayoo...you have nailed it!

18 posted on 10/21/2006 9:35:29 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)

One day we will learn...

19 posted on 10/21/2006 9:35:56 PM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)

Why does he have to say it?

20 posted on 10/21/2006 9:35:57 PM PDT by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)

To: Clintonfatigued

There appears to be a shocking lack of knowledge about Islam among policymakers in our Government (Pentagon included).

Ignorance about Islam prevails all through Government.

21 posted on 10/21/2006 9:36:25 PM PDT by ivy (Ivy's ex bf)

The United States could be enriched--in some areas--by Muslim Americans, but such enrichment wouldn't be because of Islam. Rather they individually could have useful qualities. Islam, in contrast, is a threat to the nation.

22 posted on 10/21/2006 9:36:39 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The r/l thing is Japanese, not pan-Asian, and, in any case, making a mockery of it is rude.)

To: freedom44; All

This is OLD NEWS. Please let's use the existing threads on this matter.

23 posted on 10/21/2006 9:38:39 PM PDT by montag813

24 posted on 10/21/2006 9:38:42 PM PDT by EveningStar

To: Clintonfatigued

"This is just politics."

So is war. Don't shrug your shoulders, the President speaks on your behalf.

25 posted on 10/21/2006 9:39:05 PM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)

Dear beloved Dubya,
Don't believe what they say to your face. Muslims hate you. I have personally heard them say this. Every day they think up ways to kill you and all US patriots. Please stop letting them into this country.

26 posted on 10/21/2006 9:39:11 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")

Yep.....it's "taquiahh" (sp) in reverse....

28 posted on 10/21/2006 9:41:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))

My computer needs an enema.

29 posted on 10/21/2006 9:41:28 PM PDT by zarf

I've had enough of the camels--t that comes out of this guys mouth when he speaks of Mooslims. Wake up, Mr. President!!!

30 posted on 10/21/2006 9:41:56 PM PDT by MrCFdovnh

I believe this is called 'pandering'.

I don't trust any muslim. Muslims will have to re-earn the trust they have destroyed.

They lie.

They hide their faces and in doing so they show they are cowards.

They mistreat women and use their children for fodder in order to further their 'religion of hate for all who are not muslim'

They do not adopt the ways and laws of counties they are living in that are not muslim.

Etc., etc., etc..

31 posted on 10/21/2006 9:44:33 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)

To: goodnesswins

Yep.....it's "taquiahh" (sp) in reverse....

I was trying to convince myself of that. Somehow I couldn't do it.

32 posted on 10/21/2006 9:44:45 PM PDT by MrCFdovnh

He does what he has to do. He has to deal in the real world.

33 posted on 10/21/2006 9:45:23 PM PDT by EveningStar

Bush said Islam is a religion that brings hope and comfort to more than a billion people around the world

Hope and comfort??????

34 posted on 10/21/2006 9:46:58 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe

To: Clintonfatigued

"This is just politics. Bush is doing what he has to do. One shouldn't read too much into it."

Just like he called the Minutemen "vigilantes" just after he signed away our sovereignty to the North American Union with Mexico and Canada. Then fought any attempts to control the borders.

I don't trust that man to wash my shorts. But I trust him more than Kerry. God, how did we get into this mess?

We need to "enrich" our Muslim population the hell out of here. What are we thinking?

35 posted on 10/21/2006 9:47:57 PM PDT by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)

Hope and comfort??????

Afterlife virgins.

36 posted on 10/21/2006 9:48:28 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

R O T F L M A O

I wonder if Bush still likes Christian white people. There is no indication of same.

37 posted on 10/21/2006 9:48:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)

38 posted on 10/21/2006 9:49:20 PM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)

Well jeez, you'd think after all the good things he has to say about Islam that the rest of the real world wouldn't be having their weekly Friday "Hate America" rallies after morning prayers.

39 posted on 10/21/2006 9:49:46 PM PDT by MrCFdovnh

No sale! They bombed us!

40 posted on 10/21/2006 9:50:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)

I would like to know the identity of the owner of the vise into which the president's scrota are squeezed.

41 posted on 10/21/2006 9:52:23 PM PDT by kilowhskey (Land of the free, because of the brave.)

To: AZRepublican

I've felt enriched quite a few times since the WTC attack in '93...

42 posted on 10/21/2006 9:54:26 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))

To: Clintonfatigued

I go back and forth between hoping and wondering.

43 posted on 10/21/2006 10:00:37 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)

To: Clintonfatigued

He could have passed on the whole situation rather than come off like a PC a$$ licker.
I deal with 2 Muslims on almost a daily basis. The one girl is VERy sweet and VERY Americanized and yet I keep an eye out at all times. I saw the Trade centers go down in person and I have my reasons to dislike Moslems . I also have the RIGHT to dislike Moslems. I wish Bush didn't make such wimpy remarks.

44 posted on 10/21/2006 10:03:05 PM PDT by sonic109

Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy...
MUSLIMS INSTRUCTED TO KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS [9:29-30] JUST FOR SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM [9:32]!
KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PROHIBITED:
KORAN [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.

THIS IS MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OF DUTCH FILM MAKER THEO van GOGH:
Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]

HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes. He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

AND MODERATE MUSLIMS TOO:
HADITH Sahih Muslim [5:2325] Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
A group would secede itself (from the Ummah) when there would be dissension among the Muslims. Out of the two groups who would be nearer the truth would kill them.

Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):
KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

UNEQUAL JUSTICE:
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:
KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:
KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN (Shakir translation): http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

...NOT.

ISLAM DELENDA EST!

45 posted on 10/21/2006 10:03:38 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)

To: stephenjohnbanker

Since when are Christians just 'White'? I believe Jesus was Middle Eastern far from white, do you see Christianity as a color?

46 posted on 10/21/2006 10:04:30 PM PDT by freedom44

To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Why do you vote for our President? Just wondering.

47 posted on 10/21/2006 10:05:04 PM PDT by freedom44

To: Jedi Master Pikachu

You seem to seperate Moslems from Islam in your post .
?????????????

48 posted on 10/21/2006 10:08:02 PM PDT by sonic109

Bush again displaying his ignorance of the enemy.

49 posted on 10/21/2006 10:11:20 PM PDT by Memphis Moe

The same was Christians can be separated from Christianity. Not all Muslims actually adhere to strict or even a moderate degree of Islam, and are more socio-cultural Muslims, sort of akin to many supposed Christians in Europe who simply label themselves as Christian because their ancestors did. The Islamic world has its own group of de facto atheists/agnostics who self-identify as Muslim. They should be Christian, but at least they are not much of a physical threat, as Islamic fundamentalists would be.

50 posted on 10/21/2006 10:14:21 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The r/l thing is Japanese, not pan-Asian, and, in any case, making a mockery of it is rude.)

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