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Neanderthal man walks among us, Poland's far-right says
AFP via Yahoo! News ^ | Mon Oct 23, 2006 | Jean-Luc Testault

Posted on 10/24/2006 10:55:25 AM PDT by lizol

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To: Centurion2000

She's cool.


101 posted on 10/24/2006 8:37:56 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: sticker

"they are not from this planet"

We are your overlords.

"Of course no one as wonderful as a redhead could be from this planet.(just in case the wife is watching)"

Good [and most wise] 'last second' recovery, there....LOL!


102 posted on 10/24/2006 8:40:58 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Standard (American) Creationism currently suggests that Neanderthals were people who obeyed the order to spread out after the Flood, and while fully human, were somewhat distinct from the rest of humanity that lives today (and whose ancestors were pressured to spread out after Babel).

You got to be kidding!

How many of the findings of science does this "scenario" ignore?

103 posted on 10/24/2006 8:54:49 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Macroevolutionists tend to overlook that fact--that Neanderthal's cranium was bigger than modern humans.

False. It was scientists who discovered this in the first place.

What, do you think creationists are out there doing paleontology?

104 posted on 10/24/2006 8:56:33 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: OB1kNOb

NExt time maybe do a little research?


105 posted on 10/24/2006 8:56:57 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Face it, every empire comes to an end, and ours is on the down hill slope.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Creationism is popping up all over the news, with polls of people who support Creationism in large numbers. If the average Joe is increasingly skeptical of Macroevolutionism, surely it is logical that an increasing amount of scientists would be, too?

Sorry, that happens not to be the case.

106 posted on 10/24/2006 8:59:18 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Are you trying to tell me that the corporate executives are human?
107 posted on 10/24/2006 10:57:58 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: lizol

We could use all the help this 1st WORLD educational country can give us


108 posted on 10/24/2006 11:18:59 PM PDT by STD (Rough Sailing Directly Ahead)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
... Creationism currently suggests that Neanderthals were people who obeyed the order to spread out after the Flood ...

'currently suggests'? Err never mind ...

So which son of Noah sired the Neanderthal, Shem, and Ham, or Japheth?

109 posted on 10/25/2006 12:54:24 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: Centurion2000

Confucius say: not all bandwidth can be stolen easily...


110 posted on 10/25/2006 1:23:53 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (In a world where both of our cars were totally underwater...)
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To: southlake_hoosier

Track Title: The Bertha Butt Boogie - Part 1
Album Title: Have A Nice Decade: disc 5

Prime Artist: Jimmy Castor Bunch
Written by: Jimmy Castor
Written by: Johnny Pruitt
Lyrics:
The party was jumpin' when Bertha got off o' her stump,
The whistles were blowin' and everybody did the "Bump".
But all the time Bertha had been workin' on her goodie,
Now folks call it "The Bertha Butt Boogie".

When Bertha Butt did her goodie,
She started "The Bertha Butt Boogie".
No question.

When Bertha got movin' her hips were hummin' in the wind,
The ground started shakin' - no grass grew where she'd been!
The music was poppin', the crowd had formed a ring,
Her sisters yelled, "Boogie, Bertha, do your thing!".

Uh, for your information, Bertha had three sisters,
Betty Butt, Bella Butt and Bathsheba Butt.

When Bertha Butt did her goodie,
She started "The Bertha Butt Boogie".
I said no question.

Hey, Leroy, get away from that woman!
The boy'll never learn!
Uh-oh, here comes the Troglodyte!
Troglodyte: "Come here, sock it to me!"

Bertha stood back and yelled, "Betty, Bella, Bathsheba!"
And the Butt Sisters backed her up when she yelled, "I need ya!".
The Troglodyte, Leroy, Luther and the Butt Sisters all knew
That "The Bertha Butt Boogie" was now the thing to do.

When Bertha Butt did her goodie,
She started "The Bertha Butt Boogie".
No question.

Bertha: "I'll sock it ya, daddy!"
Troglodyte: "Me like, me like! Come here, woman, woman!"
Leroy: "Yo' mama, I'm calling you, man!"
Troglodyte: "Yeah - the Boogie!"

FADE OUT


111 posted on 10/25/2006 1:40:48 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (In a world where both of our cars were totally underwater...)
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To: Coyoteman
"Its from a creationist website"

Check out the article coyoteboy, I found this on a darwinist website (Science mag is darwinist big time and wouldn't dare print something critical of your mythical god), its also common sense that DNA breaks down after a limited time. btw, why does Neanderthal have a bigger brain cavity then modern humans if they were just monkeys (and monkeys have a smaller brain cavity in case you didn't know)
112 posted on 10/25/2006 4:47:51 AM PDT by razzle
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To: js1138

"We now have a significant amount of DNA from Neanderthal sources. "

in Science vol. 277 July 11, 1997, pp. 176-178. "The method used to extract the DNA (on Neanderthals) was the polymerase chain reaction, which on old and damaged DNA is highly error prone."


113 posted on 10/25/2006 4:56:40 AM PDT by razzle
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To: lizol
The entire premis is wrong.

Darwin never said man descended from apes. The ignorati who did not understand Darwin leaped to that conclusion. The illiterate ignorari who never read have made that gospel and continue the misconception.
114 posted on 10/25/2006 5:01:23 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. We will screw you inshallah)
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To: razzle

A nine year old source. Try to keep up.


115 posted on 10/25/2006 5:41:14 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: js1138

Viagra would help.


116 posted on 10/25/2006 6:21:08 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: razzle

Their cranial capacity was indeed larger, but the cerebellum took up the incremental space and not the frontal lobes. They needed the large cerebellum to coordinate the big muscles. They bwere likely great athletes, just not very smart (or at least not smart enough to avoid getting their *sses kicked by my Cro Magnon ancestors).


117 posted on 10/25/2006 6:31:47 AM PDT by Pharmboy ("I have more guns than I need, but less than I want." Sen. Phil Gramm)
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To: razzle
The method used to extract the DNA (on Neanderthals) was the polymerase chain reaction, which on old and damaged DNA is highly error prone.

This is not a quotation from the Science article, and it completely misrepresents the conclusions of the article. Moreover, more recent research completely supports the 1997 article.

118 posted on 10/25/2006 6:33:02 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: Pharmboy
"They needed the large cerebellum to coordinate the big muscles"

You darwinists are so smart. How do you know all these things with only some ancient skulls? answer - we make it up, of course, to fool the kids.
119 posted on 10/25/2006 6:48:51 AM PDT by razzle
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To: razzle
"Its from a creationist website"

Check out the article coyoteboy, I found this on a darwinist website (Science mag is darwinist big time and wouldn't dare print something critical of your mythical god),

I have read the original article. That is different than reading the two sentence treatment of the article on a creationist website. Creationist sites do not tend to tell the truth about evolution and related subjects.

its also common sense that DNA breaks down after a limited time.

Sure, DNA breaks down, but not after any particular time. The preservation rates can vary greatly. I currently have a lab working at extracting a sample from bone about 4800 years old, and they are having a hard time. But another sample several hundred years older produced results on the first try.

If you had read the original article, not just the comment that the creationist website wanted you to read ("Moreover, the damaged state of ancient DNA makes the method used to amplify it--the polymerase chain reaction (PCR)--far more error prone") you might have learned something. They sequenced the mtDNA in two different labs (Munich, Germany and Penn State) and got the exact same results. Those results were statistically outside of the modern human range.

btw, why does Neanderthal have a bigger brain cavity then modern humans if they were just monkeys (and monkeys have a smaller brain cavity in case you didn't know)

Monkeys? Neanderthal has the same relation to monkeys as we do--monkeys and apes split about 25 million years ago, and the ape line led to both humans and Neanderthals.

You really need to study up on this subject. Your comments suggest you are searching creationist websites for anything that may support the creationist case, but are really reading and understanding the materials.

120 posted on 10/25/2006 7:24:25 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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