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Philip Paulson, who filed suit to remove Mount Soledad cross, dies at 59
San Diego Union ^ | 24 OCT 2006 | Kelly Thornton

Posted on 10/25/2006 6:15:14 PM PDT by radar101

Philip Kevin Paulson, who fought a 17-year legal battle to remove the Mount Soledad cross from public property, died Wednesday of liver cancer. He was 59.

Paulson, a 6-foot-5 Vietnam veteran who lived in City Heights, became so passionate about the separation of church and state that he filed a civil lawsuit against the city of San Diego in 1989 without an attorney. He won the case, and as the appeals dragged on he became one of the county's most reviled and respected characters.

The Cross

Typical Memorial Plaque around base

During interviews with The San Diego Union-Tribune in September and October, a few months after doctors told him he did not have long to live, Paulson said he was unconcerned about death and proud of the stand that defined his life.

“The real message is equal treatment under the law, and religious neutrality. That's the purpose of why I did it,” said Paulson, who turned away from religion early in life. “It has nothing to do with me being an atheist or whether I was a Bible-thumping fundamentalist Baptist preacher.”

Paulson, the grandson of a Lutheran preacher who shunned media attention to protect the case, agreed to exclusive interviews on the condition that his comments remain confidential until his death or the end of the case.

He said he wanted people to understand why he pursued the removal of the cross, and that he was never motivated by a hatred of Christians.

“I don't harbor those kind of feelings,” Paulson said. “My mother's a Christian. I was raised a devout Christian. I'm not anti-Christian. The reason I did it is because it's not fair to the other religions. America is not just the Christian religion.”

Paulson, who grew up in Clayton, Wis., a town of 300 people, taught computer and business classes at National University.

When it became clear last summer that Paulson's condition was terminal, he and his lawyer, James McElroy, made plans to add another plaintiff to the case so that it could continue. The city has agreed to the move, although the change awaits the judge's signature. The new plaintiff, Steve Trunk, is a Vietnam war veteran, an atheist and also the product of a religious upbringing.

The city has argued that while the cross has religious significance, it also has a secular purpose – to honor war veterans. Paulson contended the memorial portion of the hilltop site was built only after he filed suit. The cross is a religious symbol that should be moved from public land, Paulson contended.

President Bush signed a bill this year that transferred ownership of the cross and war memorial site to the Department of Defense.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aclu; athiest; mountsoledadcross; mtsoledad
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To: mkjessup

I did a computer search and the word Karma is not found.


81 posted on 10/26/2006 4:11:42 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Pukin Dog

If you can't say nuthin' nice, don't say nuthin' at all.

Therefore, I have no comment.


82 posted on 10/26/2006 4:14:08 AM PDT by airborne (If Democrats win in November, America will suffer.)
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To: Locomotive Breath

I did a computer search and the word "Karma" is not found in the Bible.

(hit post before I was finished)

I did find Karma as part of Hinduism and Buddhism. Maybe we can replace the Cross with a statue of Shiva or a Buddha.

It's ironic that people who are arguing for the primacy of Christianity in the U.S. do so by making a reference to a different religion.

If you're going to take the Buddist route, the guy's probably reincarnated by now anyway.


83 posted on 10/26/2006 4:22:12 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: radar101

Gaydar alert.


84 posted on 10/26/2006 4:22:30 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: TrogdortheBurninator; HiTech RedNeck
Where else would sinners go?

It's not a question of "Where" sinners go, or even "if" they go to hell.

My point is that God has done everything to KEEP people from going to hell, only to have some of his followers jump up and down with glee everytime a sinner dies and goes there.

It's almost like some Christians are cheering at a bizarre football game, where touchdowns are scored for our team when people go to hell.

When Jesus looked out at the masses and saw all the lost people, he experienced incredible sadness. The Bible did not say 'he got a smile on his face and gleam in his eye knowing that he was about to take them out.'

85 posted on 10/26/2006 4:48:42 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

That's supposed to come LATER... if the Bible is an integrated book we have to deal with such paradoxen.


86 posted on 10/26/2006 4:52:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Locomotive Breath

if there is a karma, he was reincarnated as a cockroach.


87 posted on 10/26/2006 4:53:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: phoenix0468

Could you meet me at the bank tomorrow morning, say about 10:00? You see, MY truth is that I have one million dollars in my account -- they seem to have gotten the idea that there's only $ 62.45 in there.


88 posted on 10/26/2006 4:56:27 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Judge not lest ye be judged.


89 posted on 10/26/2006 7:11:14 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Mr. Brightside
So you can rejoice at God's love, but not His Justice? Are they not equal attributes to his Godhead?
I pity the sinner for his choice, but there is no redemption once you enter the gates of hell, so my pity is merely a human response in our vast lack of understanding God.
So instead, hope he got to Purgatory, and pray for his soul there.

Troggie
90 posted on 10/26/2006 7:14:42 AM PDT by TrogdortheBurninator (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum, Soli proscript catapultas habebunt!)
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To: TrogdortheBurninator

My Bible states that angels rejoice when one more is brought into the kingdom.

Does yours state that God the Father and God the Son rejoice when one more goes to hell? You think they give each other high fives?


91 posted on 10/26/2006 7:38:42 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Locomotive Breath
I did a computer search and the word Karma is not found

In other words, you relied upon an electronic device instead of using your own mental faculties and ability to comprehend the examples and principles which were cited to you by myself and other posters.

Dan Quayle was right.
"How terrible it is to lose your mind.
Or not to have a mind at all.
How true that is."


Indeed Mr. Vice President, Indeed.
92 posted on 10/26/2006 7:53:14 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Locomotive Breath; HiTech RedNeck
Judge not lest ye be judged.

You don't even understand the principle.
93 posted on 10/26/2006 7:54:34 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Read this and went about filing my nails.


94 posted on 10/26/2006 8:01:17 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: mkjessup

Only verifying my memory. Being human I'm imperfect.


95 posted on 10/26/2006 8:27:16 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

And if my computer is also imperfect, please cite for me chapter and verse where Karma, as the other religions understand it, is in the Bible.


96 posted on 10/26/2006 8:28:54 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: mkjessup
I understand it's not Christian to hope that someone who disagrees with you comes back as a cockroach (presumably so you can squash him). Kafka laughs. And if Buddha was right, and there is Karma and reincarnation, then someone's coming back as a cockroach but it won't be this guy.
97 posted on 10/26/2006 8:33:53 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: radar101

Justice?


98 posted on 10/26/2006 8:36:27 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mr. Brightside
Is that what I said? Again with the attributing human actions to the Godhead. No, God does not 'High five' when someone goes to hell. But i hardly believe that he is grieved. God loves us so much that He will Justly give us what we ask for. If we spend our whole life apart from Him, why would He force us to live with Him for eternity? No, instead, He loves us enough to punish us for our transgressions. It is God's Eternal Love that binds us to the Lake of Fire.
So yes, the angels rejoice when one more lost sinner is brought back to the fold, but if through obstinate, disobedient pride, the sinner refuses to be brought back, he can spend the rest of eternity with the proud, disobedient angels in Hell.

Troggie
99 posted on 10/26/2006 8:41:45 AM PDT by TrogdortheBurninator (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum, Soli proscript catapultas habebunt!)
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To: TrogdortheBurninator

These type comments remind me why I am glad HE is God, versus those "Christians" who enjoy seeing people going to hell.


100 posted on 10/26/2006 11:37:44 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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