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To: .30Carbine; Jaguarbhzrd; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Cicero; cornelis; <1/1,000,000th%; ...
I am unapologetic about "attempting to witness". When someone argues for evolution, they are "attempting to witness" for their evolutionary religion as well. Claiming that "witnessing" is off limits is demonstrating a desire for bias instead of intellectual objectively or curiousity about the subject.

That's well said.


Thank you for your kind words two-edged .30Carbine.


The religious presuppositions that evolution by chance and natural process is a 'fact', that matter came before mind, etc are false. The religious presuppositions of evolutionary scientists color what they think, do, and write. Matter before mind presuppositions result in contradictory statements and conclusions which are contradictory to the world. The materialist cannot be consistent to the logic of their presuppositions, because the materialist lives in a reality which was made by something external to matter...God. This being so, the materialist is in a place of tension. Materialists build up walls of protection to shield themselves from the point of tension. The materialist then erects barriers, even if completely irrational or improbable, or errects strange rules, to try to deal w/ the contradiction of how he observes the world.

From here:
"Interested in any of the following? 1. Witnessing 9. Promoting ID/creationism If so, don't get comfortable. You won't be staying long."

Because we care about evolutionist, the job of the missionary (borrowing Oswald Chambers vernacular) should be to lovingly and with true tears to remove the layers of protection and allow the truth of the created world will shine upon the people we care about. God's creation, the world which we live in, is a reflection of His glory and divine nature. It speaks brightly for itself.
282 posted on 11/03/2006 5:14:42 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
And just in case anybody should have questions about this debate and Marxism.

This is precisely how natural science regards it. It explains the sensations of various colours by the various lengths of light-waves existing outside the human retina, outside man and independently of him. This is materialism: matter acting upon our sense-organs produces sensation. Sensation depends on the brain, nerves, retina, etc., i.e., on matter organised in a definite way. The existence of matter does not depend on sensation. Matter is primary. Sensation, thought, consciousness are the supreme product of matter organised in a particular way. Such are the views of materialism in general, and of Marx and Engels in particular.

283 posted on 11/03/2006 6:56:28 AM PST by Tribune7 (Go Swann Go Santorum)
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To: FreedomProtector
When someone argues for evolution, they are "attempting to witness" for their evolutionary religion as well.

As long as we remember that evolution as religion belongs to the atheists. For Christians, or members of other faiths, who work in biology, evolutionary biology is a collection of facts and ideas that are used to guide and track research.

284 posted on 11/03/2006 7:26:29 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: FreedomProtector
You can go ahead & take me off your pinglist since I'm no longer a freeper. You can find me here instead.
289 posted on 11/03/2006 2:25:21 PM PST by jennyp (The ennui of the short-timer)
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To: FreedomProtector
God's creation, the world which we live in, is a reflection of His glory and divine nature: It speaks.

Amen.

292 posted on 11/04/2006 3:35:07 AM PST by .30Carbine (We have the Mind of Christ.)
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