The Revenge of the ‘Buchanan’ Democrats

Poll data from Majoritywatch.com ^ | 30 Oct 2006 | 11th_va (who else)

[11th_VA]

In looking at potential pick-ups for the Democrats this year in Red-districts, I have detected a noticeable issue that is being used against Republican incumbents - anger over immigration/trade/labor issues. This is an area of concern ‘Country Club’ republicans have ignored for years, and may, be coming back to haunt them.

One could probably argue the whole issue over Immigration, NAFTA/CAFTA, and loss of factory jobs are all tied together and certainly important to a large number of ‘conservative’ voters in Red Districts – Districts to a large extent that have not benefited economically from our move to a more global economy.

Let’s look a few districts and where these candidates stand:

Kentucky District 3: Anne Northup (R) vs John Yarmuth (D). Latest Poll Oct 24-26 has Yarmuth leading 52 – 46%. Anne Northup vote YES on CAFTA. The Democrat Yarmuth has this to say illegal immigration on his web site: “We must strictly enforce laws against the employment of illegal immigrants by prosecuting companies that knowingly hire non-citizens without work visas.”

Kentucky District 4: Geoff Davis (R) vs John Lucas (D). Latest Poll Oct 24-26 has Lucas leading 50 – 46%. Geoff Davis voted YES on CAFTA – He’s also in trouble for supporting companies that sponsor ‘Pay-day’ loans. Seems he’s flip-flopped on the issue a bit. Ken Lucas is a former member of congress and as his website notes, “a proud member of the Pro-Life Caucus and received the endorsement of such groups as the National Rifle Association and the recommendation of the National Right to Life Committee”. Lucas says, he would have voted against the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) to hold out for more stringent work standards.

Indiana District 2: Chris Chocola (R) vs Joe Donnelly (D). Latest Poll Oct 24-26 has the Democrat Joe Donnelly leading 48% - 43%. Chocola support CAFTA. Donnelly is a staunch Pro-lifer and appears to support strict enforcement of immigration laws.

Indiana District 8: John Hostetller (R) vs Brad Ellsworth (D). Latest Poll Oct 24-26 has the Democrat Ellsworth leading 53 – 43%. Let’s cut to the chase on this one. From Ellsworth own website: “We face a national crisis when it comes to illegal immigration When we capture illegals here in Vanderburgh County, my deputies call INS and INS tells them there’s no place to put them. That’s not right. It’s also not right when an Indiana employer passes over an American for a job only because an illegal worker is cheaper. We need to tighten our borders, enforce the laws we have, and punish employers who break them. This is about economic security as much as it is national security.”

Indiana District 9: Mike Sodrel (R) vs Baron Hill (D). Sodel won by less than 2000 votes in 2004. Latest Poll Oct 24-25 has the Hill leading 51 – 43%. Mike Sodrel (IN-9) was a co-sponsor of the CAFTA bill HR 3283, after he campaigned against Baron Hill for supporting trade bills unfavorable to American workers. Hill is campaigning for an energy independent America

North Carolina District 11: Charles Taylor (R) vs Heath Schuler (D). Latest Poll Oct 24-26 has Schuler leading 53 – 44%. Only two members of the House didn't register a vote on the CAFTA – Charles Taylor was one of them. Heath Schuler is an outspoken Evangelical Christian and has criticized Taylor for not voting against CAFTA.

North Carolina District 8: Robin Hayes (R) vs Larry Kissell (D). Latest Poll Oct 24-26 has Kissel Leading 48 – 44%. Around midnight on July 27, 2005, Hayes changed his CAFTA vote from "no" to a crucial, last-minute "yes" after House Speaker Dennis Hastert lobbied him in the House Cloak Room. Now he’s propobly going to pay for it in this election. Kissel is a former textile worker that lost his job to free trade agreements. He’s also probably the least ‘family friendly’ candidate when it comes to social values, but he is definitely anti NAFTA/CAFTA.

More candidate research as I find the time.

Note: All polling data from http://www.majoritywatch.com/

[MNJohnnie]

Let me see if I understand this. The "angry about Immigration" crowd is going to fire the ONLY people in DC serious about Border Security, the US House Republicans, in order to turn the Govt over to the people who want to do what they claim to oppose 100%.

That is, simply put, insane.

[11th_VA]

Hey, all politics is local. It might be too little to late for the GOP. I hope they hold the house, but there's ALOT of 'Conservatives' in that list I'd support.

[Ben Ficklin]

I understand what you're saying.

All those with a case of "buchanitis" or "tancreitus" should join the the democratic party?

[Asclepius]

If you don't believe in free trade then you should vote Democrat.

Republicans want you to be able to buy and sell freely and to allow the market to determine price, value etc.

[11th_VA]

All those with a case of "buchanitis" or "tancreitus" should join the the democratic party?

As a conservative, I typically vote for the candidate that will do the least harm. Usually it's a Republican, but sometimes ...

[Mr. Brightside]

The "angry about Immigration" crowd is going to fire the ONLY people in DC serious about Border Security, the US House Republicans, in order to turn the Govt over to the people who want to do what they claim to oppose 100%. That is, simply put, insane.

Your post sums up Pat Buchanan's whole political career... INSANE.

[samadams2000]

Oh please raise my taxes Mr. Democrat!!!!

[MSF BU]

They need to post Kissel's name next to as many rainbow flags with the phrase "Support Gay Marriage"....

[The Old Hoosier]

When was this written?

These aren't the most recent polls. They've got KY-3 and KY-4 wrong, and IN-9 as well.

[11th_VA]

They need to post Kissel's name next to as many rainbow flags with the phrase "Support Gay Marriage"....

Yeah, he seems very guarded about his positions on Family Values - I couldn't vote for him ...

[John Lenin]

This clown had half the votes as Ralph Nader in 2000. I'm really skeered ...

[11th_VA]

When was this written?

Those are the most rescent on the Majoritywatch web site. Post the latest if you have 'em ...

[MSF BU]

See how gays in the military plays at Fort Bragg...

[Ben Ficklin]

Do you understand that the dems are not against free trade/NAFTA/CAFTA?

They just want to structure it so that it benefits the union, the environmentalists, and the social justice crowd, while the GOP wants to benefit the investors.

And to be be more accurate, moderate dems also want to benefit the investors.

Do you remember Pat B. marching thru the streets of Seattle, after the riots, holding hands with the Marxists?

Pat is going to unite the left and the right against the center. Get on board, brother.

[John Lenin]

Final certified vote for the state of Florida (25 electoral votes)

Presidential Candidate	Vote Total	Pct	Party
George W. Bush (W)	2,912,790	48.850	Republican
Al Gore	2,912,253	48.841	Democratic
Ralph Nader	97,421	1.633	Green
Patrick J. Buchanan	17,412	0.292	Reform
Harry Browne	16,102	0.270	Libertarian
John Hagelin	2,274	0.038	Natural Law/Reform
Howard Phillips	1,378	0.023	Constitution
Other	3,027	0.051	—
Total	5,962,657	100.00
Source: CBS News State Results for Election 2000

[bert]

....That is, simply put, insane.....

He said they were Pat's troops. It is to be expected.

[RegulatorCountry]

Anybody familiar with NC politics could have told you that Robin Hayes was going down the minute he succumbed to the arm-twisting and went turncoat. His district was and is thoroughly opposed to CAFTA due to the tremendous loss of jobs that they had experienced, and continue to experience. Hayes is heir to a textile fortune himself. He's going to lose to a neophyte ... a school teacher and former textile worker. Payback's a bitch, and that's exactly what this is. Hayes knew it was coming. The party knew it was coming. So mock all you want, but it's a big, fat told-you-so situation down there. That seat was given away for a treaty. I hope it was worth it.

[John Lenin]

Presidential Candidate	Party	Home State	Popular Vote		Electoral Vote	Running Mate	Running Mate's Home State	Running Mate's Electoral Vote
			Count	Percentage
George W. Bush	Republican	Texas	50,460,110	47.9%	271	Dick Cheney	Wyoming	271
Al Gore	Democratic	Tennessee	51,003,926	48.4%	266	Joe Lieberman	Connecticut	266
(abstention) (a)	(n/a)	(n/a)	(n/a)	(n/a)	1	(abstention) (a)	(n/a)	1
Ralph Nader	Green	Connecticut	2,883,105	2.7%	0	Winona LaDuke	Minnesota	0
Pat Buchanan	Reform	Virginia	449,225	0.4%	0	Ezola B. Foster	California	0
Harry Browne	Libertarian	Tennessee	384,516	0.4%	0	Art Olivier	California	0
Howard Phillips	Constitution	Virginia	98,022	0.1%	0	Curtis Frazier	Missouri	0
John Hagelin	Natural Law/Reform	Iowa	83,702	0.1%	0	Nat Goldhaber	California	0
Other(b)			54,652	0.1%	0	Other(b)		0
Total			105,417,258	100.0%	538	Total		538
Needed to win					270	Needed to win		270

[Dane]

The buchanan democrats aren't that smart, after all what is this now, the fifth time they have cut off their noses to spite their faces.

Human noses don't grow back, and the oxygen supply to the buchanan democrats is getting more than miniscule.