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Can't Muslim men control their urges?
The Times ^ | November 2, 2006 | Mary Ann Sieghart

Posted on 11/01/2006 3:50:00 PM PST by MadIvan

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To: mamelukesabre
If it seems to you that I am coming across a little strong, its because I am. I tend to do so when I know I'm right.

Good....then I shall enjoy debating you.

61 posted on 11/01/2006 9:00:26 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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To: mamelukesabre

....although I think we may be surprised about some of the conclusions we arrive at; I'm guessing that they will be quite similar.


62 posted on 11/01/2006 9:01:59 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (I)
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To: MadIvan

This article made me wonder what the rates of rape are in Paris. We hear about the car burning and the attacks on the police and other public service officers, but nothing about attacks on women.


63 posted on 11/01/2006 9:04:51 PM PST by Eva
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To: He Rides A White Horse
I'm sorry, this last post of yours is quite ambiguously worded.

You are telling me that feminists (plural not possessive) claim that the religion we know as christianity is the result of a single woman's efforts to subjugate what came before it? (ie judaism)

I've got to be misreading your post somehow.
64 posted on 11/01/2006 9:11:44 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: MadIvan
“Responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement.”

Time for a new weapon... The names Colt or Winchester comes to mind...

65 posted on 11/01/2006 9:11:53 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: MadIvan
“Responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement.”

Time for a new weapon... The names Colt or Winchester comes to mind...

66 posted on 11/01/2006 9:12:08 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: mamelukesabre
Knock it off, all of you. You aren't acting very Christ-like.

I don't have to act "Christ-like" because I'm not Christian. I'm more of a non-religious, agnostic-scientific-animist-polytheist, thus freeing me from the whole "turn the other cheek" thing.

I believe in beating the enemy into absolute submission, dictating terms of surrender, and then, and only then I can befriend the defeated foe.

Nice try on the guilt trip, though.

67 posted on 11/01/2006 9:31:05 PM PST by FierceDraka (When every special interest gets their way, there will be no more Liberty.)
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To: FierceDraka

Shame on you. You heathen.

How bout this then:

Knock it off all of you. You aren't acting very Boyscout-like.


68 posted on 11/01/2006 9:36:34 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Eva

Here are a few related articles:

Sexual assault is rampant in France's crumbling housing projects. Now a gang-rape victim has broken the silence. Will society confront the crisis?

Since 1999, rapes within the banlieue have increased by 15% to 20% every year.

http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2002/1202/crime/bellil.htm

The 18 male accused are said to have shared the girl around for a series of forced sex acts carried out in public toilets or the basements of blocks of flats.

Sociologists say such gang rapes are relatively common among gangs of immigrant teenagers from rundown suburbs around Paris.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200209/s677752.htm

France in shock over gang rape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/europe/1456204.stm

In November we reported how Fadel Amara's charity organised a march for a young Muslim woman, 19-year old Chahrazad Belayni, who was deliberately set on fire by a Muslim male whose sexual advances she had rejected, on November 13. The Moroccan girl was set on fire in the street, received burns over 60% of her body, and, according to the Times today, she still remains in a coma.

The Times also reported that on Friday (31 March), a trial detailed another similar attack from a Parisian suburb. Jamal Derrar is accused of burning to death a 17 year old girl, Sohane Benziane in 2002, in Vitry-Sur-Seine. She broke his order to stay away from "his territory", and the trial heard that he poured petrol over the girl's head, before he pulled out a cigarette lighter. He flicked it alight and extinguished it several times to reduce her to tears before he immolated her.

http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/001868.html


69 posted on 11/01/2006 9:46:26 PM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: san juan; MadIvan; All

Rack all knowning Freeper

HEY IVAN I think what Islam is I hear this on Law and order bunch of men who are scare of women


70 posted on 11/01/2006 10:01:21 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: SkyPilot

Its a sin to fail to pick food debris from their teeth after they eat, but it OK to rape.


71 posted on 11/01/2006 10:38:51 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: Eva
This article made me wonder what the rates of rape are in Paris. We hear about the car burning and the attacks on the police and other public service officers, but nothing about attacks on women.

As soon as I find anything about that, I'll post it.

Regards, Ivan

72 posted on 11/01/2006 11:11:25 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: mamelukesabre
Not muslim women who choose modesty.

The thing is, they do not choose modesty.

In many cases if they do not dress in this way at the very least they will draw the condemnation of their families and their neighbours.

They are forced to dress this way in order to escape such problems.

73 posted on 11/02/2006 12:32:56 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: truth_seeker
On one hand, sex is to be AVOIDED.

Hold me back!! ;^)

74 posted on 11/02/2006 3:44:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: FierceDraka; Tax-chick
These creeps are encouraged by their culture to rape women. They should be shot napalmed. shortened.

(Fixed it for both of ya! ;^)

75 posted on 11/02/2006 3:50:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: He Rides A White Horse; mamelukesabre
...many women in the Bible are strong personalities...

Like this one?


NIV Judges 4:14-21
 14.  Then Deborah said to Barak, "Go! This is the day the LORD has given Sisera into your hands. Has not the LORD gone ahead of you?" So Barak went down Mount Tabor, followed by ten thousand men.
 15.  At Barak's advance, the LORD routed Sisera and all his chariots and army by the sword, and Sisera abandoned his chariot and fled on foot.
 16.  But Barak pursued the chariots and army as far as Harosheth Haggoyim. All the troops of Sisera fell by the sword; not a man was left.
 17.  Sisera, however, fled on foot to the tent of Jael, the wife of Heber the Kenite, because there were friendly relations between Jabin king of Hazor and the clan of Heber the Kenite.
 18.  Jael went out to meet Sisera and said to him, "Come, my lord, come right in. Don't be afraid." So he entered her tent, and she put a covering over him.
 19.  "I'm thirsty," he said. "Please give me some water." She opened a skin of milk, gave him a drink, and covered him up. 
 20.  "Stand in the doorway of the tent," he told her. "If someone comes by and asks you, `Is anyone here?' say `No.'"
 21.  But Jael, Heber's wife, picked up a tent peg and a hammer and went quietly to him while he lay fast asleep, exhausted.
She drove the peg through his temple into the ground, and he died.

76 posted on 11/02/2006 3:59:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

LOL!


77 posted on 11/02/2006 4:12:41 AM PST by Tax-chick ("If we have no fear, Pentecost comes again." ~ Bishop William Curlin)
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To: Elsie; truth_seeker
"On one hand, sex is to be AVOIDED." -- Hold me back!!

I've always found one-handed sex to be less than completely satisfying.

78 posted on 11/02/2006 6:49:37 AM PST by NicknamedBob (I dream the way some people get drunk. I have fun, but I can't remember anything.)
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To: oyez
If that were true Western men would constantly be chewed up with lust. No telling what they would be committing.

And rape is not about sex anyway, it's about violence and power. these men are taught that they are made to have power--vast, unchecked power--over women, and that the power becomes absolute if she is "immodest" in any way.

Every woman in the West should be able to get concealed carry. Y'all are going to need it if things keep going the way they are.

79 posted on 11/02/2006 8:21:06 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do haven't seen "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: fanfan
I suspect they don't think they need to pursue goodness to be one with the heaven of the Koran, or their virgins.

In Islam, everyone except martyrs does time in Hell before reaching paradise, and getting into paradise eventually depends solely on belief in the Pillars. So, you get cooked no matter how good you are, you get into paradise no matter how bad you are, and you only get to skip the big burn if you die battling infidels. Not much of an incentive to be good...

80 posted on 11/02/2006 8:25:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do haven't seen "Dirty Jobs.")
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