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OHIO: Nearly 13,000 Dead Voters Still On Registry: Prosecutor ready to prosecute
News 5 Ohio ^ | Nov 3, 2006 | Duane Pohlman

Posted on 11/05/2006 2:13:48 PM PST by rface

CLEVELAND -- After watching the 5 On Your Side investigation on dead voters, Cuyahoga County prosecutor Bill Mason said he will prosecute anyone who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person.

In his report, NewsChannel5 chief investigator Duane Pohlman uncovered dozens of votes being cast from the grave, and Mason said the trouble is just beginning for whomever is responsible for casting votes in the name of the dead.

"This really is an attack on the entire system, and it's of paramount importance that we find out how this is happening and we stop it so it can't happen again, one, and, two, find out who's doing it, so we can prosecute them if possible," said Mason.

So-called "ghost voting" is a felony, and Cuyahoga County Board of Elections Director Michael Vu has already launched an investigation into the problem.

"We will investigate that, send it to the county prosecutor's office and determine what had occurred," Vu said.

Mason said prosecution is possible only if the investigation can prove intent.

NewsChannel5 compared the county's voter registration rolls with death records from the Social Security Administration, finding 12,688 people who have died but are still registered to vote.

Many of the dead voters passed away years ago, and a good number of them more than a decade ago.

Vu said slow reporting combined with federal rules require him to keep dead people in the registry.

"It's something that needs to be corrected," he said.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich, stunned by what was uncovered, said he will help do the correcting.

Kucinich said the investigation has convinced him to introduce a bill to clean up all voter registration rolls and close the gap on corruption.

"One thing is for sure: There is an opening here for the commission of fraud that needs to be close," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: repository; votefraud; voterfraud; votingfraud
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To: Cicero

Better late than never?


Yeah, they've had 2 years (at least) to fix this problem.

Whay have they not done so?


41 posted on 11/05/2006 2:48:04 PM PST by WhiteGuy (DeWine ranked as one of the ten worst border security politicians - Human Events)
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To: RetiredArmy

I also would like to know how many elections they voted in after their passing, especially for the individuals who passed more than a decade ago.


42 posted on 11/05/2006 2:48:06 PM PST by YoungSoutherner (It's a great time to be a southerner)
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To: rface

Let me guess. All the "dead" voters caught have cast their votes for Dems?


43 posted on 11/05/2006 2:50:12 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: rface

Don't trust Bill Mason - I have a little story I could tell about Bill Mason, the City of Parma, a federal discrimination suit, and a promotion to Cuyahoga County's prosecutor's office. Suffice to say that Mason moved up while Parma's taxpayers got the short end of the stick.


44 posted on 11/05/2006 2:52:59 PM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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To: meyer

Oh, and BTW, Mason is a dem as are most of the officials in Cuyahoga county. If not for Channel 5's investigation, it would be business (voter fraud) as usual in that county.


45 posted on 11/05/2006 2:58:38 PM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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To: rface
DEMOC  S

46 posted on 11/05/2006 2:59:25 PM PST by seasoned traditionalist ("INFIDEL AND PROUD OF IT.")
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To: meyer

So Kucinich wants to purge the voter rolls but he doesn't want voters to have ID.

Yeah, ok.


47 posted on 11/05/2006 3:01:05 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Obama in 08)
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To: rface

Have they checked the absentee ballots? That's the preferred method of voting by the dead, and you have to admit, they are very absent.


48 posted on 11/05/2006 3:02:08 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: rface

Democrats get 98% of the Zombie vote.
49 posted on 11/05/2006 3:02:13 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: rface
If Cuyahoga County Board of Elections Director Michael Vu is really serious about correcting the problem of dead voters, he should hire Paul Bettencourt as a consultant.

Bettencourt is the Harris County, Texas Tax-Assessor Collector (Houston area). He has done everything he could to scrub our voter rolls clean and he's very good at his job. The Republican voters of Harris County, TX owe him a great debt of gratitude.

50 posted on 11/05/2006 3:09:36 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: rface
Think about what has to happen to actually prosecute one of those mutts. First, unless you catch one in the act, how will you know who to arrest? After all, they don't need a picture ID and all you know is that the dead person showed up at the polls. And really, what's the second if that was the first? Then what's that nonsense about "only if the investigation can prove intent?" It would be interesting to see the tortured logic to explain it away as an honest mistake (or a botched joke). It's just tough talk with little likelihood of results, I'm afraid.
51 posted on 11/05/2006 3:10:40 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: Cicero

yes.


52 posted on 11/05/2006 3:10:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: rface
Rep. Dennis Kucinich, stunned by what was uncovered, said he will help do the correcting.

There is not a doubt in my mind that, like all Democrats, this scumbag Kucinich unfailingly votes against programs which would regularly purge voter rolls, require ID and proof of citizenship, and every other initiative designed to reform the election process.

53 posted on 11/05/2006 3:14:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: meyer

I use to live in the Cleveland area so I know all about the corruption there too. This will go federal though, so Mason won't matter.


54 posted on 11/05/2006 3:16:25 PM PST by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: rface
CLEVELAND -- After watching the 5 On Your Side investigation on dead voters, Cuyahoga County prosecutor Bill Mason said he will prosecute anyone who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person.

Like it could be done unknowingly?!

55 posted on 11/05/2006 3:17:09 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: rface
After watching the 5 On Your Side investigation on dead voters, Cuyahoga County prosecutor Bill Mason said he will prosecute anyone who knowingly cast a vote in the place of a dead person.

How would one unknowingly cast a vote for a dead person ?
56 posted on 11/05/2006 3:27:02 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: rface

In a nation that takes itself seriously (if there is such thing) vote fraud would bring *HARD* prison time.


57 posted on 11/05/2006 3:29:03 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: rface

Flag the dead registrations and when the ghost appears to cast his vote, arrest him.


58 posted on 11/05/2006 3:31:37 PM PST by Eva
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To: rface

"Need to be corrected" -- from the people that refuse to allow Voter ID's for voting becuase its 'racist'.

Yeah... I'm buying that...



60 posted on 11/05/2006 3:59:03 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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