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Milwaukee election outrage
Newsradio 620 WTMJ ^ | TUESDAY, Nov. 7, 2006, 12:27 p.m. | Jessica McBride

Posted on 11/07/2006 11:38:12 AM PST by Jean S

Edited on 11/07/2006 2:08:59 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Could the state Elections Board squander any more credibility? Oh, that's right. It doesn't have any left.

Now comes the word that the state Elections Board has ordered the City of Milwaukee Election Commission to remove signs from the polls that warn felons on parole not to vote or they will be prosecuted.

What the Elections Board's action today will do is make cases of felons voting illegally tougher to prosecute because prosecutors need to demonstrate the felon knew it was illegal to vote. The signs were designed to help address this problem (along with other fixes), which has hindered prosecutions in the past. In fact, the state Elections Board is thumbing its nose at the specific request of prosecutors.

Journal Sentinel reports:

"They are factually accurate," (state Elections Board Executive Director Kevin) Kennedy said. "But our staff thinks that they will intimidate voters."

Kennedy said he has had conversations throughout the morning with the Sue Edman, executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commission, and has told her to take the signs down.

Both the Milwaukee County district attorney's office and the Milwaukee city attorney's office say they want the signs up, Kennedy says.

But screw them, I guess. What the Elections Board wants, the Elections Board gets.

Can Gov. Doyle overrule them? What's his comment about this? Mayor Barrett?

The only voters such signs would intimidate are.... felons on parole. Who. Aren't. Supposed. To. Legally. Vote. In fact, this has been a demonstrable problem for years. Back in 2000, along with reporter Dave Umhoefer, I reported:

A Journal Sentinel investigation found 361 illegal felon voters. As part of its review, the newspaper analyzed 203,000 records from 14 of the city's 17 aldermanic districts, using computers to compare the city voting database with records from the state Department of Corrections and criminal courts.

The state then refused to give voters' dates of birth to reporters, making any future studies incomplete. Still, Greg Borowski, of the Journal Sentinel, reported that felons were still voting illegally in 2004.

Investigators said Tuesday they found clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee, including more than 200 cases of felons voting illegally and more than 100 people who voted twice, used fake names or false addresses or voted in the name of a dead person.

At the time I wrote the original story, in 2000, the common liberal response was to argue that the poor felons just didn't know it was illegal for them to vote while they were still on supervision.

I received an email from a listener this morning around the same time the JS story went up. It says:

I was voting this morning in the city of Milwaukee (I believe district 4, ward 61....the school at 12th and Highland) around 11am and as I walked in, an election official was making a change.

Inside, there is a bulletin board with general election info, regulations and such. On this board was a rather large and significant sign stating how felons can not vote and the details concerning that. The election official was removing the sign. I asked him why he was doing this and he said he was ordered to by the election commission and that he was taking them down at several other polling places. I asked who specifically told him to do this and he claimed the assistant to the head of the commission was who he talked to.

As for Kennedy, he sounds like a mouthpiece for a certain political party:

Kennedy said he had more pressing matters to consider.

"We're not going to spend all day on this," he said. "We have more pressing matters, like whether people are being denied a right to vote."

No mention about the pressing matter of people who might be voting illegally. We wouldn't want to intimidate them, I guess.

Outrageous.

Update from Journal Sentinel: Don't buy Kennedy's claims on the radio that the second sign wasn't needed. City Election Commission executive director Sue Edman thinks otherwise.

Edman said the city designed the sign to spotlight the law. A separate state Elections Board sign also includes that information, but it is "buried," Edman said.

"It really doesn't catch your eye," Edman said. "We didn't want to be criticized that we weren't doing anything about ineligible voters, so we thought it would be a good idea to have a clear sign."

Related thread: (Gov(D)(WI)Doyle's Elections Board)"City (Milwaukee) told to pull(No Voting)warning to felons"


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1 posted on 11/07/2006 11:38:12 AM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS

~sigh!~ Can it bet that we have a problem in the way we sign people up for things? Like illegals getting drivers' licenses?


2 posted on 11/07/2006 11:40:21 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: JeanS
the state Elections Board has ordered the City of Milwaukee Election Commission to remove signs from the polls that warn felons on parole not to vote or they will be prosecuted.

Well, it's all about the little darlings self esteem.

3 posted on 11/07/2006 11:41:46 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: JeanS; Diana in Wisconsin

Surprise, surprise, surprise.


4 posted on 11/07/2006 11:42:40 AM PST by steveegg (Let's make the deeply-saddened Head KOmmie deeply soddened in Nov.-deny the 'RATs the election-VOTE!)
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To: JeanS

Jean... Did Charlie Sykes mention this today on his show?


5 posted on 11/07/2006 11:44:47 AM PST by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Northern Yankee

I don't think so but Jeff Wagner was just talking about it.


6 posted on 11/07/2006 11:46:11 AM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS
"But our staff thinks that they will intimidate voters."

Only those to which it applies. And isn't that the point?

7 posted on 11/07/2006 11:46:13 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Puppage
the state Elections Board has ordered the City of Milwaukee Election Commission to remove signs from the polls that warn felons on parole not to vote or they will be prosecuted.

I'm offended by speed limit signs and signs that say "No Parking, Violators Will Be Towed at Owner's Expense". They keep me from the polls.
8 posted on 11/07/2006 11:46:53 AM PST by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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To: Froufrou

This country is going to hell and a hand basket. We've got so much trash in this country. This is a true story from today. I took my parents to vote. A woman with hair that would make Cynthia McKinney's look tame walked up--very disheveled with her clothes. Looked like she had just got out of bed. She was with an older man. They started talking with another woman in line. The woman with the crazy do said out loud something about Republicans not believing in God then went on to say that they better let her vote. They let illegals vote so they better let her vote and if they didn't she would burn the place down because she's from the hood. Of course she didn't have the card she was supposed to have so they let her fill out a provisional ballot. Hopefully her "informed" opinion won't count. This is what votes for Democrats. This is the face and mind of the Democrat party and it wasn't pretty inside or out.


9 posted on 11/07/2006 11:50:30 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Sorry, but this is Wisconsin, where the entire election board belongs to that sleezy POS "Craps" Doyle.


10 posted on 11/07/2006 11:54:22 AM PST by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: beaversmom

I'm sorry you had to see that. It's one of the best reasons why I always try to vote early. It's nice that you took your parents, too.

I wonder how much she was 'paid' for exercising her 'free speech?'


11 posted on 11/07/2006 11:59:57 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

From the looks of her I imagine she was paid with something she could snort, smoke, or inject.


12 posted on 11/07/2006 12:01:32 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Northern Yankee

The news broke after Charlie left the air. Jeff led off his show with it though.


13 posted on 11/07/2006 12:02:16 PM PST by steveegg (Let's make the deeply-saddened Head KOmmie deeply soddened in Nov.-deny the 'RATs the election-VOTE!)
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To: newcthem

You can't possibly be talking about Jim Doyle the reformer and people's candidate?
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB116287026089615243-lMyQjAxMDE2NjAyNzgwNzcwWj.html


On a side note, I arrived at the polls this morning in Bay View (south of downtown Milwaukee) and was told that I had already voted. A bit of a suprise for sure. I asked if anyone remembered seeing me as only 76 people had been through at that point and they laughed saying that mistakes happen. Turns out that one of the recorders marked my wife down on my spot on the book. The second book revealed that she was marked and I wasn't.

Still, the experience leaves a lot of questions.


14 posted on 11/07/2006 12:06:38 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: JeanS

Here are the only conditions I could see where this decision makes any sense:

(1) If the signs do NOT specify felons ON PAROLE, but simply say "felons".

(2) If it is legal for felons who have served their time (and are off parole) to vote.

Unless both of these conditions are met, then the elections board has just countenanced voter fraud, and should all be prosecuted for inciting illegal activity.

JMHO.


15 posted on 11/07/2006 12:07:52 PM PST by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: MortMan

It's illegal for all felons to vote in Wisconsin, not just those on parole.


16 posted on 11/07/2006 12:13:45 PM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS

Then the two conditions are not met - and the election commissars should be prosecuted.


17 posted on 11/07/2006 12:16:36 PM PST by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: JeanS

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General Staff

Kevin J. Kennedy, Executive Director, 608-266-8005

kevin.kennedy@seb.state.wi.us


18 posted on 11/07/2006 12:18:39 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: JeanS
[ Now comes the word that the state Elections Board has ordered the City of Milwaukee Election Commission to remove signs from the polls that warn felons on parole not to vote or they will be prosecuted. ]

Clue; felons already know its illegal but don't care.. signs are meaningless..

Should be signs IN SPANISH warning all legal and illegal aliens that VOTEing for them is ILLEGAL.. but then since they will VOTE anyway, they don't care..

So signs here are meaningless too..

Republican leadership don't even care that the dead vote.. the felons and aliens voting mildly amuses them.. Even though all three groups WILL VOTE for democrats..

19 posted on 11/07/2006 12:19:06 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: JeanS

(Leftist tizzy)Vote supression!(/Leftist tizzy)


20 posted on 11/07/2006 12:40:47 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: hosepipe

The GOP HoR candidate in a part of Orange County Cali was pushed out of the race because one of his staffers sent a letter like that. The Left got him by claiming a somewhat ambigous Spanish word meant "immigrant" when in fact it means "one who has migrated from their homeland" and is not as specific as "immigrant." The intent of the letter was to say only Citizens can vote, but whoever wrote the Spanish was not direct about it the way I would have been (I would have said "Solamente ciudadenos estarian permitido a votar. Todos otros, si votarian, harian comitido un acto criminal tan serio" or something like that).


21 posted on 11/07/2006 12:49:26 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Watery Tart; KRAUTMAN; reformedliberal; Mygirlsmom; codercpc; s2baccha; ozaukeemom; PjhCPA; ...

"Vote Early, Vote Often" Ping!


22 posted on 11/07/2006 1:30:48 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: GOP_1900AD
The Left got him by claiming a somewhat ambigous Spanish word meant "immigrant" when in fact it means "one who has migrated from their homeland" and is not as specific as "immigrant."

"Immigrant" is kind of loose, even in English. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an immigrant. He is a naturalized citizen of the United States, but he is also an immigrant.

That letter should have specified no un ciudadano de los Estados Unidos de América.

23 posted on 11/07/2006 1:37:18 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm voting right after work :)


24 posted on 11/07/2006 1:37:35 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: JeanS

Bump for later.


25 posted on 11/07/2006 1:38:20 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: steveegg; JeanS; Diana in Wisconsin
Investigators said Tuesday they found clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee, including more than 200 cases of felons voting illegally and more than 100 people who voted twice, used fake names or false addresses or voted in the name of a dead person.

Big shocker!

Is Belling talking this at all?

26 posted on 11/07/2006 1:41:13 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: JeanS
"They are factually accurate," (state Elections Board Executive Director Kevin) Kennedy said. "But our staff thinks that they will intimidate voters."

More proof that liberals have a disdain for facts. And as far as the signs in question "intimidating voters" is concerned, they'd only intimidate felons (most of them Democrats, obviously).

the state Elections Board has ordered the City of Milwaukee Election Commission to remove signs from the polls that warn felons on parole not to vote or they will be prosecuted.

Prosecuted? What's the charge?

Without the help of felons, dead people, pets, and illegal aliens the Democrat party would be virtually nonexistent.

27 posted on 11/07/2006 1:46:59 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Already did. Hugh line when I went at 8:30 this morning...


28 posted on 11/07/2006 1:47:52 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

That's even more specific. Exactly!


29 posted on 11/07/2006 1:56:40 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: JeanS
Thanks!

I like Jeff, but don't get much of a chance to hear him or Charlie as of late.

I just slays me to see how McCann, Barrett, and Doyle just seemed to turn a blind eye to such shenanigans.

30 posted on 11/07/2006 2:05:22 PM PST by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: steveegg

Thanks!


31 posted on 11/07/2006 2:06:05 PM PST by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

LOL...


32 posted on 11/07/2006 2:08:35 PM PST by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Northern Yankee

Belling was on this last hour.


33 posted on 11/07/2006 2:28:35 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Thanks again!


34 posted on 11/07/2006 2:45:06 PM PST by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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