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Cairo street crowds target women
BBC ^ | Wednesday, 1 November 2006, 14:36 GMT | By Magdi Abdelhadi

Posted on 11/07/2006 1:40:34 PM PST by Eurotwit

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1 posted on 11/07/2006 1:40:35 PM PST by Eurotwit
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Egyptian views on street assaults
Three young women in Cairo give their reactions to news that women were assaulted by crowds of young men in the city during Eid celebrations.

HANIN HANAFY, DEVELOPMENT WORKER, CAIRO, 28

I think chaos is spreading in Egypt.

There are the social and economic problems which mean that there's no work and people are too poor to get married.

Cairo Eid crowds: Bloggers say the picture shows a shop owner giving shelter to a woman who was assaulted
Blogs broke the story that has scandalised Egyptians (Picture: misrdigital.com)

There are problems with a lack of democracy. And also a lack of basic services such as decent education and transport.

You can't even walk safely along the street, there are so many road accidents.

It all points to one thing: a state which does not protect its people or provide them with the basics.

The targets for all these problems become the women - or Christians - who are the most vulnerable.

I can believe the police did nothing to help, because it has happened before.

In May last year women taking part in a political demonstration were sexually harassed in front of police.

Some incidents were encouraged by the officers, to frighten women away from demonstrations. This is the way police often handle security in public places.

But at the end of the day the police are not the problem; the issue is one of a state and society in collapse.

DINA ORIBY, INTERNATIONAL MUSLIM WOMEN'S NGO, CAIRO, 27

This is quite shocking. This incident was an attack on all our values. It went beyond everything we condemn.

In Egypt we don't approve of having intimate relationships in the street; of people kissing or holding hands.

So how come we have reached such an extreme of touching and bothering people?

I do think it reflects the state of corruption we live in.

I'm talking about a lack of good education and upbringing. I think the role of parenthood and Islamic preaching is missing.

We're concerned with how to pray and fast, but not with how to bring up good citizens.

Parents need to know how to punish and how to reward.

The state schools are deteriorating more and more. There are some good schools, but they only take the children of the wealthy.

I don't blame the police for not doing more. They are not paid enough and not appreciated properly. They are poor people in the first place, they are miserable and suffering too.

We have a problem in Egypt that our rights aren't protected anyway.

ELHAM FATHI, TRANSLATOR, CAIRO, 24

I was shocked when I read about this in the blogs. I nearly cried; I pictured myself having to face this kind of shameful experience.

I think there are many reasons young men are behaving like this. It shows how desperate they have become through poverty and unemployment. This means they have to wait longer before they can get married.

The media also has a role to play in this through the images it presents. Movies show heroes as drug addicts and outlaws.

Video clips and commercials use women's bodies and bad language to sell things.

I can believe that the police did nothing to help the women, because I have had experience of this myself.

Once, when I was being kerb-crawled by a man in a car I ran to a policeman for help. He said it was none of his business.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6107216.stm


2 posted on 11/07/2006 1:41:26 PM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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There can be no civilization with islam as a major part.
3 posted on 11/07/2006 1:43:08 PM PST by kinoxi
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I hope the brothers and fathers of the girls go find these yutes and give some family justice. No excuse for that behaivor.

Paris? Cairo? What's the difference?


4 posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:55 PM PST by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
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Isn't full facial nudity banned in most muslim countries?
5 posted on 11/07/2006 1:46:04 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
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I guess the Liberal response would be to up the money we give to the Egyptian government. /S


6 posted on 11/07/2006 1:46:54 PM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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I thought this only happened in Europe...


7 posted on 11/07/2006 1:47:07 PM PST by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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I hope they don't kill the girls to restore the family honor.


8 posted on 11/07/2006 1:47:16 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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Business as usual, we're just paying more attention to these barbarians now.


9 posted on 11/07/2006 1:47:21 PM PST by rageaholic
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DAMN Egyptian cops didn't do jack


10 posted on 11/07/2006 1:49:48 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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Damn that Bush!


11 posted on 11/07/2006 1:50:15 PM PST by D_Idaho
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Sounds like the money Uncle Sam is sending to Egypt, mainly so the country can remain stable, isn't helping much. I hope this does not forbode an islamic revolution and establishment of harsh Sharia law in Egypt. That would just create an ally of Hamas in Gaza and, maybe even bring Egypt back into war with Israel.


12 posted on 11/07/2006 1:50:29 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Reminds me of Central Park.


13 posted on 11/07/2006 1:51:25 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Yup. Under islam, it's the fault of the women for being unescorted by a male relative. After all, such women are like unprotected meat. You can't expect the cats to stay away. (just paraphrasing that crazy Australian muslim imam).


14 posted on 11/07/2006 1:52:35 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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15 posted on 11/07/2006 1:53:43 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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Islam - such peace and tolerance! And what a way to end the "holy month of ramadan"
16 posted on 11/07/2006 1:53:43 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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And the internal preventive to a Sharia coup may be almost as bad. I would not rule out a return to a hard line anti Western Stalinist regime, ala Nasser.


17 posted on 11/07/2006 1:54:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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Bttt


18 posted on 11/07/2006 1:54:48 PM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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A statement by the ministry of the interior ... urged those who had anything to report to contact the police.

Preview of America without full force of the 2nd Amendment.

19 posted on 11/07/2006 1:55:08 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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I read recently from an Imam? "If you put a can of cat food out and the cat eats it, it is not the cats fault"!


20 posted on 11/07/2006 1:55:08 PM PST by SF Republican
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