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The Backlash Begins
spectator.org ^ | The Washington Prowler

Posted on 11/08/2006 7:25:35 AM PST by lasereye

Already you're seeing people criticizing outgoing Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist for the failures in the Senate. Frist certainly deserves to take hits over his inability to control the likes of Sen. John McCain during legislative battles, but without Frist the election might have looked even worse. Tennessee right now is the only strategic hold the Republicans got on Tuesday night, and it was largely because the Frist operation saw Corker's problems earlier this year, took charge of the campaign and got him back on track. And while some Republicans - Allen, perhaps being the greatest offender - chose not to run on the judges issue, Corker, in fact, did. And he won. That wasn't an accident.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; frist; loser
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
"Maybe it is time to go for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on congress critters."

Bingo!

Did that after FDR's four terms ... very much needed in Congress; say with three term limit in House and two term limit in the Senate.

Should also consider extending to Congessional staffers.

41 posted on 11/08/2006 7:58:40 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: Pete
If Frist helped to keep Harold Jr. out of a job, he did a monumental job of it and The country will come to thank him profusely!!!!!
42 posted on 11/08/2006 7:58:43 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (John Gibson is right. " If the Democrats win the terrorist win.")
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To: Mtner77
...."outgoing Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist"....

I thought the votes were still being counted in Montana and Virginia?

Frist was leaving anyway. Corker was elected to his seat.

43 posted on 11/08/2006 7:58:59 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

...."Love him or hate him, McCain represents his constituents in Arizona."....

No he doesn't! McCain represents McCain, period. He sure as H@LL does NOT represent the GOP! Even the freakin' DUmmies call him an "independant". That ought to tell you something. I am not sure that McCain is enough of a conservative to even be called a RINO! I know he has a far better chance of getting the Dem. nomination in'08 than he does of getting the GOP nomination in '08!


44 posted on 11/08/2006 7:59:44 AM PST by Mtner77
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To: lasereye

I think you're right that they don't know how to explain it. Conservatives MUST now begin an offensive on the judges issue, explaining that activist judges BREAK the law by unlawfully inventing law. They circumvent the legislative process. Activism is unconstitutional, illegal and unpatriotic. Until we do this, the Dems will continue to block our nominees while we will have no leverage in attempts to block nominees of their Presidents.


45 posted on 11/08/2006 8:00:39 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Mtner77

Even more of an argument for term limits!


46 posted on 11/08/2006 8:00:58 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: KarlInOhio

...."Frist was leaving anyway. Corker was elected to his seat."....

Got ya.... I didn't know that. I thought they were saying that Virginia and Montana were gone. My bad....


47 posted on 11/08/2006 8:01:56 AM PST by Mtner77
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To: lasereye

New term for those of us who are disappointed with the election results ; Fristration. We've had our party co-opted by someone who has only his own selfish aspirations in mind. First is a non-starter for President in 2008.


48 posted on 11/08/2006 8:03:02 AM PST by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

"Maybe it is time to go for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on congress critters."


You apparently are not paying attention. We already have term limits and results yesterday demonstrated it.


49 posted on 11/08/2006 8:03:04 AM PST by Busywhiskers (Democrats delinda est.)
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To: PeskyOne
"there are some who will claim McCain was right."

Absolutely!
McCain will be presented to us as the proper little republican in a new balance of power.
Meaning, not a Republican at all but someone the left can 'work with' and who is 'willing to be independent' from the party and his constituents.

"I hate to blame the President, but he should have stopped 'trying to get along' with the Dems after they insulted him every time he offered the olive branch. Ted Kennedy all but spit in his and former President Bush's face... after they honored him! I wish former Pres. Bush had waited until GW was out of office before he became buddies with Bill Clinton..."

That seems to be a lesson that Republicans refuse to learn. Maybe it's because the left has practically defined 'conservative' as mean and nasty, but our side continues to try to 'get along' and to prove that we're not only 'nice' but forgiving as hell.
IIRC, that's what cost Gingrich his job despite the Contracts and 'Pubbie majorities.

50 posted on 11/08/2006 8:05:49 AM PST by norton
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To: theFIRMbss

uh huh...right...it's the voters fault...uh huh.


51 posted on 11/08/2006 8:06:57 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: lasereye

All this Monday Morning Quarterbacking is making me sick! It was a horrible night for the GOP and for conservatives. However, it fits perfectly within the historical context of how elections go for a president six years out, especially a president conducting a war.

Just remember the same thing happened to Reagan in 1986. The American electorate is a fickle lot, and the pendulum will again swing in our direction. Few of the losses were severe, percentage-wise, we still have two out that are 'too close to call' but which we will probably lose, seating Leahy as Chair of Judiciary.

No single person or candidate is to blame in this... tho I do wish Tony Snow had gotten to the White House a year earlier (I know he couldn't have, with his surgery) but the WH lost a lot of ground not properly expressing its positions, its successes, and in dealing with the WH press corps.


52 posted on 11/08/2006 8:07:28 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: lasereye

Another thing they didn't run on was pointing out how strong the economy is and claiming some credit for it with respect to the tax cuts the Dems all opposed. What's with these people?


53 posted on 11/08/2006 8:10:05 AM PST by lasereye
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To: kcbc2001

God's wrath.
If America were a Christian country, abortion would not be legal.


54 posted on 11/08/2006 8:10:49 AM PST by karnage
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To: EDINVA
it fits perfectly within the historical context of how elections go for a president six years out, especially a president conducting a war

It's been pointed out that Congress has never changed hands during war (until now).

55 posted on 11/08/2006 8:11:59 AM PST by lasereye
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To: Galtoid

You have to admit it's not a bad strategy...electing DINOs to get the majority and they are new so they will not get powerful commitee assignments and will have to toe the mark. Pubbies should learn from this...We did dump Chaffee and Dewine...lets replace them next time out with RINOs with no senority...and while we are at it lets do the same for Snowe, Collins, Hagel etc. Replace the RINOS with little rinos with no clout. Will take a bit of primary work and the RNC will fight for the old farts. Might also work in Rat territory.....if only the Republicans were conservative.


56 posted on 11/08/2006 8:14:02 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Maybe it is time to go for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on congress critters.

That should have been done long ago but guess who gets to write that little bit of legislation? Our congresscritters who vote themselves the treasury.

Fat chance EVER seeing terms limits in our lifetime. The view is too sweet for them career politicians.

57 posted on 11/08/2006 8:15:33 AM PST by smith288
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To: Les_Miserables
WE:

1 Cut taxes=then increased spending.
2. Secure the Border? Failed
3. We lacked the will to fire our own corrupt people
4. We let Mark Foley survive
5. Tom Delay through ego ran for re election, skewing a easy win if he hadn't
6. Jack Abramoff


We have lost our way. What we need is a rerun/re-commitment to the values and principles that USED to define our party.

Let's face it, the dhimmis won because they were more like us than we were.
59 posted on 11/08/2006 8:16:19 AM PST by p[adre29 (Arma in armatos)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Ohio and Pennsylvania are similar in electoral makeup this year. In Ohio, we ran a mushy moderate and he was crushed by a liberal. In Pennsylvania, we ran a staunch conservative and he was crushed by a pro-life-leaning "moderate" liberal.

Not sure what the lesson is there, but the Dems analyzed our weaknesses and picked good candidates to match up against us apparently. Thes same goes for Montana, the MN and MD open seats, and even TN was closer than it should have been.

The DEMS picked better candidates than we did in going after incumbents and open seats. And that is painfully obvious in Florida, Nebraska, West Virginia, North Dakota, New Mexico, and Wisconsin where we didn't have competitive campaigns...(whether that is bad candidate choice, or bad differntiation strategies is a good question to have answered)


60 posted on 11/08/2006 8:19:01 AM PST by RobFromGa (I'm still optimistic about our future!)
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