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Navajo President Hopeful About Dems
Forbes & AP ^ | November 9, 2006 | Felicia Fonseca

Posted on 11/09/2006 11:31:54 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

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To: Concho

Just another liberal Democrat Plantation group that is "STUCK ON STUPID".


41 posted on 11/09/2006 12:58:11 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: Redcitizen
Things need to be changed. There is a lot of work to be done to get Native Americans to have greater economic freedom. Too much reliance upon government is not good for any people group.

The Shoshone/Bannock Fort Hall reservation is immediately north of my town in Idaho. They have a big casino. Even with the casino, there are plenty of people willing to exist in squalor on the government dole. Morbid obesity is the norm. Alcohol is forbidden on the reservation, so we get lots of drunk and disorderly Native American patrons in the local bars. DUI and driving without a license, registration or insurance are also the "norm".

42 posted on 11/09/2006 12:59:04 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Miss Marple

Amen!! The Indians have a rez on the Pacific coast of Washington calle Le Push....it COULD be beautiful...the scenery is magnificent...it's a dump.


43 posted on 11/09/2006 1:00:22 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: Miss Marple

"However,, it seems to me the quickest way to make money other than casinos is tourism, and I mean the big bucks kind. A resort capitalizing on Navajo culture would attract a lot of people who are interested, and especially Europeans. "

There seems to be a confusing logic with Native Americans. I've noticed this in Cherokee NC. "I am unique and you cannot take my heritage from me. I am Cherokee and I have culture all of my own." and then "Hey, quit staring at me".


44 posted on 11/09/2006 1:10:36 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: Myrddin

"so we get lots of drunk and disorderly Native American patrons in the local bars. DUI and driving without a license, registration or insurance are also the "norm"."

And 300 years later, it's still the White Man's fault.


45 posted on 11/09/2006 1:20:18 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: Red Badger

Red, can the Indian Nations establish their own Bank?


46 posted on 11/09/2006 8:13:41 PM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Redcitizen
I drove through the Crow and Northern Cheyenne reservations in Montana last week and was surprised by all of the small businesses that are cropping up. When I inquired about them, I was informed that a large percentage of the newer generation of Crow and Cheyenne are using federal grants to open up these businesses so they do not have to rely upon government handouts or working in the casinos for their livelihood.

They still have quite a ways to go, but they are making some steady progress.

47 posted on 11/09/2006 8:25:14 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I see storms on the horizon.")
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To: Southerngl
There seems to be a confusing logic with Native Americans. I've noticed this in Cherokee NC. "I am unique and you cannot take my heritage from me. I am Cherokee and I have culture all of my own." and then "Hey, quit staring at me".

I've driven through Cherokee. It is quite funny to see tee-pees when they were never the abode of the Eastern tribes. I admire the Cherokee there, though, they were able to at least escape Gen. Andrew Jackson and hide out in those mountains to avoid the infamous "Trail of Tears."

48 posted on 11/09/2006 8:47:52 PM PST by meandog (This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it!)
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To: Miss Marple
don't know much about the Navajo nation, I confess, except for what I have read in Tony Hillerman books, and I'm not sure how much of that is accurate.

Miss Marple:
Each year our church does a mission trip to the Rosebud Rez in S.D. to rehabilitate housing. I was overwhelmed at what I saw there my first time out. Indians throw away nothing. Consequently all one sees is junk--junk cars, rusted pipes, old metal, junk, junk and more junk. The landfills there are completely empty!
You'll also find a lot of drunks and white X's painted on the roads where alcoholics have died in car crashes. Also, Type II and I incidences of diabetes is staggering.

The reason for the alcohol and diabetes I was told is that until 100 years ago the Indians enjoyed a strict diet of buffalo meat and other game; their livers never knew alcohol or sugar until the white man came along. The reason for the junk is that Indians figure they will have a use for whatever is kept someday.

The Episcopal Bishop Hare Center in Mission, S.C., where we stayed was a former boarding school where Indian children were once taken from there families and beaten 'til they squealed if they uttered one word of Lakota.

A lot about what I've read in other postings about the reservation system is true with regard to the councils...but my heart still goes out for the children of the places.
Incidentally, at every Indian Pow-Wow the first people honored are veterans and it doesn't matter if you're white or red, you are honored as fellow warriors. Indians have the highest percentage of enlisted members per capita in the American armed forces since 1921--when they first became citizens of a country they once owned.

49 posted on 11/09/2006 9:03:35 PM PST by meandog (This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it!)
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To: darkwing104

"Once proud nation is now being reduced to a welfare state..."

So true. I wonder what the Democrats plan to do whenever they finally manage to get ninety-five percent of the American people herded into their "automatic voting bloc plantation". The top five percent had better really produce or else Atlas will shrug big time. . or maybe the Dems only need a majority with a few extra for good measure on the plantation and the rest of the people coughing up ninety percent of their income for taxes. Hmm.. that's a plan. They're well on their way; own a big part of the plantation population now.


50 posted on 11/10/2006 2:23:18 AM PST by Twinkie ("I JUST LOVE READING MIA T's THREADS!" exclaimed Little Lulu.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I think anyone can establish a bank, per the rules of its own state and the Fed's. If you mean and independent bank, like the Swiss or Cayman Islands, I don't think so..........


51 posted on 11/10/2006 5:16:09 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Red Badger
"I think anyone can establish a bank, per the rules of its own state and the Fed's."

Well selling money is one of the fastest ways to generate wealth. Your Navajo nation could establish banks both on and off your lands and with a bit of fiscal discipline you should be able to in a very short time be flush with profits. It also allows you to make loans to your people to help them establish their own wealth generating properties and businesses.

If I understand correctly how many of the Casinos work, shares from the profits are distributed to the members of the tribe. (I believe I read this recently in an expose on Native American Casinos and their inner workings) The same could be done with the banks but at the same time not risk the criminal element that comes with Casinos.

Just a thought friend.

Mad Dawgg

52 posted on 11/10/2006 5:38:32 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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