Bush Eyes Democrats for Help on Amnesty

Washington Times ^ | Nov.9 | Stephen Dinan

[freedomdefender]

Why wouldn't Dems like amnesty? It means millions more voters for their party.

[madison10]

Oh, I get it, they're Chameleon dogs. I should have known. They'll cheat their own people to get power a la Huey Long?

Principles in the Democrat Party are things to be trampled...if they were there in the first place.

What exactly was Zell Miller?

[seasoned traditionalist]

"We'll see. I support many of Bush's proposals. And if it takes Dem support to enact them, I have no problem with that.

But then I know some illegals who've been here more than 20 years, and would like to see them stay and get a chance to become citizens.

So it's become a personal issue with me.

You and your "illegal" friends and W and his nanny. Great.

Don't know where you live "Jorge," but I hope you get inundated with 10's or even 100's of thousands of "undocumented immigrants." You deserve them and can pay for them.

Not me. Thank God I'm 63 and probably won't live long enough (I give it 25 - 30 years)to see this country turn into a different America as we have known it for 500 years, and will never be the same again--EVER.

Good luck and have a nice Latin American Life!!!!!!

[Anti-Hillary]

Actually, I think they would equate their good fortune with the Pubbies because Bush was the man who gave it to them. Who knows...

Seriously though, what does anyone around here propose we do with 12 million of these people? There is NO way you can send them all back.

[P-40]

He's already killed off the Republican party.

They've been sent a message. If they get it and act on it, they will be okay. If not....good riddance.

[outdriving]

Ultimately, it's a win-win situation for Bush and the rest of the North American Union boosters. It has been all along, as long as an open borders traitor is President.

1.) If no invasion legislation is passed, Bush will continue to refuse to enforce existing law and allow thousands of Mexicans to sneak in every day. Ever notice that all the new "enforcement" applies only to OTM border jumpers?

2.) Comprehensive Immigration Sellout passes and tens of millions of new immigrants are allowed (mainly from Mexico) and millions already here are amnestied.

Unless there is a huge backlash from Nationalist patriots against this destruction of our country, the fix is in. We no longer have to pretend to support the RINO administration or congresscritters to prevent a demorat takeover. It just happened. Time to take off the gloves.

Read between the lines, that is what Rush just said. "Time to take off the gloves".

[VOA]

When Nacy says jump or roll over, those "blue dogs" will turn into
"lap dogs" faster, than you can say ALPO!!!

IF there was someone smart in the Republican hierarchy,
they'd keep track of how many of these "blue dogs" ran with an
anti-illegal immigrant plank during the election...
then flip and vote for straight amnesty in the next year.

I think I know of one:
Claire McCaskill (D, MO) ran as "tougher than Talent" on immigration
issues. And sadly, Talent didn't run any ads that called her on it.

Oh, well, what's the point of even thinking about this?
Amnesty IS a done deal as of Nov. 8.

[do the dhue]

Clueless.

2004 gave Bush a mandate to act like a Conservative. He and Congress did not do it, they accomplished nothing. They got voted out and now think they need to act like a Demorat.

He had the chance to go down as one of the best. If he goes and acts like a RAT, he will go down as the worst.

[seasoned traditionalist]

Why wouldn't Dems like amnesty? It means millions more voters for their party.

EXACTLY!!

And I just can't understand WHY Bush is pushing this???

Has he, Rove and other Republicans who support this lost their minds???

Sure, both D's and R's are looking for voters, but historically, the Latin Americans have voted D's 4 - 1.

So we pick up 5 million and the Dhimis pick up 15.

Ah, really brilliant, George, you Girlie Man Moron.

You threw us Conservatives under the bus, so why not now, just run over us!!!!!

[P-40]

There is NO way you can send them all back.

Yes and no. It is always assumed that these people want to be citizens. Some do, some don't. After the last poorly thought out amnesty plan, quite a few jumped at the chance to be a citizen. Others just figured out that it did not matter. Why pay taxes when you can get services either way? If you make it difficult for them to get a job and impossible for them to get welfare, many of them will leave and few will want to come here.

[stripes1776]

If he wants to kill off the Republican Party then he should keep pushing those amnesty plans...or whatever he wants to call them.

Bush's ineptitude and Rockerfeller-style liberalism will not kill off the Grand Old Party. That faction of the party has been around a long time. But I think it did make the Republicans a minority party. Why vote for a liberal Republican when you can get the real thing with a Democrat?

Republicans gained the majority in Congress after several years of competent conservative leadership. We just don't have anyone at present to articulate conservative policy in a compelling fashion that will capture the imagination of the "mushy middle." Someone will come along eventually, but we may a while. In the meantime, keep fighting the good fight.

[P-40]

I know some illegals who've been here more than 20 years

If they have been here that long they had several chances to become citizens under the 1986 plan and its extensions.

[greene66]

Yep, this is the little land-mine that I've been holding my breath on, guardedly hoping against reality that Bush might somehow drop this rancid obsession of his. I had voted for and supported Bush wholeheartedly (even made trips to Crawford!), but if amnesty goes through, he can be personally vivisected by Pelosi on the House floor, for all I'll care. And, he can share the same corner of Hell reserved for that scumbag Bill Clinton. Never thought in my wildest dreams I'd come to that situation. Especially from my own Party. But weird, insane things happen.

If amnesty goes through, the country is OVER, as far as I'm concerned. War on Terror? Abortion? Taxes? Who cares? I sure won't. Nothing in my political/cultural existence will resonate any more strongly than this thorough selling-out of our country. I'll never, never forgive.

[VOA]

Why wouldn't Dems like amnesty? It means millions more voters for their party.

Yes.
What I was talking about are the Demos who do actually work for a living
and think that a vote for the Dems was a vote for someone that
"looks out for the little guy".
But they'll find out they'll just be helping to move millions of
folks north of the border and paying all their social costs.

If they have any brains they'll at least not be happy Democrats.
But maybe I'm being a bit too generous.

[taxed2death]

If you sit back and look at the big picture...you'd swear the guy was actively trying to dismantle the Republican party piece by piece, bit by bit.

[kalee]

I am afraid those blue dogs will turn yellow real quick, when Pelosi starts obedience classes. They will do as they are told.

[seasoned traditionalist]

IF there was someone smart in the Republican hierarchy, they'd keep track of how many of these "blue dogs" ran with an anti-illegal immigrant plank during the election... then flip and vote for straight amnesty in the next year.

Okay, I'm even willing to do it. I'll track EVERY vote. I'll volunteer to sit day after day that Congress is in session; do research and compile a very extensive report.

Will you find a way to get it reported throughout the country, including by the MSM???

I'm being sarcastic, but do you really think "they" care?

Do you really think the average American is going to follow this, EVEN if it was reported, which we all know it won't be?

The majority of Americans are not as politically astute as we Freepers are and only pay attention (and of course they get their news mostly from ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN) just before the elections.

WON'T MAKE A BIT A DIFFERENCE.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

"I think at some point someone will share with the President that he just lost both houses of Congress because he ticked off the Conservatives with this sort of crap. If he wants to kill off the Republican Party then he should keep pushing those amnesty plans...or whatever he wants to call them".

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I'm beginning to think they don't care.

[SQUID]

I really don't know why Bush is pandering to a group of people that would not be inclined to vote republican even if they could.

Even if the damn ballot is written in Spanish.

[Sam Clements]

Anti-Hillary, you are correct. We can't send them home. The Federal govt for decades has left the back door open. State and local govts have extended every manner of benefits to illegals. Employers, businesses, landlords, homeowners, and everyone else has extended a warm welcome to illegals for those same decades. Maybe we were all wrong, but we did it. These illegals saw what was being offered and they simply took it. It is too late to change things now and send them home. Lets get real and take deportation off the table for law abiding residents. Its time for our Congress to do their job and solve this problem both for now and for the future. The rest of us who are not in Congress can offer up our two cents and then accept the collective wisdom of our representatives. FYI, I am a Conservative Republican. Our side didn't get the job done and time is still passing by. Now is the time to come up with a solution and then live with it. Getting some direction in a case like this is better than more decades of indecision.