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1 posted on 11/10/2006 9:37:01 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: bd476; lainie

This feels like history repeating itself.


2 posted on 11/10/2006 9:38:37 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

And yet how much of LA's income is from Valley taxes? 85%? The city is sucking us dry.


3 posted on 11/10/2006 9:39:09 AM PST by The Blitherer (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Got a link for this?


4 posted on 11/10/2006 9:41:36 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: BurbankKarl
"I only have so many officers to go around," Bratton said. "I can't manufacture cops."

Could the NRA ask for a more fitting slogan?

Hello, people!? This is exactly why we have the Second Amendment. Leaving the defense of your own life, the lives of your loved ones, as well as your property to the government is simply insane!

5 posted on 11/10/2006 9:41:38 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: BurbankKarl

Well LA, you're on your own. I advise GUNS!!


6 posted on 11/10/2006 9:41:42 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: BurbankKarl

I've never been to LA or the Valley - but I guess I had always thought of the Valley has a white middle to upper middle class refuge from the rest of LA. Maybe I'm still stuck in a 80's mentality about that area.

Has the Valley deteriorated that badly?

What are the bad and good parts of the Valley?


8 posted on 11/10/2006 9:43:53 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: BurbankKarl

And the gangs are spreading their turf constantly. Glad I got the chance to move out of that cesspool, Calif does not believe you have the right to defend yourself.


10 posted on 11/10/2006 9:45:51 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: BurbankKarl

Guns work good. Having one in my car enables me to drive through the bad part of town late at night and give a friendly wave to the drug dealers and pimps that stand in the middle of the street as I pass on through.


12 posted on 11/10/2006 9:46:50 AM PST by Firefigher NC
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To: BurbankKarl

If cops can't be manufactured, then let's re-assign cops from other areas of law enforcement and beef up the robbery units. Maybe it's time to re-write various vice laws, giving up the prohibitions on adult vice and put in regulatory vice laws, like we do with alcohol. Then police officers from the drug and prostitution squads could be re-tasked to the robbery unit. It will never happen though, makes too much sense. ;-)


14 posted on 11/10/2006 9:49:52 AM PST by Unknown Pundit (I really do post with a paper bag over my head.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Zine, who has asked for a meeting with gang leaders

Once he gets them all in one place, he ought to just take 'em out. But, nooooooooooo... he wants to talk.

"We need to say, `OK, this is the problem; you´re creating death and violence in the community. We need to come to a solution,"´ Zine said.

15 posted on 11/10/2006 9:50:49 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: BurbankKarl
"I only have so many officers to go around," Bratton said. "I can't manufacture cops."

Last time I checked, this country still has the capability, if not the will, to manufacture additional jail cells. Now if we could just find the ability and the will to elect politicians who will pass laws and appoint judges to fill up the additional jail cells with violent offenders, we might be on the way to help solve the Chief's problem.

But heck, it's alot easier to blame the object (the gun), assist the career criminal in his abdication of personal responsibility, and continue to scratch our heads about the ongoing violent crime in society. (/sarcasm)

19 posted on 11/10/2006 9:57:10 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: BurbankKarl
"I think there are safe places in the Valley - many more safe places than dangerous ones," Moore said.

LOL! If that isn't a statement from some 3rd world banana republic, I don't know what is. Welcome to California, gringos.

20 posted on 11/10/2006 9:57:23 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: BurbankKarl

I'm thinking that it's very easy to combat gangs, drug-dealing, and all the rest.

You simply get into an old car, and start driving around slowly while a passenger runs a video camera. After 2-3 passes, the drug dealers close up shop, the ho's go away, and the word is definitely out.

On several occasions, I've "confronted" local kids that I knew were dealing drugs. I told them that I'd heard that (gasp!) drugs were being sold, and asked them if they knew anything about that. They always said "no", started calling me "sir" (a dead giveaway of guilt), and we agreed that they'd call me if they heard of anything. It always took care of the problem.

The key here is that the neigbors allow it, usually because it's their kids (and tenants!) doing the bad stuff. I've seen dozens of cases, some locally, where the residents fight the cops in everything they do, then have the gall to b*tch about the violence. Go figure.


22 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:19 AM PST by TWohlford
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To: BurbankKarl

If it was made illegal for citizens to carry or own firearms, then all of this gang violence would stop.


31 posted on 11/10/2006 10:16:20 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BurbankKarl

Secede, secede!!! We need to get out of the shadows of Los Angeles.


32 posted on 11/10/2006 10:16:40 AM PST by siddude
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To: BurbankKarl

I grew up in the valley during the late 80s and early 90s. My family moved to Malibu, and I moved to the Westside. After my wife and I got married we bought our first house in Simi Valley (we love it here, West of of San Fernando Valley). Goign back to the San Fernando Valley has been a culture shock. I don't even recognize it anymore.

Shopping carts strewn about, signs in Spanish, and shopping centers that look like they came from a 3rd world country.

Was quite saddened by it actually. I wonder how long Simi Valley has to go until the Westward/Northward march continues for those of us who speak English (and hell, I'm not even white, my parents are immigrants to this country -- legal).


33 posted on 11/10/2006 10:27:13 AM PST by rom
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To: BurbankKarl
I have the PERFECT solution to all the valleys problems. Take away guns from all law abiding citizens. That will fix it.

/s

44 posted on 11/10/2006 10:51:59 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: BurbankKarl

Not one word that the gangs are illegal aliens or the children of illegal aliens.


45 posted on 11/10/2006 10:52:19 AM PST by Exton1
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To: BurbankKarl
Only 408 homicides?

In 1979 and 1980, Miami had over 600 homicides per year. Much of the time, we never uncovered the victim's names!

65 posted on 11/10/2006 2:55:32 PM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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BurbankKarl,


"What we're doing is starting up a peace movement. If we don't, who will?"


That's just Priceless (LOL) ...


Patton-at-Bastogne

"May God and His Angels Guard Your Sacred Throne, and May You Long Become It."

Shakespeare, Henry V, Act I, Scene II


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72 posted on 11/11/2006 5:42:27 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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