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Brown wants to expand GPS monitoring beyond tracking sex offenders
San Francisco Gate ^ | Nov 10, 2006 | Chip Johnson

Posted on 11/10/2006 7:33:26 PM PST by bigdcaldavis

Gunshots ring out in a neighborhood, and law enforcement's first move is to pull up a computer screen to see whether the sound came from areas equipped with electronic devices that track the source of gunfire.

Then a public safety employee keys up another monitor and uses Global Positioning System technology to identify the locations of the city's worst-known violent offenders -- to determine whether any of them are in the spot where the shots were fired.

Such a brave new world is coming to Oakland -- and it seems likely that it will become a reality elsewhere in California now that crime-fighting Mayor Jerry Brown is about to become the state's attorney general.

He has been unable to nudge, cajole or criticize county probation and state parole agents into keeping closer tabs on ex-offenders released in his city, but that may not be a problem in his next job.

Brown, who begins his new job in January, is keenly interested in using technology to shore up the Oakland Police Department's understaffed force.

At several locations with a high incidence for gunfire, the city has installed a device, called ShotSpotter, which uses sound to approximate the location of gunfire. Now the city is launching a pilot program using GPS monitors tethered to ex-cons.

So far, 17 ex-offenders living in the city have agreed to wear the units instead of facing criminal trials or parole-revocation hearings, said Lt. Pete Sarna.

Brown, meanwhile, has been directly involved in talks with the parole division of the state Department of Corrections to expand the use of such monitors, said Bill Sessa, a department spokesman. Brown is adamant about the need to monitor the most-violent offenders in Oakland, where homicides and other crimes have skyrocketed this year.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bravenewworld; gps; moonbeam; nannystate; realid; rfid; tagging
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No surprise, since Proposition 83 passed in California. Proposition 83 requires lifetime GPS tracking for sex offenders...but you know the 9th Circus will rule that to be "unconstitutional discrimination", which will be a de facto expansion of mandatory GPS tracking to include all citizens.

Congratulations, idiot sheeple of the People's Republic of California. You just played into the devil's hands.

The solution to sex offenders is NOT lifetime GPS tracking. The solution is a mandatory "one strike, you're out" law mandating life in prison without the possibility of parole for the very first child sex offense.
1 posted on 11/10/2006 7:33:27 PM PST by bigdcaldavis
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To: bigdcaldavis

Believe me there is a Multi-Cultural Re-Education Camp proposal on Jerry's desk and he will do more than give it the once over.


2 posted on 11/10/2006 7:37:00 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: samadams2000
Stalinism returns: Reeducation.
"We don't need to reeducation/We don't need no thought control" Tolerating the intolerable should not be painted over, dressed up for the prom, and made to be "education." Barrrrf.
3 posted on 11/10/2006 7:45:05 PM PST by PatrickF4
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To: bigdcaldavis

What a supprise … let’s just track everybody. I would suggest a tracking chip implanted in the hand and a redundant chip in the forehead (could loose either one!).

Alternative … instant death to sex offenders, no tracking devices needed.


4 posted on 11/10/2006 7:53:40 PM PST by doc1019
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To: bigdcaldavis
Get ready for Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chips in your driver's license. (CNET: How Real ID will affect you)

California already has a magnetic stripe. RFID is just the next step.

5 posted on 11/10/2006 7:55:19 PM PST by Qout
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To: doc1019

Maybe it's the neo-libiot movement that is the Whore Of Babylon. After all, the neo-libiots whore themselves out to their NWO backers. :D


6 posted on 11/10/2006 7:57:55 PM PST by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: traviskicks; Gabz

GPS/BB watching potential nanny-ping.

This GPS tracking is scary.

The government would never abuse it though. They'll only track bad people.

Honest.


7 posted on 11/10/2006 8:01:03 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: 383rr

Yeah....where the hell are the truther now?

Libs out of power....kooks...

Libs in power...dangerous...


8 posted on 11/10/2006 8:04:07 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: bigdcaldavis

Yes, the voting public has no idea what it just did with the recent dangerous election outcome. Every far-leftist socialist nutjob, like Professor Moonbeam, is on the rampage to put a number on your arm, put a tracking collar on you, and stamp a red star on your forehead.

Yes the voters just stupidly walked right into socialist quicksand....


9 posted on 11/10/2006 8:11:54 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

And as far as I'm concerned, every single voter who approved Proposition 83 DESERVE to be branded like cattle/sheep being led to the slaughterhouses.


10 posted on 11/10/2006 8:15:23 PM PST by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: Qout
a big magnet took care of the mag stripe on my driver's license, a hammer will take care of the RFID when it occurs.

Cheers

11 posted on 11/10/2006 8:15:56 PM PST by theymakemesick (Under sharia law, bacon will be illegal in Americistan, reason enough to keep islam out of America)
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To: bigdcaldavis
identify the locations of the city's worst-known violent offenders -- to determine whether any of them are in the spot where the shots were fired.

Sounds like profiling, and we all know how liberals hate profiling. Who knows, the culprit could be an old lady in a wheelchair.

12 posted on 11/10/2006 8:17:34 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: bigdcaldavis

A little depth here would be appreciated.


13 posted on 11/10/2006 8:22:58 PM PST by doc1019
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To: bigdcaldavis

This doesn't make any sense at all. What they should do is make GPS monitors mandatory for every gun owner.


14 posted on 11/10/2006 8:26:27 PM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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Then a public safety employee keys up another monitor and uses Global Positioning System technology to identify the locations of the city's worst-known violent offenders -- to determine whether any of them are in the spot where the shots were fired.

"Let me get this straight. You let violent criminals roam the streets and locate them when shots are fired."

15 posted on 11/10/2006 8:43:01 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: bigdcaldavis
All you FReepers that support everything up to execution for 'sex offenders', I hope you are not surprised, and support this also as well as the upcoming GPS on CCW bearers. I put those words in quotation marks because in my book someone who pisses in an alley or a 17 year old having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend is not a sex offender but is branded so for life. So many have you have bought the MSM and liberal/feminist line that anyone branded as such much have been raping 8 year olds or something. I haven't examined the stats, but am willing to bet that very few of these offences involved children and also many if not most did not involve violence.

Even bigcaldavis here, in his response, says The solution to sex offenders is NOT lifetime GPS tracking. The solution is a mandatory "one strike, you're out" law mandating life in prison without the possibility of parole for the very first child sex offense. blithely equating 'sex offender' with child sex offender.

16 posted on 11/10/2006 8:53:07 PM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: Crim

This makes a great tagline:

"Libs out of power are kooks. Libs in power are dangerous."


17 posted on 11/10/2006 10:39:38 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Bush haters on both sides have elected the government they have dreamed of!)
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To: 383rr
"The government would never abuse it though. They'll only track bad people.
Honest."

Of course that was being sarcastic, but they have a way around just tracking bad people that many of the public will accept.

If every child is implanted at birth "so there is never another lost child" they eventually will have a reason to implant everyone. It will start with the children.

With GPS now fitting on a very small microchip it is not long till they know where "our at risk children" are all the time.

It will all start with the "good of the children". Then the first time there is a young woman who is kidnapped and goes missing or found raped and dead they will be able to sell it to the public.. and the masses will buy it. Then how about that senior citizen who gets lost and can't be found for a few days?

It is NOT just the bad guys they want to track or will be able to. Eventually (and sadly) mostly the good citizens will be tracked, only criminals (and illegal immigrants) will not be.

Think anyone will get away without a tracker? How about the chip be necessary to cash your pay check... "it is for your convenience against identity theft" Need to use your SS Medicare benefits and/or get your now government discounted prescription drugs (already mentioned by the dems)?

Will employers be required to scan everyone before they get a job? Hey, the government requires employers to check two forms of ID and get your social security number now.

Not too much of a step to require them to scan your implanted chip. And a small under skin chip is not to much to ask to prevent medicare fraud.. after all it will save bilions

Is this what our founding fathers wanted? Jerry Brown with his ideas and the dems in power makes it more believable than ever.

All these possibilities frighten me because the party who wants to "protect the children, senior citizens, women, minorities, and disadvantaged" is in power now.
18 posted on 11/10/2006 11:19:09 PM PST by JSteff
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To: Northern Alliance

I don't support the biometric tracking of ANY type of criminal because of the legal ramifications that could come from that on discrimination grounds.

Let's say tomorrow the neo-cons pass a federal law requiring VeriChip implants in all sex offenders (after all, a federal sex offender registry/database is now federal law). What would happen when the U.S. Supreme Court declares that, in a decision written by Ginsturd, to be unconstitutional? Or worse yet, what if Ginsturd also puts in her majority decision words like "If the federal government were to apply this mandate to all citizens, it would be constitutional"?

Just remember...Big Brother tracking technology is always pushed on the sheeple with some of these slogans :

"It's for your own good."
"It's for security."
"It's for the children."

Here is an example of how children are being conditioned to live in the Big Brother tracking/tracing surveillance state :

http://www.kidsafeid.com/ ("I LOVE MY KIDSAFE ID CUZ IT'S COOL")...this is how children are being conditioned to worship the police state...by presenting it as "cool".



19 posted on 11/10/2006 11:56:31 PM PST by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: bigdcaldavis

How does he legally hold the post he was elected to since he had to be an active lawyer for 5 years before he could run to begin with.

He was only active three years and his victory should be null and void.


20 posted on 11/10/2006 11:59:01 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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