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Dems Turnout Higher Than GOP For First Time Since 1990
American University ^ | Nov. 9, 2006 | American University

Posted on 11/11/2006 12:00:19 AM PST by FairOpinion

The Democratic share of the eligible vote casting ballots for the House of Representatives increased from 16.8 percent in 2002 to 17.9 in 2006.

The Republican share declined sharply, from 19.2 percent in 2002 to 16.8 in 2006. This marks the first mid-term election since 1990 in which the Democrats garnered more votes that the GOP.

In the ballots so far counted in 2006 (and again excluding California, Oregon and Washington), citizens cast 31,703,311 votes for Democratic candidates for U.S. House, compared to 28,749,023 in 2002. The Republican candidates received 29,920,240 votes in 2006 compared with 32,771,580 in 2002.

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Facts and figures prove that Republicans lost, because many didn't bother to turn out and vote.

Republicans and conservatives who voted at least have a clear conscience, we did our duty.

The Dems turned out their people, they wanted to win, you can't blame them for that.

But Republicans and conservatives who didn't bother voting are directly responsible for the current Dem Congress.

1 posted on 11/11/2006 12:00:22 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Those protest voting or who didn't vote had sh!t for brains.


2 posted on 11/11/2006 12:02:03 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

And you should see how proud they are of it, as you read some of the threads.


3 posted on 11/11/2006 12:03:11 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: FairOpinion
Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! But I'm not dead!
4 posted on 11/11/2006 12:03:22 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman (Exodus 18:21)
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To: FairOpinion

That is because they are so dumb they wouldn't know they were wrong if they walked out a third story window.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 12:05:36 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: FairOpinion
Dems Turnout Higher Than GOP For First Time Since 1990

NO DUH!

6 posted on 11/11/2006 12:07:58 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: FairOpinion
But Republicans and conservatives who didn't bother voting are directly responsible for the current Dem Congress.

YEP. And they NO right to complain.

7 posted on 11/11/2006 12:09:51 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: A CA Guy

"they wouldn't know they were wrong if they walked out a third story window."


I wouldn't mind that. The problem is that they are dragging us with them, and we have to suffer for their lack of any sense. And we are aware of why it's happening, but they don't understand that they caused it and could easily have prevented it, if they had acted as responsible adults.

And what's worse, they never learn, despite several brutal lessons -- as in the Perot voters gave us Bill Clinton and launched Hillary's presidential bid, they almost gave us Gore by voting for Buchanan and they just gave us a Dem Congress, which may kill us all.


8 posted on 11/11/2006 12:11:34 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: FairOpinion

It is rather amazing, isn't it? Well, dumbfounding is maybe a better word.


9 posted on 11/11/2006 12:13:54 AM PST by top 2 toe red (~**~I liked Tuesday, November 7, 2006...a lot better before the votes were counted. ~**~)
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To: FairOpinion
The first order of responsibility lies with the Republican congress and the President who squandered the opportunity to lead, and not act like democrats lite. The voters did their duty to put them in office for that purpose in the first place. So while I think it was a serious mistake for the voters to do what they did, they are not the primary cause.
10 posted on 11/11/2006 12:14:57 AM PST by DB (?)
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To: FairOpinion

I haven't seen any of those threads.

Lucky I guess...


11 posted on 11/11/2006 12:17:20 AM PST by DB ()
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To: DB

As I said before, conservatives staying home is like a person who caught the flu from a friend, is so mad at his friend that he goes out in the cold to catch life threatening pneumonia -- that'll show the friend.


12 posted on 11/11/2006 12:17:51 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: FairOpinion

Yep, there are a lot of people here on FR who are just beaming with pride that they did their part in giving Congress over to the Democrats.


13 posted on 11/11/2006 12:18:05 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: DB

I have seen a post, I should have bookmarked it, where someone was expounding that "true blue conservatives" were so upset with Republicans that they voted for the Dems and are happy that the Dems won.

Now what kind of conservatives are these?!

That was just one of the most outrageous ones, but I have seen plenty of others who seem upset that I am proposing that the Republicans need to figure out a win strategy for 2008 now. They keep saying that winning is not what's important.


14 posted on 11/11/2006 12:20:20 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: FairOpinion




They lost us the chance for a conservative majority SCOTUS.


15 posted on 11/11/2006 12:21:14 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: FairOpinion

This depressing stat also explains why Bush-Rove (and I) thought the GOP would defy the pre-election polling and win or at least hold with high turnout. They were quite sure of this, as was I. For all the GOP faults, I thought people on the right would vote as strong as ever to keep the Dems out of power. A lesson for us all as to why that didn't happen...


16 posted on 11/11/2006 12:22:57 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: onyx

"They lost us the chance for a conservative majority SCOTUS."


Exactly. That's why WINNING MATTERS.


17 posted on 11/11/2006 12:23:12 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: FairOpinion



WINNING ALWAYS MATTERS!


19 posted on 11/11/2006 12:24:09 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: FairOpinion

and I thought only democRats were sore losers...

bash bash bash

it seems to be your favorite pasttime here ,, did ya ever consider figuring out ways to motivate people instead of lambasting and haranguing them into voting, very few at FR didn't vote, take your message where it would do more good.. haven't we had enough days of whining here already?


20 posted on 11/11/2006 12:24:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

"haven't we had enough days of whining here already"


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So stop it!

What some of us are doing is trying to get people to start working on a strategy to win in 2008. Continuing to do what caused us to lose is NOT the winning strategy.


21 posted on 11/11/2006 12:27:23 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: FairOpinion

I have seen a post, I should have bookmarked it, where someone was expounding that "true blue conservatives" were so upset with Republicans that they voted for the Dems and are happy that the Dems won.

--

I have seen you post stuff like this before, an allegation you somehow now can't back up but make it anyway,, Priceless! ..

now that is the old FO we're used to. whew.. almost had me thinking they replaced you on the account team.


22 posted on 11/11/2006 12:27:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: Made in USA
They succeeded in getting rid of a couple of RINOS

Lugar is such a RINO the DEMs didn't even field a Candidate!


23 posted on 11/11/2006 12:29:25 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: FairOpinion
"Facts and figures prove that Republicans lost, because many didn't bother to turn out and vote."

There are no facts and figures given here that support the conclusion. These data and statistics are lumped and include the swayed. the only way to get data on real R voters is roughly to compare straight R voter numbers for a john doe(R) against an incumbent D in prior mid term, or presidential year elections with this one.

24 posted on 11/11/2006 12:32:38 AM PST by spunkets
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To: FairOpinion

The dems I talk to, especially women, say they can't stand the anti-evolution, pro-life, anti-stem cell, terri schiavo crowd.

They think they are nuts, and the US version of the taliban.

I agree.


25 posted on 11/11/2006 12:33:11 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Democrats aren't particularly committed voters...which is why I always hope for rainy and/or cold weather each election season to reduce their turnout. This is especially applicable to urban voters...they absolutely can't be bothered walking someplace in rainy conditions. Republicans tend to be a bit more hardy when it comes to reaching the polling place.

~ Blue Jays ~

26 posted on 11/11/2006 12:34:38 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: FairOpinion

Hey, you're guy won,, all you are pushing is more socialists,, which in California in its current state is unfortunately doable as its all about demographics, ..

now you want to take it to the natioanl scene, where it just won't fly if some of us here have anything to say about it,. so stifle it yourself.. you are nothing more than a TWirP supporter.

the MSM and its perpetual liberal lie machine ground the base into the ground, suppressed votes and turn-out , and waalaaa , the dems won.. is that too tough to follow..

amazingly the GUb held his ground but he wasn't re-lected as a conservative much less a republican, his opponent was awful , all he had to be was not too bad.. imo, we all deserve better, not the twaddle you continue to push..

also, I don't think your proposal is so suited to win the day next go around, it is clear that your efforts have never been about supporting conservatism, only social democrats with an R by their name, the rush to socialism continues and you continue to support it, you're up to supporting it , all the while acting under the guise of being pure and holy,, ya got the holey part right. pure of motive? , I doubt it.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 12:35:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: Tamzee; BigSkyFreeper; bonfire; La Enchiladita


Ping


28 posted on 11/11/2006 12:44:49 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: spunkets

Read the document at the link. It's 85 pages with a lot of detail, providing lots of evidence for their summary statements.


29 posted on 11/11/2006 12:45:02 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: MonroeDNA
pro-life, anti-stem cell

Hmmm, First of all I don't know ANYONE that is Anti-Stem cell, second I'm not to sure how many people are giddy over as many abortions that we have in the US.

30 posted on 11/11/2006 12:45:31 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: FairOpinion; spunkets

Wait a few days, probably more like a few weeks and fec.gov will have ALL the data


31 posted on 11/11/2006 12:47:20 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: COEXERJ145
Yep, there are a lot of people here on FR who are just beaming with pride that they did their part in giving Congress over to the Democrats.

I don't think so.

32 posted on 11/11/2006 12:52:05 AM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: onyx

Gee, thanks... here I just started to calm down from the earlier thread LOL

IMHO, any conservative who stayed home is as unpatriotic and rabid as Cindy Sheehan with far less excuse.


33 posted on 11/11/2006 12:58:44 AM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: Tamzee

Agreed. I am disgusted with the lot of them.

They blew our chance for a CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY SCOTUS.



34 posted on 11/11/2006 1:01:17 AM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: Cobra64

Yes, there are... here is just one example, posted on the PA state forum by a regular 3rd party cheerleader and still there...

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Someone ---- anyone ----- want to argue about the power of a 3rd party in an election? Let's look at THIS result:

VA - U.S. Senate
100% Precincts Reporting

Jim Webb
Democrat
1,143,756 (50%)

George Allen (i)
Republican
1,141,030 (49%)


Glenda Parker
Independent Grassroots
25,556 (1%)


I am sure it will be fun watching this one get sorted out?.. 2,309,342 votes tallied ? and a difference of 2,726 votes?. a difference of 0.118%. This is a PERFECT example of where a 3rd party candidate makes all the difference in the world.


35 posted on 11/11/2006 1:05:29 AM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: FairOpinion
"Read the document at the link. It's 85 pages with a lot of detail, providing lots of evidence for their summary statements."

Republican turnout means real republicans turning out and that can only be determined as I pointed out in post 24. I just looked at the doc. All it shows is lumped turnout of people voting R and people voting D. Those numbers include a large percentage of people that are swayed at each election. The real republican turnout is buried in those numbers and can not be extracted from anything they've shown. It requires an extensive analysis which is way beyond the simple they did.

Just because 20K peole vote R, does not mean their are 20K republicans. The number is always much less that and it's buried in the lump sum with the "independent", or switch hit voter.

36 posted on 11/11/2006 1:07:02 AM PST by spunkets
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To: FairOpinion

I voted but wont but I wont jump on those conservatives that didnt. I know a few that stayed home. Common feeling with them is they felt the Republican party stabbed them in the back on various issues.

If the party doesnt get back to it's roots it's gonna be the Beast in 08.


37 posted on 11/11/2006 1:07:55 AM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod

"Common feeling with them is they felt the Republican party stabbed them in the back on various issues. "

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And the Dems will be much more conservative. (/sarc)

I bet they are petting themselves on the back how brilliant it was to put the Dems in charge to destroy the country, that'll fix the Republicans.


38 posted on 11/11/2006 1:10:14 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: onyx
They blew our chance for a CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY SCOTUS.

Arrggghhh, don't remind me.... that would have had a huge conservative impact on countless critical issues for possibly decades.

The next several years might be easier to take if I develop a taste for strong liquor ;-)

39 posted on 11/11/2006 1:10:35 AM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: Tamzee
"This is a PERFECT example of where a 3rd party candidate makes all the difference in the world. "

The 3rd party in your example means nothing. The 3rd party most likely took votes from the winner, but that still means nothing. All your example shows is that the close runner up failed to convince folks he was worth voting for. The turnout was propably around 35%. Had the candidate done a better job, he would have motivated the needed votes out of the 65% that didn't vote. The 3rd party is still insignificant.

40 posted on 11/11/2006 1:12:24 AM PST by spunkets
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To: FairOpinion

I voted against the RATS not for the Republicans. The Republicans in charge now are the most worthless in history. But unfortunately we lost some good people. The silver lining is the few RINOs that were tossed.


41 posted on 11/11/2006 1:14:56 AM PST by rrrod
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To: spunkets

I didn't write that part at the bottom... the crowing, triumphant 3rd party member did.

You argued that folks here weren't bragging... they are.


42 posted on 11/11/2006 1:17:10 AM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: onyx

Goodnight, onyx...

Tomorrow I'll invest in some Jack Daniels for medicinal purposes. I'll let you know if it works ;-)


43 posted on 11/11/2006 1:20:08 AM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: Echo Talon
"Wait a few days, probably more like a few weeks and fec.gov will have ALL the data"

The data is already out there. It's a full time job and would take me an estimated 2 years to complete 50 states. I'm already familiar with WI and the R turnout was the same as it's been previously. There was no change in R BASE turnout. The change was an increase in D votes and success of D propaganda efforts on the switch hitters(I).

44 posted on 11/11/2006 1:21:13 AM PST by spunkets
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! But I'm not dead!

Brevity is the soul of wit. You nailed it with your post. I think we got nailed by the voting dead this election, and there hasn't been even a peep about pursuing a better voter identification system. If this continues, we'll be fighting tooth and nail to get elected dog catcher, forget congress.

45 posted on 11/11/2006 1:24:42 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: spunkets

Sorry, mixed up the posts, am tired... it was others on the thread arguing that nobody was bragging.

Goodnight.


46 posted on 11/11/2006 1:25:15 AM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: Tamzee
"You argued that folks here weren't bragging"

No I didn't. I also know there's Ds, Is and others here. Bragging by those folks doesn't interest me, because the real cause in the turnover of the house is not a change in base votes, it's a failure to attract and motivate for votes. I can also say that it's not, because the candidates, or incumbents were not conservative enough. Ignoring various regional issues, the main reason for the rat win is an unpopular war and missteps by some conservative candidates and incumbents.

47 posted on 11/11/2006 1:32:54 AM PST by spunkets
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To: Tamzee

OK, I was confused about that. Good night.


48 posted on 11/11/2006 1:34:51 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

Turnout looked pretty low across the board didn't it? W got over 62,000,000 votes himself in 2004...


49 posted on 11/11/2006 1:35:15 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: spunkets
The 3rd party in your example means nothing. The 3rd party most likely took votes from the winner, but that still means nothing. All your example shows is that the close runner up failed to convince folks he was worth voting for. The turnout was propably around 35%. Had the candidate done a better job, he would have motivated the needed votes out of the 65% that didn't vote. The 3rd party is still insignificant.


50 posted on 11/11/2006 1:40:10 AM PST by Echo Talon
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