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Church supports baby euthanasia
The UK Times ^ | Sunday 12 November 2006 | Peter Zimonjic

Posted on 11/11/2006 6:28:10 PM PST by silverleaf

Church Supports Baby Euthanasia

THE Church of England has joined one of Britain’s royal medical colleges in calling for legal euthanasia of seriously disabled newborn babies. Church leaders want doctors to be given the right to withhold treatment from seriously disabled newborn babies in exceptional circumstances.

Their call, overriding the presumption that life should be preserved at any cost, follows that of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecology, revealed in The Sunday Times last week.

The church’s position was laid out in a submission to an independent inquiry, due to publish its report this week, into the ethical concerns surrounding the treatment of severely premature babies.

In the submission Tom Butler, Bishop of Southwark, states: “It may in some circumstances be right to choose to withhold or withdraw treatment, knowing it will possibly, probably, or even certainly result in death.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2450134,00.html

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: anglican; christianity; churchofengland; cultureofdeath; episcopals; ethics; eurocompassion; euthanasia; infanticide; mammon; moralabsolutes; postnatalabortions; prolife
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The slope gets slippier and slippier. When these men of God meet God, I suppose they will have an interesting time explaining decisions like this.
1 posted on 11/11/2006 6:28:11 PM PST by silverleaf
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To: silverleaf

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2450134,00.html


2 posted on 11/11/2006 6:28:24 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

...no wonder Islam is seeing such success in England.


3 posted on 11/11/2006 6:31:14 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: sionnsar

ping for tomorrow's list ping


4 posted on 11/11/2006 6:31:29 PM PST by sionnsar (?trad-anglican.faithweb.com?|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: silverleaf

The greatest and saddest irony. God made that life with a plan for it that you men decide to extinguish.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 6:32:31 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: silverleaf

The Anglican leaders who made this decision are going straight to Hell, do not pass go...!


6 posted on 11/11/2006 6:32:41 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: silverleaf

Any church that advocates this is no longer a church of God.


7 posted on 11/11/2006 6:33:09 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: silverleaf

I guess some humans are more human than others... and those others should be killed so that we don't have to suffer by caring for them, or seeing them "suffer" from their disability. This is ethics??????????


8 posted on 11/11/2006 6:34:01 PM PST by PatrickF4
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To: silverleaf
The Episcopal deal is this: They say,"Well in such and such a dreadfully diifcult case it might be okay to so such and siuch a thing, therefore we will not speak against the thing. THEN the thing becomes licit, as far as the people in the pews are concerned, in any case. So the Episcopal Church says, we can see some cases where abortion might be okay, but it would always be sad. So the conservatives are mollified and the liberals say the church is pro-choise. Then, within a few years it is entirely pro-choice. Where orthodoxy is optional it is soon proscribed.

YMMV, but that's how it looked when I was a priest.

9 posted on 11/11/2006 6:38:21 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: silverleaf

I read this article a couple of times, and I'm puzzled what the Times means by "Church of England." The article says that "Tom Butler, Bishop of Southwark" made a submission to the commission. It does not say who the Bishop is speaking for--himself, his colleagues? Nothing is said about a meeting of the bishops, and certainly not a formal Westminster Assembly.

Even if the Archbishop of Canterbury speaks out on some matter, it is not necessarily official Anglican doctrine, although he has more authority than the other bishops.

Not that the Anglican Church isn't riddled with heresy on all sorts of issues. They very easily could come out in favor of baby killing, as well as abortion. But it's possible that this article misinterprets the meaning of the Bishop of Southwerk's submission. Maybe he's just a flaky bishop.


10 posted on 11/11/2006 6:45:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: silverleaf

This cannot be true. Tell me it ain't real. It's some kind of sick joke right?


11 posted on 11/11/2006 6:46:15 PM PST by eleni121 (sometimes you have to cut off the limb to save the body)
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To: silverleaf

Slippery slope? Sadly, I think we are already at the bottom in the pit.


12 posted on 11/11/2006 6:52:44 PM PST by MarilynBr
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To: silverleaf
If the Brits had half a brain, they would be on their knees in Rome, begging the Pope to take them back.

The Anglican/Episcopal church is a joke.
13 posted on 11/11/2006 6:58:11 PM PST by BW2221
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To: silverleaf

"The slope gets slippier and slippier"

Indeed it does. These "men of God" want to PLAY God.

Sure they should know better, but that they don't speaks volumes about what the CoE has become, along with their fellow hedonists in the Episcopal church in America.


14 posted on 11/11/2006 7:00:29 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: silverleaf

This is no religion at all, if they support infanticide.

If this is there position, they might as well board up their churches , shut off the lights and go home. They're useless to everyone now.


15 posted on 11/11/2006 7:01:33 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: silverleaf

Coming soon to a representative republic near you.


16 posted on 11/11/2006 7:04:20 PM PST by Mrs. P (I am most seriously displeased. - Lady Catherine de Bourg)
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To: Cicero
"Maybe he's just a flaky bishop."

And there certainly is no shortage of those.
17 posted on 11/11/2006 7:05:59 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: silverleaf

The Church of England and the Episcopals: Just what Jesus had in mind. /sarc


18 posted on 11/11/2006 7:10:01 PM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: silverleaf
The story states that The church is "calling for legal euthanasia of seriously disabled newborn babies"

But the bishop says:

"It may in some circumstances be right to choose to withhold or withdraw treatment, knowing it will possibly, probably, or even certainly result in death"

Now to me it seems that the newspaper has misstated what the bishop said. It is one thing to administer morphine to deliberately kill a person--Euthanasia--it is another to stop treatment when it is obvious that the treatment will not save a life.

While it is clear where the doctors stand, they do not provide enough information to determine whether the bishop is saying we should withhold treatment only in the case of a terminally ill child, or that handicapped children who might otherwise live also should not be treated. I have a hard time trusting newspapers. It doesn't sound like he is promoting euthanasia--actively killing a sick person.
19 posted on 11/11/2006 7:11:39 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: silverleaf

So those pagans were right after all! Just leave those unwanted, malformed babies out on a rock somewhere to die.

But we do it so nicely now... in private, not in a public place...efficiently, neatly. We are SO advanced! /s


20 posted on 11/11/2006 7:13:23 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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