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Two US Representatives Push GOP's Leach As Envoy To UN
Associated Press (excerpt) ^ | November 14, 2006

Posted on 11/14/2006 2:34:06 PM PST by HAL9000

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To: Jacquerie
"If Bolton's nomination does not make it to the Senate floor I hope President Bush just leaves the post vacant. Let the rats explain why we do not have an ambassador at the UN.

BRAVO.

I've been thinking this all along (even before the Dims took control).

41 posted on 11/14/2006 4:41:48 PM PST by daler (The best things in life...aren't "things.")
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To: daler

BTW, I still favor Ann Coulter as the perfect choice.


42 posted on 11/14/2006 4:42:52 PM PST by daler (The best things in life...aren't "things.")
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To: monkeywrench

Are you certain we have paid ZERO to the UN--check again.


43 posted on 11/14/2006 4:48:34 PM PST by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: HAL9000

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say it ain't so, George!!!!!!!!!

Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.


44 posted on 11/14/2006 4:53:50 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: HAL9000

Leach has been my congressman for nearly all of the 30 years he's been in the House.

The one thing I'll ALWAYS remember him for is when, after the 2000 election debacle, he—along with the Hildabeast—called for the ELIMINATION OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

That's right, folks. A congressman FROM IOWA said there should be no Electoral College.

It was then that I knew any additional talk of his alleged superior intellect would be utterly ridiculous.


45 posted on 11/14/2006 6:45:32 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
The one thing I'll ALWAYS remember him for is when, after the 2000 election debacle, he—along with the Hildabeast—called for the ELIMINATION OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

Any sensible person would want to eliminate the Electoral College. It makes Presidential votes, like mine in MD, worthless. It's a wretched backwards and archaic system and I will vote for anyone advocating getting rid of it and letting the American people actually live in a democracy.

46 posted on 11/14/2006 7:04:40 PM PST by youthgonewild
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To: Jacquerie

You bring up an interesting point. We know FBI is still loaded with CLintonistas, what about IRS? Wonder if they keep sending her info as she asks for it?


47 posted on 11/14/2006 7:09:12 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: youthgonewild

LOL.

I used to think there was a time when I was young and arrogant and knew everything. Now, I know I was wrong to think so.

Thanks for setting me straight.


48 posted on 11/14/2006 9:44:02 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: youthgonewild

Furthermore, it's a real shame you weren't around for the founding fathers to benefit from your wisdom. What were they thinking?!

/sarc


49 posted on 11/15/2006 9:02:36 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer

Nice to see you learned to debate from the Al Sharpton Ad Hominem Attack School. Were you a graduate or did you learn to dodge arguments by close observation and emulation?


50 posted on 11/15/2006 9:54:34 AM PST by youthgonewild
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To: youthgonewild
Were you a graduate or did you learn to dodge arguments by close observation and emulation?

Oh, my bad! I failed to realize "Any sensible person would want to eliminate the Electoral College" was intended to be an argument. It sounded to me like you were saying there's no sensible reason for having the Electoral College. If that's how you feel, no "sensible person" would waste his time arguing with you.

Now that I know it was an argument, I suppose I should respond in kind with something like, "Anyone who doesn't appreciate the reasons for having the Electoral College is either ignorant or stupid." (Of course, if I were to truly respond in kind, I would leave out the 'ignorant' option.)

Or, instead, I could just point out that "democracy" is something the Founding Fathers absolutely did not want for this nation.

But, since you likely knew that already and were stating your preference that they would have founded a democracy, I'll take a chance that maybe you'll find something new in the 20-page document, The Electoral College ^. It starts out by saying, "In order to appreciate the reasons for the Electoral College, it is essential to understand its historical context and the problem that the Founding Fathers were trying to solve."

Its closing paragraph says, "The fact that the Electoral College was originally designed to solve one set of problems but today serves to solve an entirely different set of problems is a tribute to the genius of the Founding Fathers and to the durability of the American federal system."

51 posted on 11/15/2006 2:08:48 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer
I read the linked article, and it is blatant propaganda for our flawed 2 party system.
"In this process of assimilation, third party movements are obliged to compromise their more radical views if they hope to attain any of their more generally acceptable objectives. Thus we end up with two large, pragmatic political parties which tend to the center of public opinion rather than dozens of smaller political parties catering to divergent and sometimes extremist views."

This man's reasons for keeping it are the same reasons I have for abolishing it, it's unfair, perpetually keeps 2 parties and subverts the will of the people. Gore may have won the popular vote in 2000 and the electoral college saved Bush's bacon, but it is unwise to keep a flawed system because it favored us in a past temporary circumstance.

52 posted on 11/15/2006 9:23:42 PM PST by youthgonewild
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To: HAL9000; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; bitt; dixiechick2000
If the president senses John Bolton cannot be confirmed, then he must recess appoint . . . Mark Levin.

Bolton is a Doberman, Leach is a doormat. Mark Levin would be a compromise candidate, a leg trap.

53 posted on 11/15/2006 10:09:29 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: youthgonewild; potlatch; PhilDragoo


Move to Germany, France, Italy, Mexico - the electoral college is here to stay

You are not going to change our "flawed system" or be happy with it - you and Hillary both hate the electoral college


54 posted on 11/15/2006 10:15:45 PM PST by devolve ( _classic_moments_in_Kohn_jobs_)
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55 posted on 11/15/2006 10:16:17 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: PhilDragoo; potlatch; holdonnow


Mark Levin bump!


56 posted on 11/15/2006 10:17:11 PM PST by devolve ( _classic_moments_in_Kohn_jobs_)
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To: devolve

Big Bump!!


57 posted on 11/15/2006 10:18:04 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch


URL please

Have I got a .wav for Bolton!


58 posted on 11/15/2006 10:19:56 PM PST by devolve ( _classic_moments_in_Kohn_jobs_)
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To: Buck W.

Ya beat me to it! It would look great on his resume for future office and I would love watching the Dems try to figure out how to call him names without calling him names....


59 posted on 11/15/2006 10:20:23 PM PST by Uriah_lost (We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
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To: PhilDragoo

Mark Levin is smarter than Einstein on legal matters - but he ain't no diplomat.


60 posted on 11/15/2006 10:53:14 PM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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