NO TO RUDI

Nealz Nuze ^ | 11/15/06 | Neal Boortz

[EQAndyBuzz]

"You have it exactly backward. "

Who put those people on the court? The people that are trying to impose their leftwing social agenda on us.

[Brilliant]

Well, let me ask you this... Who would you prefer: A candidate who says he supports abortion, but who would nevertheless appoint conservative Supreme Court nominees who might overturn Roe (Giuliani), or a candidate who says he is a right to lifer, but who nevertheless lead the McCain Insurrection in an effort to broker a compromise that would lead to moderate "consensus building" Supreme Court nominees (McCain)?

Actions speak louder than words.

[cajungirl]

It is not time to vote yet so you are safe.

Imagine Rudi versus Hillary. That may move you.

I would vote for the devil over Hillary.

[epow]

In # 21 you said, "We want less government yet we are trying to impose our social agenda on the courts."

Then in #101 you said "Who put those people on the court? The people that are trying to impose their leftwing social agenda on us."

The "we" of # 21 are not the same group as "The people" in # 191.

The "we" of #21, who I assume are conservatives, would put only conservative originalist judges and Justices on the courts if we had our way. "The people", who I assume are liberals, have put only liberal activist judges and Justices on the courts.

If putting only original intent jurists on the courts who will correctly interpret the intent of the authors constitutes imposing an agenda, then yes, I want to impose an agenda.

[McGavin999]

I've got an idea! How about we let these guys run and tell us what they are runnning on before we start attacking them!

[Old_Mil]

Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, Rudy said: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett, Page 459

---Rudy Giuliani Endorses Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo October 1994: "From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ˜Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City book by Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

--Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo: "Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state." "But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed." Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement, October 25, 1994

--"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party." Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party, CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

--On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights: "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, "Mayor Giuliani said yesterday. "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said. The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. "I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country." New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

--On Gay-Rights/Gay Rights Bill: Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately. "I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action." ".......It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment." New York Post, June 5, 1993

--Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office. Ray Kerrison New York Post, June 30, 1993

--Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal." quoting Ray Kerrison New York Post, July 7, 1989

--On Gay Domestic Partnership: "I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership," said Rudy Giuliani on Informed Sources New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

--On Abortion: Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing. New York Times, June 18, 1993.

--Rudy Guiliani on abortion: "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

--"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade." Rudy Giuliani, New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

--As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal. New York Times, August 4, 1989

--On Partial Birth Abortion: Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure. New York Times, January 7, 1998

--On School Choice: "He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

--On Taxes: [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989

[Old_Mil]

Regardless of how he runs, now you know how he will govern.

[McGavin999]

Ah, so I'm supposed to listen to what someone else says and let them make up my mind for me. I see how that works. No thanks.

[Old_Mil]

Ah, so I'm supposed to listen to what someone else says and let them make up my mind for me. I see how that works. No thanks.

Not at all. Listen to the candidate himself:

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."

Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani

Wayne Barrett.

[McGavin999]

Hmmm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was BEFORE 9-11

[Old_Mil]

So you found Clinton's policies before 9/11 to be acceptable? You've found Rudy's defense of the Clinton's saying that their mistakes in governance did not contribute to Islamic terrorism to be accurate? Apparently so.

[McGavin999]

I found Rudy's defense of America better than just about anybody other than Bush. I thought the fact that he tossed Arafat out was great and the fact that he handed Talweek back his $10 million check was stronger and tougher than anything I've ever seen. I thought the fact that he cleaned up that cesspool that was New York was little short of a miracle.

As to Clinton's policies, how would you know, he didn't have any. Clinton just coasted along on whatever was popular at the time.

[Antoninus]

Rudy suckz as does Bortz.

[Antoninus]

America needs a Patton in the White House, not a Falwell.

Last time I checked, Patton never dressed up like Marilyn Monroe.

[epow]

A candidate who says he supports abortion, but who would nevertheless appoint conservative Supreme Court nominees who might overturn Roe (Giuliani),

First of all, how do we know Rudi would appoint conservative SC nominees who might overturn Roe? His record in NYC gives no indication that he would.

Second, I don't believe I said that I would prefer McCain over Rudi. I don't know what he would do regarding judicial appointments. But his record of hatching out the unconstitutional CFR abomination and for supporting and promoting unconstitutional anti-2nd Amendment state laws in several states following the Columbine tragedy certainly doesn't suggest a strong commitment to compliance with the intent of the Constitution's authors.

[185JHP]

BTTT

[ElPatriota]

I would love to have Rudy in charge of Homeland Security, instead of that dork Chertoff. Rudy would be great for a job of huge responsibility, but not for president. That would send the wrong message. Sorry Rudy buddy :)

[EQAndyBuzz]

I look at it this way.

The representatives we elect place judges on the court. Let's assume that interpreting the constitution is the true goal since that is what this country was founded on, judges that overstep their bounds and make law instead of interpreting it are activists.

Doesn't this work both ways? Leftwing politicians put judges on the court who share their ideology. We elect those pols. So in effect, If you voted for Clinton(I know you didn't)you effectively voted to put Ginsburg on the court. Hence the people put an activist on the court.

My point is, why do we continue to let the left shape the argument that "originalist" means right wing?

[ryan71]

300 Million Americans and not ONE Conservative who can lead?

Damned shame!

[SlowBoat407]

How could any guy say No to Rudi?