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To: 300magnum

"While serving in that post, Giuliani saw his private life become a regular subject of media scrutiny, especially in 2000, when he announced at a press conference that he was seeking a separation from his second wife without first telling her of his decision.

"Despite Giuliani's charm and his obvious leadership abilities, as far as social and cultural issues are concerned, not only his personal life but his public views make him unacceptable," Parro said."

Hmmm, whatever happened to "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" Oh, I forgot; that pearl of Christian wisdom only applies to people the perpetually-panty-bunched actually like.

My bad, thinking Jesus meant for that to be applied across the board. (/sarc).


6 posted on 11/15/2006 7:34:32 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Wombat101

yeah...that's another issue...for conservatives.

Giuliani hasn't exactly proven his character in his personal life. Which leaves open speculation about his character politically.


9 posted on 11/15/2006 7:37:28 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Wombat101

His personal life is very much a legitimate objection to his attaining the presidency. It illustrates his character It poses questions as to his steadiness and consistency of loyalty. I love Newt Gingrich but he has some of that same baggage and it points to questions about judgment which is a fairly important quality in a president, wouldn't you say? It was President BJ for whom we were to ignore Character and morals because of his sterling qualities. His biggest failing was precisely judgment.


14 posted on 11/15/2006 7:40:14 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Wombat101

His personal life is very much a legitimate objection to his attaining the presidency. It illustrates his character It poses questions as to his steadiness and consistency of loyalty. I love Newt Gingrich but he has some of that same baggage and it points to questions about judgment which is a fairly important quality in a president, wouldn't you say? It was President BJ for whom we were to ignore Character and Morals because of his sterling qualities. His biggest failing was precisely judgment.


16 posted on 11/15/2006 7:40:44 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Wombat101
Oh, I forgot; that pearl of Christian wisdom only applies to people the perpetually-panty-bunched actually like.

I can forgive the man for his mistakes; we've all made them. However, opposing our gun rights and supporting abortion on demand aren't mistakes; they're enemy action. As such, I won't be voting for him.
21 posted on 11/15/2006 7:42:02 AM PST by JamesP81 (Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
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To: Wombat101
Well when Rudy acknowledges the 'sin' then forgiveness is what follows.

Some people demand the forgiveness without ever acknowledging that repentance is the primary requirement.
23 posted on 11/15/2006 7:43:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Wombat101

Who's throwing stones?

Perhaps this is about discernment and not about condemning a person.

Why are you quoting Jesus if you have such distain for His followers (and therefore for Him)?


56 posted on 11/15/2006 7:58:24 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Wombat101

"Hmmm, whatever happened to "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" "

That's why we should have left Hitler alone.
Too farfetched, how about, that's why Foley should have been left alone.

God doesn't say we can't make moral decisions, only that we aren't the ones deciding who gets by the Pearly gates.


90 posted on 11/15/2006 8:09:49 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Wombat101

Dear Wombat101,

"Hmmm, whatever happened to 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?'"

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that we kill Mr. Giuliani by stoning him.

There's a difference between showing mercy to egregious sinners and electing them to the highest office in the land.

Those who follow Jesus are obligated to always forgive repentant sinners, no matter how terrible the sin, and to offer forgiveness to the unrepentant, in the hope of inspiring repentance. Jesus' followers aren't obligated to vote for them for President of the United States.


sitetest


92 posted on 11/15/2006 8:10:01 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Wombat101

Gosh, it must have been some other site, but I could have sworn it was here, that when Clinton was having an affair in the White House people kept saying “character matters”. But I don’t see those posts about Rudy having an affair in Gracie Mansion, or going on television to tell his wife he was divorcing her. Maybe character only matters if it is a Democrat, or maybe Republicans are held to a lower standard.


97 posted on 11/15/2006 8:12:39 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Wombat101
Hmmm, whatever happened to "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" Oh, I forgot; that pearl of Christian wisdom only applies to people the perpetually-panty-bunched actually like.

You must be utterly daft if you think that command applies in this situation. By that reasoning we might as well all be democrats. Sure, they've screwed up, but who are we to judge? Why not Pelosi for pres. in 08? We can't judge her. Good grief. It saddens me to see someone make such a stupid comment as yours.
100 posted on 11/15/2006 8:14:43 AM PST by newguy357
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To: Wombat101
Hmmm, whatever happened to "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?"

I must've missed the place where someone, anyone, was suggesting he be put to death.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, and, based on your post #6, your knowledge of Christianity and the Bible appear to fall in that category.

146 posted on 11/15/2006 9:01:24 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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