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I did not say he was the savior of the GOP. I personally think he would make a great president. I don't care if he is he has Liberal tendencies. What I do know is that all in all he has been a Loyal Republican and has been a strong fiscal conservative and has the right stands on the GWOT so to me he is among my favorite contenders. He is not the only guy I am looking at.

1. Giuliani
2. Romney
3. Sanford

Is where my list stands at this moment.

"If Rudy didn't support big government, he would have made an EFFORT to slash the budget."

You would have to apply that standard to almost every Republican in elected office in the past 10 years then.

"Add that $4.5 billion deficit "

You mean the deficit after the 9/11 attacks and hard recession? "From what I've read crime began dropping under the Dinkens admin" Yeah they did abit, then they started to drop like a rock under Rudy. Rudy took a city that would make Detroit look like Vermont crime and quality of life wise and turned it into America's Shining Jewel again.

>>>>>You would have to apply that standard to almost every Republican in elected office in the past 10 years then.

Reagan didn't have control of the House, that means he didn't have control of the purse strings. Yet Reagan was able to reduce welfare state expenditures by some 4% a year over his eight years in office. Reagan then applied those savings to his military buildup. Newt came along with his Contract With America and spending was reduced to its lowest levels in 25 years. And Newt was able to balance the budget in the process and we had a surplus for three years.

When Rudy reduced the welfare rolls, he should have taken those savings and reduced the budget or the debt. When Rudy left office, his admin projected a $2.0 billion deficit. That exploded to $4.5 billion. What part of that was due to 9-11, I don't know. Good leadership makes the right adjustments. Crime dropped under Rudy, and went down even further under Mike Bloomberg. That doesn't mean I'm willing to vote for Mayor Mike for Prez.

You know what I think. I think you're a closet liberal.

Good Lord, Son, my damned cat is older than you are, of course you don't care if "he has liberal tendencies".
This RINO takeover movement is going to wreck the GOP, things are already gone too far to the left. Rudy did not become a Republican because of strong personal convictions, he switched as a political expedient. All he changed is the letter after his name. He could, and would, switch back tomorrow, for the same reason, and think nothing of it.